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If someone would offer you 1 million pounds for your pet, and s/he would state that part of the deal is that you will never ever to have another pet, would you take the money?

Nips to pet shop....

Have you put Flushy up on Ebay?

I'll take £10K. deal?

hmmmm...../ how long do i get to decide...that's a whole lot of buy ins..

Flushy or a pet?

whatever you want :)

Money please :) I can replace my pets easily enough.

I've had 2 cats in my life. One called Snoopy (lol!), and another called O'malley. They both got run over by cars and I was devastated (I was only a kid at the time). Still, I wouldn't have sold them then (or now, if they were still around) for £1million. The proviso about not being alowed another pet again would be irrelevant.

A pet's a member of the familly, I couldn't sell one, even if I could replace it. (not I don't count reptiles, hamsters, gerbils, canaries etc as pets - more living wallpaper - cats, dogs, rats, parrots etc - they are pets).

You big soppy thing.

I read a story once about Sly Stallone.  When he was a struggling actor, he sold his dog .  When he got his big break with Rocky, he waited for the guy who had bought his dog and gave him about $10,000 to buy his dog back.  I would never sell my dog regardless of the money.  Money is only money,   a dog is a friend.

Here it is told by an annoying American called Tony Robbins

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywuse55qU2A

Goodbye Fluffy.

(http://img.waffleimages.com/a87bf2a97f711eab195bf1998e913d3c337a8198/offmylawn%20kittah.jpg)

I love my cat!

those cats get everywhere!

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lol - my thoughts exactly.

I would not sell or swap my cat, Angell, for any money or anyone. Tantrum excepted, of course. I've yet to seek Angell's view on Ta, but I'm sure he'll be cool with it.

If you discovered Tantrum was allergic to cats, or she has a completely and rational dislike of cats - what would you do?

oooh good question  ;popcorn;

flibbertygibbert

50 quid would do me if i was skint

How could she possibly have a "rational dislike for cats"? Cats are lovely.

Everyone is tyrying to get between us with problems, but we are like two cooey-wooey things which are close to each other.

I love cats.....

If you keep taking them viagera Tony there will only be one thing standing between the two of you...and it won't be a blonde.

How about if someone said, its your pet or your private parts, you give your pet over or you will never have sex again........

Ship me the mill

Since the time I moved out of my mums and into the big world, I never had a pet and thought I never would. Now I have my mum's collie, Sammie:) There is no way I take money for her, even a million. I wouldnt even call her a pet. She's more of a companion and I know she would never grunt at me again if I even thought aout selling her:( It just seems all wrong to me...................................................

I'd consider selling anything or anyone for a million.  But definately not my pup.  He's the most gorgeous, adorable and loyaly dog in the world.

It would be funny to see you struggle with your principles if someone was standing next to you with a million in cash on show.... SELL SELL SELL !!!

For many people, the idea of selling an animal is just the same as someone selling their child.  Nobody would sell their child,  so why would a person sell an animal they love?   

Because it's an animal!

You care for an animal the same way you do for a person.  You feed them, provide shelter for them,  take them to the vet if they are sick,  chat to them,  play games with them.   Why would you sell a friend like that?    I would rather be poor than sell my friend.

 :goodpost: ;iagree;

A child and a pet is very different.  A pet is not going to help ensure the survival of your genes - whereas your child carries 50% of your genetic make-up and its survival is very important to you.

A pet is there for companionship. 

I have heard of parents doing this in both africa and india. if you have 5 children who are starving cos you can't afford to feed them, perhaps selling one of them to feed the other 4 is the only thing they can do.

Absolutely.  The survival of your genes is what is important (and central to your existence), and although it appears cruel the same thing is seen in nature all the time.  The weakest, smallest, or least-likely to survive (the runt of the litter essentially) is often 'discarded' to ensure the rest of the brood survive.  As humans who can empathise more with others of the species it's far harder to rationalise - and it's very sad that it still has to happen in this day and age.

As humans we have progressed to the stage where we are intelligent enough to realise that it wont really matter very much if our individual genes are not carried forward and can be secure in the knowledge that enough of our peers will procreate to ensure survival of the species.

I disagree with the part about caring for an animal the same as a person but your point is well made. a dog is a friend and you dont sell out on your friends.

I dont think there are many things i wouldnt do for £1Million

More and more people in modern society choose not to have Kids.  I know I will probably never have Kids,  I am 100% straight but I just can't see myself having Kids or getting married.  For people like me, career orientated individuals, ill people or for gay people, they won't have Kids,  an animal can almost be like a child for some of these people. 

My Dads next door neighbour used to be a right twat and he hated animals. He wasn't good to animals and we have had words about it on more than one occasion.  After he got married, for one reason or another him and his wife couldn't  have Kids of their own. I have heard a few stories about this from a mutual friend, but I won't go into those on here.  Anyway his wife talked him around to getting a dog.  Now he is a much nicer guy and instead of being a hooligan, he is a great dad to the dog.

Sark ... someone says you must give up your child or your pet otherwise the world will end in 5 minutes ... only you can be a hero and save the world from oblivion .... would it be a hard choice ?


no need to answer... its a hypothetical question, but to try and convince anyone that a pet is like a child is beyond my comprehension.

 

I guess we will have to agree to disagree  :D .   Derren Brown wouldn't even be able to  change my mind on this one, even with all his scary Jedi mind powers

Survival of the species is not the role of the individual.  Survival of an individual's descendants is of far more importance. 

With the amount of suffering inflicted on other humans in the world I'd also dispute how far civilisation has progressed.  War, poverty, famine could all be addressed if humans were concerned with the survival of all fellow humans (in order to perpetuate the species).  Our altruism doesn't quite reach that far.

Interesting thread though.

if i sold my dog jasper i would loose something from the heart of my daughter lily.i got jasper when he was 12 weeks old and lily was 10 months.they play together,sleep together and look after one another.its hard to imagine one without the other.
no money could take the place of their relationship.
FRAN

If an individual has descendants, it is important (to the individual) that they survive.

It is not important for any individual to have descendants in the first place.

Lovely post! 

Due to our intelligence, we can create different purposes for our lives - and I agree that they are not always concerned with perpetuating our bloodline.  However, this is deviating from why we were born - which is fundamentally as mechanisms to carry and replicate our genes.

Funnily enough, our altruism in form of the welfare state and the many looking after those who are less able to care for themselves is actually a huge threat to the ongoing survival of our species.  Nature of course, will always move towards a solution that brings about an equilibrium (disease, famine, etc.) - although this is never stable as nature abhors a status quo (or was it Status Quo?).

Precisely.

We're not going to die out because we feed the poor now, instead of allowing them to starve. But certainly evolutionary pressures are much changed now from what they were in the past, to the point that you could argue that human evolution as we know it will 'stop'.


The first part is kind of correct - things tend to find their own level in relation to each other when it comes to populations of different species which eat each other, for instance. This is because any imbalance will provide an opportunity for some creature to evolve to exploit the imbalance. Once they've done that, the imbalance isn't there any more. The status quo doesn't tend to last simply because there are so many millions of different factors, all non-linearly related to each other, that they are in a constant state of flux, so there really isn't a status quo at a deep level. At some point, something will 'flip' and instigate a big change.

I think this thread is more about how important people think money is, rather than how important people think pets are.

Some darn good posts though.

Yes but how on earth we went from pets to the kids? >:?

The question is simple - 1 million for your pet without the option of having another pet? how kids come into this discussion is mind blowing. ;D 

For a million, not only could you have my dog, but i would personally deliver it to Korea for you at no extra charge !!!

Hi Tantrum, I've brought you a cat. Would you like to go out with me? One sneeze for yes, two sneezes if you want to go straight to the bedroom.

what does 3 sneezes mean?

It means she'll probably pester you the next day with phonecalls etc. Bit too keen.

Best to leave well alone (or go to her place and leave a fake number.)

I would not Angell for any sum, but then I don't have a wish or need for a million quid, my life is just fine as is, & 1, 2, 5 or 10 mill would not improve that.

It is odd to compare, as some have, pets with kids, but for those of us who, for various reasons have never had kids, & for whom it's now too late, our pets are our kids.

Currently, we're OK - but if we extend life expectancy through scientific advances (reducing infant deaths and prolonging the average lifespan to say 150 years - for argument's sake), the natural resources required and actual space for these people to live will become very scarce.

'Civilisation' has/will certainly affect the course of human evolution.  We're still physiologically very similar to men who lived in caves, but the factors that were key to their survival are not so important to most of us in the 21st century.


There are examples of where an equilibrium is created in a confined and separated eco-system for many years and generations of the species within that.  This status quo is stable whilst outside influences don't come into play, but as soon as something happens to unbalance it (weather change, introduction of a predator or other species competing for the same resources, etc.), the survival of the species within this system can come under threat.  The dodo was a species that could only really live where it did (in the absence of predators), and as soon as something happened to that 'status quo', their extinction was pretty much ensured.  The same is seen in many cases of island gigantism - and it's exactly because of the status quo on these islands that these species can develop but are then susceptible to a change which can drive them to extinction.


Oh, and if I had a cat - it would be yours for a fiver. 

Sorry Sword, but I already have a cat.

i'm not embarrassed to admit that the aforementioned sums of money would improve my life immeasurably, i'm just that fickle ::)

Every day, in every way, we become more compatible.

It was meant to be.

Very true as for evolution to occur, the species needs isolation and for us human that simply isnt possible anymore!