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Good luck fella.

second that..he's overdue a win :)

GL

is he playing at Walsall ?

Montreal - Lets hope its boring and the Chip leader stays the same until the end.

the boy's good, always been talented

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b8D0g0SmB0

Hope the twat crashes! Everything is green but him!

??

POTW

Betfair, he is my only loser, i need a Massa miracle for a decent win.

LOL, You had lost me there with that green statement.

Hope you lose the wager though  ;)

An exceptional talent and hope he goes all the way.

Was that one helluva crash or what tho!!

LMAO at the driver who had just retired and was narrowly missed by the flying car just before it hit the wall.

Geo

bloody stop start .. stop start ... its like a rugby match ffs.

Ship that !!!   love it !!!

Whats the craic with ITV's coverage. Bloody Corrie St!!!

Amazing.    I also loved Sato's pass on Alonso.   

Absolutely disgraceful - It shows how little respect ITV have for F1.

The sooner Bernie takes it off them the better.

Anyone still taking bets for next years sports personality of the year?  ;)

Monty for a double major win should do it...

Eh?

The race went on for much longer than it should have due to the safety car coming out about 237217 times, this meant they had less time for analysis.

Standard.

I agree it is standard - that is what pisses me off.

It is a great opportunity missed by ITV - a senior exec should have made a decision and delayed corporation street by 15 mins. By having 15 mins of interviews celebrating the first win of the "celebrity" (and great driver) LH they would have gained more viewers, who would have been pulled in to watch the primetime coverage next week from the US. There advertising rates would have gone though the roof (they still will but in-spite of ITV's efforts not because of them)

They spent that whole of the race coverage giving the most basic commentary so as to lure new viewers in, they get the result they wanted most and celebrated the fact by chopping any celebration of it. One of the most short sighted media decisions ever. And of many ITV F1 directorial decisions which make them look ridiculous (the adverts in the last two laps of a race that was actually interesting ).

All through the race we had 'it was a question of when rather than if the safety car came out'. It wouldnt have taken a genius to add that to the fact the bloke was on poe to think probablt best to give ourselves a bit of cover. It's usually pretty rushed at the end usually anyway so I'm sure they could have padded if need be.

Plus Corrie street fans are exactly going to turn over and not come back to watch it - they have nothing else to do.

People now have to stay up until about 3am to watch the highlights of the race to see the interviews. Not good.

My guess would be Corrie fans are more important to ITV than F1 fans....

More watch Corrie...

Obviously, on both counts, which adds weight to their loyalty being able to be used against them today.

Did i hear right across the grapevine that there is a rumoured 500 MILLION pound contract on the cards for this spoilt little shit??

everything I have read about him over the last few years suggests he's not spoilt or a shit. why do you think he is?

It was on the news the other day that he is expected to earn more than Schumacher has in his career.  MS earned an estimated £520 million.  That's not $,  it is actually pounds  :o.  The PR guy said there are many things in LH favour in terms of potential sponsors,  his nice guy image being one.  Also the fact he is black and young also make him marketable

Ok perhaps im wrong as this is only what i have heard lately but i heard he has been spoon fed by his old man all the way through his career and alonso claims he is getting a lot of preferential treatment in the camp because he is a british driver in a british team. Alonso jealous? maybe, but there is usually a hint of truth.
Its not that hard to be the best, or at least be up with the runners when you have been given the best since about the age of 12.
Feel free to rip this post to shreds.

His old man was working 3 jobs to try and fund his sons kart racing ...

Until he was ten Lewis lived with his mother; after that he lived with his father, step-mother and half-brother[6] Nicholas who suffers from cerebral palsy. At six, he began his racing career when Anthony bought Lewis his first go-kart. He held down three jobs to support Lewis' career and still found enough time to attend all of Lewis' races.[6] When he was nine, Lewis approached Ron Dennis and told him, "I'm going to race for you one day...I'm going to race for McLaren", and at the age of eleven he was signed to McLaren's development programme,[6] whilst still attending The John Henry Newman School. In early 2007, Hamilton moved from Tewin Wood in Hertfordshire to Woking in Surrey to be closer to the McLaren factory.

He is great, but KingPoker does make a good point.  I have watched motorsport since I was about 5 yrs old,  I could name hundreds of racing drivers who never made it to f1 because of lack of funds.  In 1999 there was a great British driver who won the F3 title called Mark Hynes.  Who? .  Exactly.   He never had the money to get into F1 and as a result probably works in Burger King now.   In 1999 Jenson Button finnished in 3rd place in the championship behind Mark Hynes.  Button is now a famous millionaire racing driver and Mark Hynes is a nobody in the world of motorsport.   Motorsport is about talent, but sadly it also comes down to money.  Some young guys have loads of money and some don't.   Ron Dennis did back Hamilton all the way through Formula Renault, F3, GP2.  This adds up to millions of pounds.

This maybe why KP considers him spoilt........

I mean 3 different jobs none involving sheep - you'd never get that in his neck of the woods!!

 ;whistle;

Hynes works as a driving coach for Renault and some other F3 teams and it has been rumoured that one of his former pupils was none other than Lewis Hamilton.......

British mentality ... root for the underdog, build him up and cheer him on .... then as soon as he becomes successful, rip him to bits and try and destroy him ... very sad.

Yep, I know. I was using Burger King as an example of how one guy can achieve his dream and another can fall short purely because of money.   My point is that he would have got to F1 had he been given the opportunity financially.  He also coached many of the other young guys who will be in f1 soon, drivers such as Bruno Senna and Nelson Piquet Junior( Renault test driver ).   Come to think of it,  I believe Hynes is racing at Le Mans. It isn't F1 though   

To be honest i dont believe F1 is a true test of drivers skill anymore - its all about which team you drive for. I too used to watch F1 all the time from the early 80's and whilst there were some teams that were better than others the races used to be closer run things - and each race could have any one of 8 or 10 different drivers winning it.

Now you can only win the F1 championship if you drive for the right team. Best way to see who the best driver is, make each person drive each race in a different car. Each driver drives each car once - the constructors title still to play for would ensure that each team prepares the car to the best of its ability each race and may the best driver win. It'll never happen but it would make it a far more interesting championship.

The idea of A1 Grand Prix is good .  All cars are identical and it attracts some good drivers from various racing series.   The thing I hate about it is the fact it is a nations cup series.  Who wants to watch a great driver like Nelson Piquet Junior racing against an unknown Chinese driver?  I would love to see 20 top drivers ( F1 drivers / Some IRL drivers ) in the A1 GP cars.  All equal cars and the best driver wins.  I think we may see a few different drivers right at the front,  Anthony Davidson would be a winner for sure.

Think Kev's post sums up the difference here.

It wasn't the fact that Hamilton had the funding at the beginning, however obviously had the ambititon. The fact that his father worked as hard as he did to get the young man into a position where he can tell Ron Dennis that he is going to drive for him one day speaks volumes.

You can have all the money in the world but if you ain't got the ambition, motivation or the skill you aren't going to make it.

Full marks to the Hamilton family IMHO.

Geo

I've meet Lewis Hamilton a few times (my brother works in F1), & known about him for 10 years or so, he really is a down to earth young guy, but with a real talent that is focused on winning. In that respect he is ruthless, but that is what has got him to where he is today & probably to the F1 World Championship.
Ron Dennis is probably the second most ruthless man in F1 after Bernie E, & he knows a World Champ when he sees one, not to mention the increased marketing possibilities Lewis can bring to Mclaren.

Ah Lewis Hamilton ---- yummy ----

he rocks, and I do hope he will win whatever is there to win. Good luck to him. 

good post

And the guy takes pole again in the USA,  Make it 2 in a row now kid.

superb stuff! I haven;'t been watching a lot of F1 lately..ussually if I catch the start I'll watch it but can't really be bothered too much with it. This guy has gotten me properly excited about it again, I love seeing new talent burst on the scene and do well..the thought that "we could be witnessing the start of something very special here" makes it worth watching.

I agree, there seems to be an added spark this year in the arrival of Hamilton. It just needs Ferrari to get their act together quickly to give Mclaren some competion, & then this season could be a classic.

Another superb drive from this new super star,

Really enjoyed the race aswell, Competetive all over the track

Lewis is a bot.

 ;D

That was great driving.  The bit where Alonso tried to pass and he was all "no no no mf, you ain't passing me" was quality!  Why should Alonso get preferential treatment and Hamilton be told to let him pass?  He's leading the championship!

Quite agree with Matts post the other day about having to be in the right team to win grand prix, but getting in to the right team is the hard bit.  He's got great talent at driving and deserves his spot in a top team.  Besides, it's not like he's just strolled up, he's been with them for 14 years!

Not happy they delayed corrie though :D :D


Superb stuff !!

yeaaaaaaaaaaaaah another pole position, fantastic lap

Bump....

That was sheer brilliance, he just pulled 7 tenths from absolutely nowhere. going to miss the race tomorrow to make sure I dont get caught in its traffic - gutted. He is the real deal of a sporting superstar.

lol, your nearly as quick as him!

Awesome.

Normally, of course, Formula 1 is as exciting as watching paint dry. Even in this 'closest season for years' no one ever actually seems to overtake anyone.

But those last three minutes of qualifying were great telly.

They should make it all like that.

My boss's godson works for Williams, and invited him to come to the British Grand Prix tomorrow - being a bit of a boy my boss liked this idea a lot.

Except his wife had already accepted an invitation from their godsons dad for an even more valuable ticket to Glyndebourne and has told him that they have to go there instead  rotflmfao

It doesn't get me any closer to being able to go myself but a bit of schadenfreude is always good to make you smille.

3rd and way off the pace...The strategy was quite clearly completely wrong. Kimi looked good though.

Anyone does with a helmet on, even kinboshi!!

Well...maybe not kin but fair point.

 id say picking up 3rd when your car is uncompetitve is a result.  Ferrari look to have made big improvements in last couple of races though.

no doubt Hamilton did well to get third, but a poor tire choice cost him a lot and it's a stupid mistake to make me thinks

Its getting really interesting....Ferrari now have the fastest race car, & Raikkonen's got to grips with it. Hamilton has still got the upper hand, points in the bag & consistency. Alonso will hit back for sure, & Massa is certainly no mug.
So four drivers pretty equally matched, its a shame, but if the teams remain close, I think team orders will come in to play (probably after Monza). Already a fascinating F1 season.

Hungarian Grand Prix: Alonso showing some Sennaesque ruthlessness!!!

Bring back Shumi - he would have just punched his teammate if that had happened to him.

Mind you - If Alonso had pulled that trick on any other driver i would have been on Fernando's side.

I would have punched him..and i think big Ron just might

Interesting to see the spoilt arse putting it down to team orders in the press conference.

Another thing to consider - witrh bookies and exchanges offering big markets on qualifying winners, with huge in-play swings seen on the Betfair market, surely a team instruction of this sort would raise questions about corruption?

I mean - in-play, Hamilton was the fastest and was always gonna get pole, pushing Alonso's price up to 3.55 at one point.  Then, a 'team instruction' that has only one outcome causes him to win the session - I'm not a betting guru but I do know a little bit, and it smells funny to me.

if it was horse racing there'd be an investigation now

They've moved Alonso five places down the grid, that is an astounding(to me) decision.

ive been hoovering up the 13/8 Ralph, still some around with the  if you want to bet.

in the sense that it is unfair, or brave?

Well, it's not unfair in the sense that it is totally undeserved, more unprecidented.

But is it any worse than driving a guy off at the first bend like Prost and Senna, or Schumacher and Hill.

It was gamesmanship in the extreme and certainly ungentlemanly, but the punishment seems somewhat Draconian to me. Why did they leave it so late with only five seconds of margin for the final qualifying lap ?

What is 13/8 Phil, that they rescind the demotion ?

Hamilton to win

Ahh that seems to have all gone now  ::)

PS I like your chances of making a nice profit there sir :)

This seems like the usual F1 stewards decision, arbitrary & made after hours of backroom political manoeuvring. Droping Alonso back to 6th makes sense, but not allowing McLaren to score constructors points seems to be a well aimed kick in the teeth.

After the incident Ron Dennis was clearly livid & typically tight lipped. I suspect the decision to hold up Hamilton was made by Alonso & his race engineer without Dennis's knowledge.

 :)up

I can see him being 1.75 ish by the middle of the morning when people realise

yes that seems to be the case. Dennis just about ran up to Alonso's trainer (or that's what they called him on ITV) and grabbed him by the neck and just about dragged him inside lol..he was not amused.

Impressive interview with Hamilton, he's just not rattled at all by Alonso gamesmanship.

The man is truly something else,  He could easily become one of the all time greats in the future and F1 could do with a honest, well mannered and winning ambassador

Yep, he is a well mannered guy and good sportsman.  It is crazy behaviour by Alonso to ignore Hamilton, he is acting like a Kid, not a two time champion. Ignoring a guy because he is faster than you is a bit daft.  Hamilton is so calm and mature for a 22 year old, it is hard to imagine the massive pressure he has on him whatever he does.  Pure class in and out of the car

Hey stranger!  Where you been?

Alonso to bugger off next year with Lewis number 1 and to destroy Schumacers record in the years to come  ;D

Hi mate,  I have been working and also waiting for Orange to sort out my internet connection ( The PC World deal with the free laptop  ;nemesis; )

Yea, Alonso is playing a dangerous game. He may be brilliant, but Ron Dennis won't stand for anyone making negative comments about the team to the media.  Top drivers have been given the elbow before for getting on the wrong side with their teams. 

Did anyone see the Dario Franchitti Indy crash on the news?   Jesus, he was a lucky guy

one lucky guy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3NO_zYCvb4

another lucky guy from a few years back, Peter Dumbreck at Le Mans disappearing into the trees

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ow3rxq7U1mA

Scary crash.  The three worst accidents I can remember before this are the Zanardi crash from Indy in 2001, the JV crash from Belgium in 1998 or 1999 and the Barrichello 94 crash at Imola. Race drivers are heroes, it has to be the second best job in the World after a jet fighter pilot

I remember watching the Peter Dumbreck crash, very scary stuff


edit   this one from Imola 94 . You can see the changes in car design now, his head would not be able to swing forward like that now .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSI27en56tg

I remember that one well, my brother was working for Jordan at the time.

I liked the Jordan car a lot in 94 and 95 with Irvine driving. 

2nd big crash for Dario Franchitti in a week last night

Gl Lewis tonight - no need for a photo finish at Fuji - just win it.

(Can't believe I am going to get up at 4:30am to watch this) {although this is prob why he is 1.19 at betfair to win the the SPoY}

Lewis has shown sheer class all season, with another great pole today. Heres hoping he can complete the job at Shanghai.  ;goodluck;

yep, I agree.   He is the most deserving driver to win this year.   I have seen another side to Alonso this season,  he seems petty and has been unsporting on many occassions . 


  I have thought for years that F1 need to introduce a new points system where a driver gains one point for achieving pole/fastest lap.  Possibly even an extra point for most race laps led during the race.  Indy do this .

I am looking forward to JV Nascar debut this week. 

Don't want tp spoil anything for those wanting to watch the re run - though to be fair you shouldnt have looked at thread!!!! The champagne is off ice - just hope it doesnt stay that way.

hamiltons such a useless donkey

High pressure weekend ahead for the boy Hamilton. Will it end in glory? Will the Spanish villain steal the crown? Can Raikkonen nip between the two & bring the title to Ferrari?

Fantastic weekend ahead, a few more twists & turns I suspect before it's settled.

I personally think this could end in disaster for McLaren wouldn't be suprised if both Hamilton and Alonso took each other out and let Raikonnen squeeze in.

BAD NEWS 

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/7053377.stm

Oh to be a fly on the wall of that meeting.

It appears there are no set rules, so they need to decide do they ruin the best run in for years by putting him to the back of the gird, or just knock him down 5 places to spice things up abit.

I can imagine what the Spainsh and Finnsh blokes will say.

every single time he F'ed up it was a silly mistake like this by him and his crew..If they had changed tires earlier during the last GP he would already have the title in the bag as well. stick him back 5 places or back of the grid like they would with any useless donkey.

Well he got away with that one, but on such small margins are championchips won.

So a treble on Lewis, England and Snoop's this weekend.

GL all.

$15,000 Fine  ,    THANKFULLY  

Cheering on Lewis now (not that I wasn't before)

Looking forwad to the GP

I feel sorry for the blokes who drink in the pub that Kimberley offa X factor works in.

First England get pumped at footie and rugger, then their lass goes home with a duck in t'live shows. Not a good week.
Let's hope Hamilton gets the job done, save them jumping of bridges.

Looking grim for Hamilton, needs a miracle now.

ITV go to ad break with Hamilton in 7th - when they come back he's 18th.

They always seem to miss the important stuff.

Ain't ITV brilliant?

Just seen him go from 16th to 11th in a little over a lap. 

Needs to finish 5th to guarantee the title I think...

ITV quality.....

They wonder why so many people cant be bothered watching throughout the season...

Can he do it?

Cheaper than the rest tho

Very true

What a move that was..

wow...do or die stuff

funniest pitstop ever

OMG, Did you see that Williams driver run over two of his own pit team!

His first ever pit stop and he runs two people over.

Whoh - don't think Nakajimi will be getting a Christmas card from his pit crew this year.

Wipeout.

Great report from the pits.  Apparently one has hurt his back, and the other his leg.

I guess the one holding his back has the injured back, and the one hopping is the one with the injured leg.  But I'm no doctor...

 rotflmfao rotflmfao

Williams pit crew clothing for next season:

(http://www.aurorahistoryboutique.com/products/A000019_L.jpg)

ITV go to their 3rd ad break in 20 minutes...

I'm listening to more of this on the radio than I am watching on the TV.

And Raikkonen takes the lead of the race (and thus the championship) during the break...

 :D

McClaren have probably buggered any chance Hamilton had with the fuel strategy.

Neverends...

The only thing worse than the McClaren team's performance in the last two races (inc Lewis), has been ITV's coverage today. Now they can't rip as much out of people for rigged competitions they've had to sell their sole to the advertising devil...

There's always next year - if the $100m doesn't have too much of an effect!!

Still Sports personality of the year - without doubt.

'You want a bet on that pal?'

(http://www.morson.com/images/news/BM_MC_HATTON_29.jpg)

.... is Steve McClarens teams performance.

He won't win.  His fights are shown on Sky...seems to make a difference. 

I copied the guy above me.... ::)

mc laren should be ashamed of themselves..Lewis and his team simply threw it away

Hmmmm I wonder if Kimi will give a song & a dance on the podium  ::)

But the fight against Mayweather is so big that it will negate that - there'll be blanket coverage in the papers and on terrestrial news to make sure it imprints in people's heads.

And not only that, but the fight is on the morning of Sunday 9th December - the same day that SPOTY is. So when the public phone in their votes on the night he'll be super fresh in their minds.

I'd like to see it, but I doubt it. 

On Betfair at the moment, Hatton is 3.25 to beat Mayweather and 5 to be SPOTY. Given Hamilton has lost, if Hatton wins the fight he wins SPOTY, so there's a price discrepancy here.

I was really hoping for Hamilton to get into 6th place with Alonso in 5th just to see what happened when

Alonso was told the team orders to let him through, now we'll never know......

I think the voting is open before the actual night of the awards.

Firstly he'd actually have to win the fight, then he'd have to get coverage on the show, then he'd have to get votes from the people going to bed early after being up all night the night before!!

My initial comment was more in relation to my opinion rather than a statement of fact - but they are often the same thing. Will be more interesting now anyway!

Well that must be the most comprehensive bok ever.

WP Kimi

read somewhere that some guy put 50k on a england to beat russia , england to beat SA , and hamilton to win championshipt treble


now i want to know what he is backing next so i can lay it

very bizarre decision to not fuel Lewis to the end wasn't it? the 3rd pit stop gave him absolutely no hope whatsoever...


just seems to me that when push came to shove in the last 2 GPs McLaren completely botched tactics, tyres in china and pit stop here

only Lewis' team botched the tactics..Alonso's crew got it pretty much spot on.

Lewis' chief engineer is my cousin, Phillip Prew

Standard.

and you never got us VIP tickets to brazil

standard

assuming Phil isn't pushes, Silverstone 08 is my aim!!!

british one is normally the hardest to get invites too for a british team

Sold them on Ebay.

Standard

Obviously fuelling Hamilton till the end is the F1 equivalent of playing QQ in early position.

Its all hereditary, nit poker players and nit F1 strategists

steward's enquiry
http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12433_2816759,00.html

oooh

Wouldn't want to win it like that tho

I'd be amazed if they made Hamilton champion this way.  Certainly interesting though

This must be the dirtiest F1 season ever...

It would be an absolute travesty if this changes the result.

Hamilton's team gained advantages from knowingly cheating and yet he was not punished. For Raikkonen to lose out because of something BMW and Williams did would just be a joke.

Why?

If those three cars overheated in the last ten laps, would it be a travisty? No!
But they didn't, and the possible reason seems to be that their fuel was put into the cars at a lower temp than is legal!!!


Next season he will be, by having his garage at the wrong end of the pits. (don't ask me why, but apparently its very important!)


This happens in every league style championship, no matter what sport.

IMO Its just sport!!!

Didn't happen anyway!!!

http://news.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,70131-1289310,00.html?f=vg

first off the garage are bigger one end tan the other
also if 2 drivers go in at same time the guy who is furthest along the pit lane has advantage of seeing the car behind pulling away

so can sneak out in front (with a good team behind the pit)

with mclaren in the worst garage  there rivals have a number of seconds to get there car out ahead (remember no overtaking in the pit lane)

That said, they should be penalised if they broke the rules.  Hamilton was penalised this weekend for running two sets of tyres, but I agree 100% that Kimi should keep the title.  If it's a crime that warrants a placing penalty, then it should take effect in the first race of the new season.


imo.

Williams aren't worried where their garage is placed along the pit lane, just as long as Nakajima can't find them they'll be happy.

 rotflmfao

Rubens Barricello sorts his Chief Mechanic out  :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QM9_co5gjIk

Bring back Eddie Irvine

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtlNxwu43g8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XtlNxwu43g8)