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Title: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 14, 2007, 07:03:09 PM
we are off me,mel and niall,.,., selling all my property and shipping out.......
anyone wanna buy sharkyshades unit,,,, for the summer lots of work with it a good opertunity
enough stock to take £70,000
the unit is worth £20k+stock
quick sale £30k the lot pm me if intrested
this country is going to the dogs no offence red lol.,.,./.
cyprus is the place to be.,.,.,.,.
just bought a place out there and thinking of the property game.,.,.,hehe,.,you only live once.,.,.,,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Dewi_cool on June 14, 2007, 07:09:48 PM
Good Luck Jamesj, hope it works out for you & your family :)up


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 14, 2007, 07:15:18 PM
Good luck with it.  Can't be worse than Wales...


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: spruce goose on June 14, 2007, 07:15:31 PM
is it the constant racism of big brother or perhaps the lambasting of poker celebrities re their attire or maybe even the outside chance that flushy will become a mod that has soured your view on this green and pleasent land?

cyprus isnt that hot you know!

ive family that went and came back much disillusioned with what they thought was to be the promised land.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: ZZZZZZZROPE on June 14, 2007, 07:18:47 PM
gl with that m8, but watch out with property developement over there, i hear the is a law something along the lines of even when you buy the land and develop it the previous owner can still take it back, not 100 percent about the actual law tho. definetly check it out before you buy any land


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 14, 2007, 07:59:04 PM
thnx for tips but i have familly out there and they love it,
and the property game>>>stay away from the north
im not being funny but isnt it better to look out in the morning and see the sea and nice and hot?
this country has allways got something bad in the news,,.,.,i never see anything nice.,.,you mark my words give this country 5-10 years and it will be a crack haven like the states.,.,,.i do hope not though.,.,.,
me and my familly just think it would be a nice change we are selling up everything sticking the money in the bank and gonna rent for a year and watch the property game then jump hopefully.,.,.,lol.,.,.,


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: BTB on June 14, 2007, 08:04:31 PM
lol, good luck and i dont blame you one bit.
Any good live poker out there?

I love the protaris area the people are great.

BTB


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Ironside on June 14, 2007, 08:19:31 PM
hey just a thought why not ship sharkyshades over to cyprus from what i remember (i was 7 when i left) there is a much bigger need for the shades over there than there is here



Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: lazaroonie on June 14, 2007, 08:20:06 PM
GL with it....btw the Cypriots are the most money obssessed materialistic people I have ever met in my life.



Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: spruce goose on June 14, 2007, 08:26:29 PM
thnx for tips but i have familly out there and they love it,
and the property game>>>stay away from the north
im not being funny but isnt it better to look out in the morning and see the sea and nice and hot?
this country has allways got something bad in the news,,.,.,i never see anything nice.,.,you mark my words give this country 5-10 years and it will be a crack haven like the states.,.,,.i do hope not though.,.,.,
me and my familly just think it would be a nice change we are selling up everything sticking the money in the bank and gonna rent for a year and watch the property game then jump hopefully.,.,.,lol.,.,.,

well good luck to you but i think your missing something.

you say theres allways bad news and your right but in my experience bad news for some1 is good news for somebody else.

what about this countries drug problems and there probable expansion-great investment potential there then!!

and given that most street dealers need to obscure their identities-what an outlet for sunglasses.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: portfolio on June 14, 2007, 08:26:50 PM
GL with it....btw the Cypriots are the most money obssessed materialistic people I have ever met in my life.




what a fanstatic over generalisation   !!!!!!!

have you met 100  % of them ???


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Zebediah on June 14, 2007, 08:29:01 PM
The only true reasons for going abroad are better climate and cheaper cost of living.
Both valid reasons mind.

Bizarre statement calling the USA a crack haven though...actually been there?


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: lazaroonie on June 14, 2007, 08:30:57 PM
GL with it....btw the Cypriots are the most money obssessed materialistic people I have ever met in my life.




what a fanstatic over generalisation   !!!!!!!

have you met 100  % of them ???

yes, its not a big place :)

seriously -  I dont actually mean it in a bad way - its just the way they are -


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: boldie on June 14, 2007, 08:40:46 PM
well done James!...I have been fed up with this country on and off for a while now..just don't have the dosh to do it at the moment..but hoping to change that by getting a job in Prague while on holiday there at the end of next month. :)


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: portfolio on June 14, 2007, 08:43:18 PM
gl with that m8, but watch out with property developement over there, i hear the is a law something along the lines of even when you buy the land and develop it the previous owner can still take it back, not 100 percent about the actual law tho. definetly check it out before you buy any land

agreed, looked into it as well but scared off  by obscure  deeds etc.

agree with ur  sentiment tho sofa, got a place in portugal ready  for a not too far off day  hopefullty........


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: spruce goose on June 14, 2007, 08:46:40 PM
gl with that m8, but watch out with property developement over there, i hear the is a law something along the lines of even when you buy the land and develop it the previous owner can still take it back, not 100 percent about the actual law tho. definetly check it out before you buy any land

agreed, looked into it as well but scared off  by obscure  deeds etc.

agree with ur  sentiment tho sofa, got a place in portugal ready  for a not too far off day  hopefullty........

sinking ships,rats 1st or so ive heard  ;hide;


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 14, 2007, 08:56:20 PM
It's all these foreigners over here.  That's why I want to move abroad.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Acidmouse on June 14, 2007, 09:00:15 PM
So you want to be something your trying to avoid? rofl


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 14, 2007, 09:10:44 PM
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Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: The_nun on June 14, 2007, 09:15:09 PM
Good luck James to you and yours.. I hope it all works out for you guys the way you want it to..xxxxxxxx


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: bolt pp on June 14, 2007, 09:29:40 PM
thnx for tips but i have familly out there and they love it,
and the property game>>>stay away from the north
im not being funny but isnt it better to look out in the morning and see the sea and nice and hot?
this country has allways got something bad in the news,,.,.,i never see anything nice.,.,you mark my words give this country 5-10 years and it will be a crack haven like the states.,.,,.i do hope not though.,.,.,
me and my familly just think it would be a nice change we are selling up everything sticking the money in the bank and gonna rent for a year and watch the property game then jump hopefully.,.,.,lol.,.,.,

and given that most street dealers need to obscure their identities-what an outlet for sunglasses.

LOL, quality   rotflmfao



Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: SuffolkPunch on June 14, 2007, 10:03:58 PM
Best of luck - hope it all works out.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: RED-DOG on June 15, 2007, 01:15:48 AM
This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,--
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.


Good luck James, send us a postcard.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: suzanne on June 15, 2007, 04:59:40 AM
Take plenty PG tips, oxo cubes and brown sauce and I wish you well.

Hope I still get to meet you one day sofa...you are on my "would love to meet" list xx


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Snatiramas on June 15, 2007, 08:17:14 AM
I think if you are so minded to have a change of lifestyle then you should go and do. No regrets and no need for reasons. Are there things wrong in the UK? Almost certainly. Are there things wrong in almost every country? Almost certainly.
Does it matter? Not really. It all comes down to how you feel at any given moment in time.

So I say the best of luck to you and the family


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 15, 2007, 09:04:34 AM
This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
This other Eden, demi-paradise,
This fortress built by Nature for herself
Against infection and the hand of war,
This happy breed of men, this little world,
This precious stone set in the silver sea,
Which serves it in the office of a wall
Or as a moat defensive to a house,
Against the envy of less happier lands,--
This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.


Good luck James, send us a postcard.

That's the problem though.  He lives in Wales...


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 09:08:31 AM
thanx all for your very kind words.,.,.,
but i really do think its a better way of life,my parents and sister moved there about 8 months ago and they love it,.,.,and im one of these guys if you never try.,.,you never know.,.,
im thinking of buying a nice motor cruiser and maybee doing boat trips or just chilling for a few months and getting into the property game.,.,.,.,i may even start importing sofas.,.,
all my life i have been dependant on the weather in this country for my business
when i had a fruit barrow in the middle of cardiff town center it was allways looking at the weather/then flower barrow too........then a massive sofa showroom.,.,i allways found that if it rained on a weekend nobody would go out...so still all on weather.,.,and now obviously sunglasses,.,.,and i really think this country is slipping away.,,.its allways vat,tax,insurance.,.,.,we both think that there are more opertunitys out there as people seem happier and more friendly,.,.,i think this country has a lot of S.A.D. syndrome about it and people dont even know they got it.,.,.,.,
i allways say if you dont do it now you never will.,.so were gonna try it.,.,
whats the worst can happen ?we sell everything put the money in the bank.,.,if we dont like it we can come back and buy somewhere else.,.i got a funny feeling that the property market here is gonna fall anyway.,so to be honest i think its a good time to sell.,.,i just got a feeling,.,and i normally go with my feelings.,.,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: spruce goose on June 15, 2007, 10:00:58 AM
i think if you review youre posts on this thread you may conclude that its yourself thats suffering from s.a.d.

as you say people dont know they got it


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: The_nun on June 15, 2007, 10:03:57 AM
I hope you will make sure you get the internet asap James, so that we can all keep in touch with you.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Sark79 on June 15, 2007, 10:37:17 AM
thnx for tips but i have familly out there and they love it,
and the property game>>>stay away from the north
im not being funny but isnt it better to look out in the morning and see the sea and nice and hot?
this country has allways got something bad in the news,,.,.,i never see anything nice.,.,you mark my words give this country 5-10 years and it will be a crack haven like the states.,.,,.i do hope not though.,.,.,
me and my familly just think it would be a nice change we are selling up everything sticking the money in the bank and gonna rent for a year and watch the property game then jump hopefully.,.,.,lol.,.,.,


Good luck Boss


You may have a point.  The UK is certainly going downhill fast. 


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 11:32:04 AM
i think if you review youre posts on this thread you may conclude that its yourself thats suffering from s.a.d.

as you say people dont know they got it
if you know me pal.,.,.,you would know i deffinately havent got S.A.D SYNDROME.....


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: spruce goose on June 15, 2007, 11:36:35 AM
i stand corrected-youre a regular mr chuckles


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tikay on June 15, 2007, 11:43:48 AM


Good Luck James, & do keep in touch via blonde please.

To those that say "the UK is going downhill fast", well, that depends how you look at it. It's easy to think the grass is greener elsewhere.

That's not necessarily so.

I am biased, & no doubt wrong, but if there is a more beautiful part of the world than England, Derbyshire in particular, then I've yet to see it, & I have travelled the World extensively. You don't have to watch TV, or read Newspapers, & you can walk in the Derbyshire woods or Yorkshire Dales & think you have died, & woken up in Heaven. Scotland, Wales too are achingly beautiful. It's a glass half-empty thing to think other places are "better". We in the UK are truly blessed. Meadows, forests, winding rivers, farmland, wildlife, temperate climate - the climate's uncertainty is a plus as fas as I'm concerned.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 11:55:06 AM


Good Luck James, & do keep in touch via blonde please.

To those that say "the UK is going downhill fast", well, that depends how you look at it. It's easy to think the grass is greener elsewhere.

That's not necessarily so.

I am biased, & no doubt wrong, but if there is a more beautiful part of the world than England, Derbyshire in particular, then I've yet to see it, & I have travelled the World extensively. You don't have to watch TV, or read Newspapers, & you can walk in the Derbyshire woods or Yorkshire Dales & think you have died, & woken up in Heaven. Scotland, Wales too are achingly beautiful. It's a glass half-empty thing to think other places are "better". We in the UK are truly blessed. Meadows, forests, winding rivers, farmland, wildlife, temperate climate - the climate's uncertainty is a plus as fas as I'm concerned.
WHATS THE SEASIDE LIKE HERE,.,.ok its allright apart from the odd floaty.,.you cant even see your hand under the water let alone your feet.,.lol
i do say that britain has got some fantastic coutryside wales inparticular.,.,but im finding the way of life is not so good .,.,the way your treated ,.,the harder you try the more you have to give to the goverment.,.its getting that the only way forward with health care is private and its getting  too expensive,.,i had a full medical for familly private healthcare £195 month.,,.me,wife,son.,.,
out there its £35.,.
road tax here for my jeep £187 out there £24,.,and the roads are 10 times better than spain,.,
i dunno.,.,you never know till you try it.,.and i really think that the brits are going to invest a lot in cyprus next year as it comes into the euro.,.,it will be the new spain for investment
typical 2 bed appartment for buy to let £60k in cyprus
water is better than the caribbean and the indian ocean ive seen it.,.,.it will be the new promised land lol.,.,.,.,.
people in this country cant afford to get on the ladder,.,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Sark79 on June 15, 2007, 12:33:11 PM
I agree tikay that the climate of the UK is fantastic, I hate hot climates.  However, even since I have left School I have seen a  massive increase in Neds/Scumbags walking the streets.  Here is an example, the other day I was walking down the street and in my view was an old guy about 75 years old.  He was walking his dog and from previous conversations, I knew he was a nice old guy.  I stood and watched as a car sped past and threw a water balloon at him from the car. It hit him and as a result, he was left shaken by the incident.   I can't imagine that that would happen even 10 year ago.  Kids today have no fear of punishment, they know that all of modern Briatain's do-gooders will prevent them getting the kind of punishment they deserve.  I know who the old guy is and I also know his Family.  His Family are not to be messed with,  I notified his Grandson of what happened and I am sure the balloon throwers will be spoken to in due course. 

My Uncle is a nice guy, he is sort of an unofficial town mayor. For the last 20 years he has helped around the village organising various things for the village community, as a result he was given an MBE a few years ago and is liked by everyone.  In the past, Kids used to respect him, now the local Kids only give him a hard time.  A few weeks ago I stood chatting to him and we were looking at his new car.  A bunch of local Kids walked past and shouted  " F...ing Snob.....Wanker......f..king old snob..... " at him.  He is 65 years old, the Kids were about 13 years old.  The village he lives is actually a nice place. This would not happen in the past.  I hate the way Britain is going.  Britain used to be a great country and now we are descending fast.  "Britain is going downhill fast".


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tikay on June 15, 2007, 12:40:18 PM


Good Luck James, & do keep in touch via blonde please.

To those that say "the UK is going downhill fast", well, that depends how you look at it. It's easy to think the grass is greener elsewhere.

That's not necessarily so.

I am biased, & no doubt wrong, but if there is a more beautiful part of the world than England, Derbyshire in particular, then I've yet to see it, & I have travelled the World extensively. You don't have to watch TV, or read Newspapers, & you can walk in the Derbyshire woods or Yorkshire Dales & think you have died, & woken up in Heaven. Scotland, Wales too are achingly beautiful. It's a glass half-empty thing to think other places are "better". We in the UK are truly blessed. Meadows, forests, winding rivers, farmland, wildlife, temperate climate - the climate's uncertainty is a plus as fas as I'm concerned.
WHATS THE SEASIDE LIKE HERE,.,.ok its allright apart from the odd floaty.,.you cant even see your hand under the water let alone your feet.,.lol
i do say that britain has got some fantastic coutryside wales inparticular.,.,but im finding the way of life is not so good .,.,the way your treated ,.,the harder you try the more you have to give to the goverment.,.its getting that the only way forward with health care is private and its getting  too expensive,.,i had a full medical for familly private healthcare £195 month.,,.me,wife,son.,.,
out there its £35.,.
road tax here for my jeep £187 out there £24,.,and the roads are 10 times better than spain,.,
i dunno.,.,you never know till you try it.,.and i really think that the brits are going to invest a lot in cyprus next year as it comes into the euro.,.,it will be the new spain for investment
typical 2 bed appartment for buy to let £60k in cyprus
water is better than the caribbean and the indian ocean ive seen it.,.,.it will be the new promised land lol.,.,.,.,.
people in this country cant afford to get on the ladder,.,.


Well most folks definition of "seaside" is Blackpool or Southend, both of which are tack City big time, really dreadful.

But if you want Seaside, the UK has thousands of miles of it, 99% of which is deserted, with sparkling clear water. And a variable climate is fine by me - no rain, no rainbow.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tikay on June 15, 2007, 12:42:19 PM
I agree tikay that the climate of the UK is fantastic, I hate hot climates.  However, even since I have left School I have seen a  massive increase in Neds/Scumbags walking the streets.  Here is an example, the other day I was walking down the street and in my view was an old guy about 75 years old.  He was walking his dog and from previous conversations, I knew he was a nice old guy.  I stood and watched as a car sped past and threw a water balloon at him from the car. It hit him and as a result, he was left shaken by the incident.   I can't imagine that that would happen even 10 year ago.  Kids today have no fear of punishment, they know that all of modern Briatain's do-gooders will prevent them getting the kind of punishment they deserve.  I know who the old guy is and I also know his Family.  His Family are not to be messed with,  I notified his Grandson of what happened and I am sure the balloon throwers will be spoken to in due course. 

My Uncle is a nice guy, he is sort of an unofficial town mayor. For the last 20 years he has helped around the village organising various things for the village community, as a result he was given an MBE a few years ago and is liked by everyone.  In the past, Kids used to respect him, now the local Kids only give him a hard time.  A few weeks ago I stood chatting to him and we were looking at his new car.  A bunch of local Kids walked past and shouted  " F...ing Snob.....Wanker......f..king old snob..... " at him.  He is 65 years old, the Kids were about 13 years old.  The village he lives is actually a nice place. This would not happen in the past.  I hate the way Britain is going.  Britain used to be a great country and now we are descending fast.  "Britain is going downhill fast".

But life is tickety-boo abroad?

I can't believe folks fail to see the beauty in front of their very eyes.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Sark79 on June 15, 2007, 12:45:33 PM
True, we do have beauty.  Mountains, wildlife, climate, etc. 


 


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 15, 2007, 12:52:33 PM
I really think that if anyone gets the chance they should live abroad for a while.

Makes you appreciate things in your own country a LOT more.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: The_nun on June 15, 2007, 12:55:23 PM
Cyprus was my first ever holiday abroad destination. Mr Nun had travelled far and wide but i was lacking in experience then. I loved it there and have been back to show the kids it's beauty, well when they were kids. I am not really a beach lover but have since been all over including Carribean and like Jame says Cyprus does have some far nicer beaches than there. I also understand what Tikay says too, we do have some wonderful counrtyside in the UK, and when i wake up in the morning fancying a walk,  there is nothing that spurs me on more than the taste of fresh crisp air, which I wouldn't get in a hot country.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Woodsey on June 15, 2007, 01:00:09 PM
I have to say I think our climate is actually pretty good these days, Ok global warming is bad but if I can find a positive then this is it.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tantrum on June 15, 2007, 01:04:44 PM
I agree tikay that the climate of the UK is fantastic, I hate hot climates. 

Climate in the UK fantastic?  Hmmm are u sure about that?
I would not go that far as call it fantastic.  One thing that I miss from my country is clearly defined seasons and proper forests.  When spring arrives it is like the whole world just awoken from the silence, the beautiful colorful autumn, the white winters, ....   hot summers; 4 season climate is the one that is perfect.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 01:29:01 PM
i just think everyone has thier own views.,.,but mine my wife and sons view are lets try something diffrent what have we got to lose .,.,.
im just in the middle of secureing our home for 12 months online with a very nice lady (she may be on here).,.,i will stick up a picture in a min


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 15, 2007, 01:33:22 PM
Good luck with whatever you choose to do ya big mug ..... you are one of lifes survivors, you will make a living anywhere you  decide to put down roots.

There comes a time in everyones lives when they sit back and think about the future for their family and you have to do what you think is right.

All the best.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 01:35:49 PM
this is the new home(we hope)for the next 12-18 months nice detached 2 bedroom villa with a pool AND a jacuzzi pool in the garden 400 yards from the beach.,.,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Rookie (Rodney) on June 15, 2007, 01:36:32 PM
Good luck with whatever you choose to do ya big mug ..... you are one of lifes survivors, you will make a living anywhere you  decide to put down roots.

There comes a time in everyones lives when they sit back and think about the future for their family and you have to do what you think is right.

All the best.

What Kev said... Gl to ya comma king


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 01:37:59 PM
Good luck with whatever you choose to do ya big mug ..... you are one of lifes survivors, you will make a living anywhere you  decide to put down roots.

There comes a time in everyones lives when they sit back and think about the future for their family and you have to do what you think is right.

All the best.
cheers ya double muggggggggg
kev what will you be doing in 10 years ??????lol


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Colchester Kev on June 15, 2007, 01:39:01 PM
Good luck with whatever you choose to do ya big mug ..... you are one of lifes survivors, you will make a living anywhere you  decide to put down roots.

There comes a time in everyones lives when they sit back and think about the future for their family and you have to do what you think is right.

All the best.
cheers ya double muggggggggg
kev what will you be doing in 10 years ??????lol

Coming to Cyprus for a cheap holiday :)


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 01:42:28 PM
Good luck with whatever you choose to do ya big mug ..... you are one of lifes survivors, you will make a living anywhere you  decide to put down roots.

There comes a time in everyones lives when they sit back and think about the future for their family and you have to do what you think is right.

All the best.
cheers ya double muggggggggg
kev what will you be doing in 10 years ??????lol

Coming to Cyprus for a cheap holiday :)
you would be welcome anytime anyplace mate.,.,.,.,.,.
a bit like a MARTINI


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Tonji on June 15, 2007, 02:10:25 PM
All the best to you Sofa, go for it. Take your opportunities & have fun  :)up


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: BigTomatoes on June 15, 2007, 06:34:20 PM

 the house looks fantastic mate , tempting me now , i feel exactly the same about this country but options i thought about were Ireland , Canada or Australia , Ireland is a bit expensive for my income , and the other 2 are the other end of the world , so Cyprus looks quite tempting.

 Good Luck anyway , your only here once.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Geo the Sarge on June 15, 2007, 07:13:12 PM
We do indeed have a fine country. However it has become increasingly more costly to live here and to go around to see and really appreciate all that is around us.

I have been fortunate enough to travel the UK in my early years and have fond memories of York Minster (and stayed at the Royal York Hotel which used to be the station's hotel, am sure Tikay could give us more on this beautiful place.) Hadrians wall, the Peak district and Snowdonia as well as the Highlands of Scotland.

I live in Edinburgh, which, probably outside of London, is the dearest city in the UK. We pay the price for this due to the overwhelming demands of tourism. Every year the local council piles thousands into the festival and for great periods of this time I as a citizen can't even access my normal routes to visit family etc as so much is closed off due to festival activities. Whilst a lot of these activities are really good, it generally costs a fortune and everywhere around increases their prices.

Council tax increases are ridiculous, added to the fact that the facilities are forever decreasing - ie: our rubbish collection is soon to go to every 2 weeks and not weekly, no reduction in council tax though.

And this, IMO is only Scotland's 2nd city.....Glasgow's miles better as the slogan says. The city centre there is as good and as friendly as I've seen.

I don't think anyone here doubts the beauty we have at our doorstep, however it really is getting beyond a joke on the cost side. I for one, would never disagree with anyone wishing to move abroad and indeed know a few retired people who have done just that as they can't afford to live here.

Only my humble opinion

Good luck in all you do James and family.

Geo


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: The_nun on June 15, 2007, 09:01:29 PM
2 Bedroomed you say..I am lost now..which is mine..


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 10:15:54 PM
2 Bedroomed you say..I am lost now..which is mine..
mo,,, if i told you it was detached 2 bedroom 3 bathroom, jacuzzi pool in garden and swiming pool,.,.,.,.,.,..
 400 yds from beach and only £400 a month to rent.,.,.,.,


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: The_nun on June 15, 2007, 10:19:00 PM
James, flight booked , i will sleep in the bath..xx


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: kinboshi on June 15, 2007, 10:20:17 PM
James, flight booked , i will sleep in the bath..xx

Such a tease...  Qh


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: boldie on June 15, 2007, 10:45:09 PM
James, flight booked , i will sleep in the bath..xx

Such a tease...  Qh

yeah..no way she sleeps in the bath when there's a jacuzzi there ;)


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 15, 2007, 11:24:29 PM
James, flight booked , i will sleep in the bath..xx

Such a tease...  Qh

yeah..no way she sleeps in the bath when there's a jacuzzi there ;)
NO BIRD SLEEPS WHILE IM AROUND.,.,.,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: BigTomatoes on June 16, 2007, 07:14:52 AM

 by the looks of it there is no danger of drowning anyway.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: boldie on June 16, 2007, 10:10:01 AM
James, flight booked , i will sleep in the bath..xx

Such a tease...  Qh

yeah..no way she sleeps in the bath when there's a jacuzzi there ;)
NO BIRD SLEEPS WHILE IM AROUND.,.,.,.
my wife has the same problem with me..she says it's the begging that keeps her up :(


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: JungleCat03 on June 16, 2007, 10:32:58 AM
Uk going downhill? You're having a laugh! Come visit brighton. The ultimate seaside location. SO much going for it.

You can go for a swim in the gorgeous brown water, only occasionally having to dodge used johnnies and greasy chip paper.

You can wander along the pristine beaches...golden warm sand is overated, give me a beach covered in pebbles and rocks anyday....

Visit the beautiful landmarks such as "the burnt-down pier." Marvel at the glorious blackened structure, left untouched since it was torched over a decade ago...

Best of all, you cannot beat a night out on the town laughing your head off, watching flushy dance uncoordinatedly with glow sticks. It's all about the glowsticks my friend...

I've been all round the world
From Bradford to Hearn Bay
It's panther, go panther, hit the panther, yo panther
And the rest can go and play
You can't touch this...


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tantrum on June 16, 2007, 10:34:05 AM
We do indeed have a fine country. However it has become increasingly more costly to live here and to go around to see and really appreciate all that is around us.

I have been fortunate enough to travel the UK in my early years and have fond memories of York Minster (and stayed at the Royal York Hotel which used to be the station's hotel, am sure Tikay could give us more on this beautiful place.) Hadrians wall, the Peak district and Snowdonia as well as the Highlands of Scotland.

I live in Edinburgh, which, probably outside of London, is the dearest city in the UK. We pay the price for this due to the overwhelming demands of tourism. Every year the local council piles thousands into the festival and for great periods of this time I as a citizen can't even access my normal routes to visit family etc as so much is closed off due to festival activities. Whilst a lot of these activities are really good, it generally costs a fortune and everywhere around increases their prices.

Council tax increases are ridiculous, added to the fact that the facilities are forever decreasing - ie: our rubbish collection is soon to go to every 2 weeks and not weekly, no reduction in council tax though.

And this, IMO is only Scotland's 2nd city.....Glasgow's miles better as the slogan says. The city centre there is as good and as friendly as I've seen.

I don't think anyone here doubts the beauty we have at our doorstep, however it really is getting beyond a joke on the cost side. I for one, would never disagree with anyone wishing to move abroad and indeed know a few retired people who have done just that as they can't afford to live here.

Only my humble opinion

Good luck in all you do James and family.

Geo


Your post reflects the fact that in the latest survey on quality of life in the world Britain came 29th: the lowest of the 'old' EU country.....



Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Royal Flush on June 18, 2007, 10:27:41 PM
gl with that m8, but watch out with property developement over there, i hear the is a law something along the lines of even when you buy the land and develop it the previous owner can still take it back, not 100 percent about the actual law tho. definetly check it out before you buy any land

agreed, looked into it as well but scared off  by obscure  deeds etc.

agree with ur  sentiment tho sofa, got a place in portugal ready  for a not too far off day  hopefullty........

As long as you are buying in unoccupied Cyprus you are ok, just make sure you buy the trees on your land as well! (really)


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 19, 2007, 12:49:52 AM
gl with that m8, but watch out with property developement over there, i hear the is a law something along the lines of even when you buy the land and develop it the previous owner can still take it back, not 100 percent about the actual law tho. definetly check it out before you buy any land

agreed, looked into it as well but scared off  by obscure  deeds etc.

agree with ur  sentiment tho sofa, got a place in portugal ready  for a not too far off day  hopefullty........

As long as you are buying in unoccupied Cyprus you are ok, just make sure you buy the trees on your land as well! (really)
im not buyiny in the un-occupied area m8.,.,.,
it paralimni,kapparis,10 min from aiya napa(sp)
PROTARIS
the north is the dodgy place ghost towns ive heard.,.,.not going there


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: lazaroonie on June 19, 2007, 12:55:22 AM
We do indeed have a fine country. However it has become increasingly more costly to live here and to go around to see and really appreciate all that is around us.

I have been fortunate enough to travel the UK in my early years and have fond memories of York Minster (and stayed at the Royal York Hotel which used to be the station's hotel, am sure Tikay could give us more on this beautiful place.) Hadrians wall, the Peak district and Snowdonia as well as the Highlands of Scotland.

I live in Edinburgh, which, probably outside of London, is the dearest city in the UK. We pay the price for this due to the overwhelming demands of tourism. Every year the local council piles thousands into the festival and for great periods of this time I as a citizen can't even access my normal routes to visit family etc as so much is closed off due to festival activities. Whilst a lot of these activities are really good, it generally costs a fortune and everywhere around increases their prices.

Council tax increases are ridiculous, added to the fact that the facilities are forever decreasing - ie: our rubbish collection is soon to go to every 2 weeks and not weekly, no reduction in council tax though.

And this, IMO is only Scotland's 2nd city.....Glasgow's miles better as the slogan says. The city centre there is as good and as friendly as I've seen.

I don't think anyone here doubts the beauty we have at our doorstep, however it really is getting beyond a joke on the cost side. I for one, would never disagree with anyone wishing to move abroad and indeed know a few retired people who have done just that as they can't afford to live here.

Only my humble opinion

Good luck in all you do James and family.

Geo


Your post reflects the fact that in the latest survey on quality of life in the world Britain came 29th: the lowest of the 'old' EU country.....



yeah, thats why the UK is the biggest (by far) importer of "people" from other EU countries..cos its so shit to live here....

 ;whistle;


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 19, 2007, 12:59:34 AM
i only think other people from other countries come here is because our silly system lets them exploit our country to the maximum.,.,.,#
i wouldnt think that the uk would be thier first choice .,.,its just our country is to soft on some laws.,.,.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: bolt pp on June 19, 2007, 01:08:31 AM
i only think other people from other countries come here is because our silly system lets them exploit our country to the maximum.,.,.,#
i wouldnt think that the uk would be thier first choice .,.,its just our country is to soft on some laws.,.,.

the systems being exploited, they report it in the news and the daily express every day but I'm willing to put up with that so that the people who have to come here get in.

what's a country anyway? we're all just lodgers, yes there are laws and treaty's and boarders and boundaries and states and governments but most of us couldn't even begin to comprehend the rape, torture, ethnic cleansing and persecution some of these immigrants go through so moaning about derisory sociological problems is a tad silly


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: tikay on June 19, 2007, 01:09:07 AM
i only think other people from other countries come here is because our silly system lets them exploit our country to the maximum.,.,.,#
i wouldnt think that the uk would be thier first choice .,.,its just our country is to soft on some laws.,.,.

Well I am delighted they come here. I don't know who would do the jobs in Hotels & Restaurants that they do so well, otherwise. Most London Hotels are wholly staffed by East Europeans, it seems. And they seem pretty good at Customer Service.

Live & let live.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Royal Flush on June 19, 2007, 01:40:49 AM
Exactly, the problem with this country does not come from Eastern European immigration, 99.9% of those that come here work very hard in poorly paid jobs (that the UK youth think are below them) in order to either build a life here or take the money back with them in a few years time and give their families a better life.

The benefit abusers are the lazy scummy Brits.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Geo the Sarge on June 19, 2007, 04:00:54 AM
i only think other people from other countries come here is because our silly system lets them exploit our country to the maximum.,.,.,#
i wouldnt think that the uk would be thier first choice .,.,its just our country is to soft on some laws.,.,.

Well I am delighted they come here. I don't know who would do the jobs in Hotels & Restaurants that they do so well, otherwise. Most London Hotels are wholly staffed by East Europeans, it seems. And they seem pretty good at Customer Service.

Live & let live.

Sofas post did not mention any nationality directly, and most posts I have seen have been complimentary towards the Eastern European work ethic. I myself have mentioned a couple of times that I have no problem with anyone coming here who are willing to put the effort in and agree 100% with you TK on the service provided by the Eastern Europeans, Edinburgh now has a huge Polish community now and they provide a great service.

With no racist intent meant, unfortunately we cannot say the same for "visitors" from another continent.

The UK is now beginning to suffer as places like France and Spain has suffered for some years now with an increase of immigrants from many African nations. Whilst trying to be careful and not tar all with the same brush, the majority of these people have no intention of working where possible and milk the lax system for all it's worth. Visit most cities and check out the illegal street traders, as abroad, they are predominantly from an African nation. I'm not talking about born in the UK to an African family here.

What further irritates me is the way in which we don't look after our own. A friend of mine, who completed 22 years service in the Army only 3 years ago, underwent a serious operation for emphazema (sp) and had about 3/4 of his lungs removed and has now been registered disabled and cannot work.

It has taken him some 8 months to get accomodation from the local council and during this time was continually offered "bed and breakfast" accommodation for him and his wife, despite awaiting this major op. At one stage they took this offer only to turn up to be told it was a male only hostel. In Edinburgh, most of these "bed and breakfast" places used by the council only accept cases from the council and are a disgrace. They are horrible, smelly places full of druggies and alcoholics. The owners merely supply disgusting rooms and basic meals whilst claiming high rates from the council.

My friend had to rely on the generosity of family and friends to be suitably accommodated during this time. Part of the support given by friends was to keep tabs and locate "available" suitable council accomodation which we would then highlight to the council only to be told they had already been allocated. On one occaision the accommodation was eventually occupied by an immigrant family. This was a 2 bedroom flat allocated to a family of seven!!

When talking to one social worker, he was told quite openly that he was low in "points." When asking how points were alocated he was given the following criteria for gaining extra points:

Amount of time deemed homeless

Are you caring for someone? - deemed no as he cannot care for himself and it was he who was making the application, if his wife wanted to make the application as the main tenant she would have to make a completely new application and start the procees from the beginning.

Do any of them have mental problems, alcohol or drug dependancy?

Are they from an ethnic minority group?

Answer to all of above were no, just an honest guy who has worked all his life and paid his Taxes and National Insurance.

A bit of a long one, which I make no apologies for and God forbid anyone else I know has to go through this.

P.S. If anyone is visiting Edinburgh, especially during the festival, feel free to give me a shout and I'll be able to show you it's not all bad (but it could be so much better) My knowledge of Edinburgh and all it's wee neuks and crannies is fairly good.

Geo




Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Royal Flush on June 19, 2007, 04:15:17 AM

What further irritates me is the way in which we don't look after our own.


What exactly constitutes "our own"


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: Geo the Sarge on June 19, 2007, 04:26:48 AM
Exactly, the problem with this country does not come from Eastern European immigration, 99.9% of those that come here work very hard in poorly paid jobs (that the UK youth think are below them) in order to either build a life here or take the money back with them in a few years time and give their families a better life.

The benefit abusers are the lazy scummy Brits.

It's funny that no-one had actually accused the Eastern Europeans and yet we had a couple of posts defending them.


When I refer to "our own" it's quite simple, someone who has worked and lived in Britain paying their taxes etc and have fallen on lesser times.

Geo.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 19, 2007, 08:36:09 AM
I MUST JUST SAY THAT we are going for a better way of life,.,.,.,
this country really is getting worse and those of you who cant see it.,.,well,.,wait and see.,.,.,
ive just nicked this from another thread.,.,I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY
http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=TheBernardManning


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: marcro on June 19, 2007, 09:32:23 AM
I agree that the quality of life is in decline over here.  My number one concern with living over here is health care.   The time it takes to get medical attention, and then the quality of this attention, has in my opinion become unacceptable.  Going private will shorten the wait period but it still leaves people suffering for too long.  The NHS has become bloated, full of bureaucracy and no longer works.  Fixing this will be a real challenge and I do empathise and sympathise with the good health care professionals that have to worki within this system.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: AndrewT on June 19, 2007, 10:07:37 AM
I was reading something the other day which was about the sort of stuff that Geo was taking about - the welfare state and immigrants. The reason the welfare state works is that, even if you pay your taxes and NI your whole life, but never get ill or infirm or have to claim any benefits, you don't mind paying because a) you could have needed it and, importantly, b) if it's not being used to help you, it's being used to help someone just like you.

Now, in a mostly homogenous society (like, for example, the Nordic countries) this works very well, as virtually everyone is just like everyone else. And, indeed, the Nordic countries are well known for their high levels of taxation and social programmes.

In a country like the United States (which was, and continues to be, built upon immigrants), the welfare state is far less widespread. It is much more of a 'if you can't help yourself then tough' kind of society. As a result, the general population doesn't feel the same resentment towards people who are not like them because they don't feel as if they are funding them as taxation is lower.

Now consider this country. Reknowned throughout the world for its welfare state. A system which was born out of the aftermath of WW2, when everyone had been through the most terrible experience together. There wasn't a person in the country who hadn't been affected by the war - there was a tremendous sense of brotherhood in the population, even towards people you didn't know. Therefore the welfare state worked OK for the reasons outlined in my first paragraph.

The problem recently is that the welfare state is failing (mostly because of the rising number of pensioners and the fact that the ill now require expensive medical treatment, rather than just dying off like they used to). It's falling apart. People who have spent their whole lives 'paying into the system' are realising that they're not going to get helped in their old age. They see people like Geo's friend who are abandoned by the state. And yet when they open the newspapers, what do they read? HIV+ Africans coming into the country purely to get free treatment. Islamic preachers, who spent their lives railing against British culture, getting money through the benefits system.

Whilst these types of cases are (in monetary terms) very, very small (to the point of insignificance), they stick in the mind when someone feels as though the welfare state is letting them down. They see that the money is not being spent on 'people like us' but on 'others', who haven't made any contribution to the system. That's where the resentment comes from.

As Flushy said, most of the money taken 'dishonestly' from the system is by lazy, feckless Brits. But they're not the ones that make the pages of the Sun and the Daily Mail.


Title: Re: ive had it with this country
Post by: sofa----king on June 19, 2007, 11:18:32 AM
I was reading something the other day which was about the sort of stuff that Geo was taking about - the welfare state and immigrants. The reason the welfare state works is that, even if you pay your taxes and NI your whole life, but never get ill or infirm or have to claim any benefits, you don't mind paying because a) you could have needed it and, importantly, b) if it's not being used to help you, it's being used to help someone just like you.

Now, in a mostly homogenous society (like, for example, the Nordic countries) this works very well, as virtually everyone is just like everyone else. And, indeed, the Nordic countries are well known for their high levels of taxation and social programmes.

In a country like the United States (which was, and continues to be, built upon immigrants), the welfare state is far less widespread. It is much more of a 'if you can't help yourself then tough' kind of society. As a result, the general population doesn't feel the same resentment towards people who are not like them because they don't feel as if they are funding them as taxation is lower.

Now consider this country. Reknowned throughout the world for its welfare state. A system which was born out of the aftermath of WW2, when everyone had been through the most terrible experience together. There wasn't a person in the country who hadn't been affected by the war - there was a tremendous sense of brotherhood in the population, even towards people you didn't know. Therefore the welfare state worked OK for the reasons outlined in my first paragraph.

The problem recently is that the welfare state is failing (mostly because of the rising number of pensioners and the fact that the ill now require expensive medical treatment, rather than just dying off like they used to). It's falling apart. People who have spent their whole lives 'paying into the system' are realising that they're not going to get helped in their old age. They see people like Geo's friend who are abandoned by the state. And yet when they open the newspapers, what do they read? HIV+ Africans coming into the country purely to get free treatment. Islamic preachers, who spent their lives railing against British culture, getting money through the benefits system.

Whilst these types of cases are (in monetary terms) very, very small (to the point of insignificance), they stick in the mind when someone feels as though the welfare state is letting them down. They see that the money is not being spent on 'people like us' but on 'others', who haven't made any contribution to the system. That's where the resentment comes from.

As Flushy said, most of the money taken 'dishonestly' from the system is by lazy, feckless Brits. But they're not the ones that make the pages of the Sun and the Daily Mail.
bloody hell this really hurts /./.
I AGREE WITH YOU .,.,.,
there i said it.,.,.,