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Beckham?

Well, there is only one English player alive today who possesses the vision and skill to execute the kind of passes he made tonight.
Difficult to select a Man Of The Match but Beckham's input was as good as anyone's.
On a different note, Crouch is the only striker I know who beats 5 men whilst running back towards his own goal.

Beckham was excellent again.  That ball he put in for Crouch was amazing.

agreed beckham was good tonight and proved why he should never have been tossed to one side when mclaren took over.

just hope he continues impressing and doesnt drop into the comfort zone now he realises hes needed.

great goal from joe cole fantastic technique excellently executed deserves more credit for it and i think if the likes of beckham had scored it everyone would of been raving about it.

dont get the critisism of crouch. yes hes not pretty to watch but he offers us something different, he scored one with a great header and as good a quality of ball it was from beckham he still took the header well. he also played a major part in the bulid up for coles goal.

cant see many changes for the isreal game, rooney in for the suspended crouch, ferdinand i for king and hopefully a right back. bridge done well enough at left back but may be replaced by ashley cole.

all just my opinions guy feel free to laugh at any of them i wont accuse you of flaming im not that sensitive  ;nana; ;nana;

I wouldn't be that rude.

and i wouldn't be that sensitive

you say sensitive like its a fault. compared to rudeness, it's a cross I'm happy to bare

For me Beckham played very well but if any other player had his injury he wouldn't have stayed on the pitch. Same as the delay before taking him off against Portugal at the last WC. Any other player would have been hooked.

Joe Cole's goal was excellent and Lampard played ok for me.

King gets better every time I see him. Robinson scares the bejeezus out of me.

agree with you regards robinson. dont think hes improved in the last 2 years in fact i think hes gone backwards.

who else is there thats the problem

If only Cech was English!

Or should I say Peter Chester.

 rotflmfao peter chester... if only!

i thought foster was looking good whilst on loan but now read that he has a serious injury so looks like its robbo for the foreseeable future

surely after the season he's had James should be in goal?..

yes agree boldie but hes not the long term solution we need

Carson looked good at Charlton but Benitez loves Pepe so I doubt he'll get a game at Anfield unfortunately.

Please not James again. If ever there was a guy who couldn't produce for country after great club spells it was James. How many high profile blunders can one guy make?

                       green

neville    ferdinand     terry     cole


beckam     gerard      hargreaves     cole

 
               rooney     owen

robinson
woodgate
carragher
lampard
parker
bent
dyer
carrick
johnson


agree / disagree

                           Rooney
Rooney     Rooney             Rooney     Rooney
Rooney     Rooney             Rooney     Rooney
         Rooney                           Rooney


Downing

It wasn't really criticism, just a touch of sarcasm.
I don't rate Crouch as an International but he has scored goals so fair play to him. I do think he's a bit one-dimensional though and spends too much of the game with his back to goal. Plus, we play too many long balls up to him when he's in the team, but I guess that's not his fault.
There is a distinct lack of English world-class strikers at the moment but the next 17-year-old wonderkid will be along soon enough.
Theo?

You need to watch Crouch week-in, week-out.  There's far more to his game than holding the ball up and making nice lay-offs - but he does this better than most.

His work-rate is phenomenal - and he runs further than any other Liverpool player in a game (I'd guess the same would be true for England as well, but I haven't seen those stats).  He can score - with his head, or either foot.  He has the height to be used as an outlet, so is very useful in the team when you need to hold on to a lead.  He has great skill and control with the ball at his feet, and is a right pain in the arse for defenders to mark. 

He just looks a little unorthodox.  As a player, he is very, very under-rated.


That was a party political party on behalf of the Peter Crouch Appreciation Party.

As you might guess from my previous post, I'd include Crouch in the squad.

Nice post (Peter Crouch's Dad).
He may well run further than any other Liverpool player, but a percentage of it is back towards his own goal.
He scores a variety of goals, I'll give you that.
He is used as an outlet far too often because of his height.
Useful when holding on to a lead.... you sound like Eriksson....
His control is not of International standard.
Defenders are getting wise to him and he gives away too many free kicks because of this.
That said, he is worthy of his place due to lack of anything better.

;D


No, the intelligent running off the ball that he does is excellent.  He also harries and pressurises the opposition defence relentlessly.  If he's playing with his back to goal, that's because the ball has come to him too straight from too deep.  Hardly his fault.  He works best around the edge of the area, and getting into the area to crosses from wide. 


Top scorer for Liverpool and England in the past 12 months.  Can't be all that bad.  The game against Arsenal showed what he can do with the right service.  As well as all the other stuff he does, surely his goals should have something to do with him being considered?


Yes, again though, hardly his fault.


..or Benitez or Maureen.  We could have done with him a few times in the past when we were ahead against decent opposition and couldn't retain the ball for any decent period.  If you can retain a lead, you can then also look to extend it.  If you can't hold on to a lead when the other team are pressing, you lose.  Look at the games we've gone out with in the last two World Cups.


Disagree 100%. 


He wins a fair few too.  His goal record would suggest that defenders are still very much struggling with him.  I used to hear the same argument about Owen as well.  A 'one-trick' pony.  Still seems to work (when he's not broken).


He's good enough, therefore should be included.  The game against Portugal in the World Cup.  It would have been very different if we'd had Crouch and Rooney on up front.  Rooney wouldn't have been so frustrated, and we'd have been able to work the ball out and retain it far more effectively.  Alas, the manager had different ideas...

I was never Crouch's biggest fan but must admit since seeing him play a lot at Liverpool he has won me over. He's never going to be anyone's number 1 striker but he's nothing short of excellent at what he can do. He's so much more than people think he is.

Saw him play live a few times before we signed him and saw what he could do.  In the Albert after a match we had a discussion about him and if we'd like to see him at Anfield.  The split was 50/50, but now everyone in that group is impressed with him.

He needs a pacy, more orthodox striker to play alongside him - someone like Henry would do very nicely ;D (no chance of that though unfortunately).

I am the only one who sat there cringing when estonia played rather easily through our midfield and got some good chances but didn't have the ability to finish?
 If it was against a proper team i guarantee we would have been lucky to win even if we had scored 3 goals.

No - I'm not convinced by this "we've turned the corner" stuff either TBH. The real test will come against real opposition where I don't believe you can play without a holding midfielder and where Beckham will really be put to the test.

We did reasonably well against very poor opposition.  An improvement from the Andorra game for sure.

Can't really discover a lot - "you can only beat what's in front of you" and other such clichés. It'll be very interesting to see how we play against a team ranked in the top 100.

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