Title: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 07, 2007, 10:34:08 PM It is only a matter of days now before all the flood support from other countries will come flooding in.
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Dewi_cool on July 08, 2007, 12:12:54 AM yes Wales will be first in we have plenty you can have
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: MPOWER on July 08, 2007, 10:50:18 AM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff
£3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Rooky9 on July 08, 2007, 10:55:58 AM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff £3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M To be fair though people should be insured for their own possessions. The governments only role should be to help speed up the process of returning to normality, and looking after those in extreme cases. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Tinsel Town on July 08, 2007, 10:59:23 AM It is only a matter of days now before all the flood support from other countries will come flooding in. and it's only a matter of time before there is a hose pipe ban... Td Th Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Indestructable on July 08, 2007, 11:22:58 AM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff £3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M To be fair though people should be insured for their own possessions. The governments only role should be to help speed up the process of returning to normality, and looking after those in extreme cases. Agreed, hope us tax payers don't "bail out" those who couldn't be bothered to take out home insurance. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: kinboshi on July 08, 2007, 11:59:44 AM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff £3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M To be fair though people should be insured for their own possessions. The governments only role should be to help speed up the process of returning to normality, and looking after those in extreme cases. Agreed, hope us tax payers don't "bail out" those who couldn't be bothered to take out home insurance. We'll just pay higher insurance premiums to pay for those who do claim on their insurance. We lose either way. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Rooky9 on July 08, 2007, 12:58:10 PM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff £3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M To be fair though people should be insured for their own possessions. The governments only role should be to help speed up the process of returning to normality, and looking after those in extreme cases. Agreed, hope us tax payers don't "bail out" those who couldn't be bothered to take out home insurance. We'll just pay higher insurance premiums to pay for those who do claim on their insurance. We lose either way. but at least one occurs in a competitive market. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Wardonkey on July 08, 2007, 01:12:49 PM The most important thing is making sure that everybody has a habitable home. How it is paid for is a secondary consideration. Moaning about insurance premiums or tax while people are still removing raw sewage from their kitchens seems a little callous to me...
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: K9sixtwo on July 08, 2007, 01:52:26 PM callous maybe... but i pay bloody exorbitant insurance premiums for my home and contents insurance ... so i ..like others object to bailing out those that cant be bothered to take out insurance ... Whats the point of paying insurance if the govt are going to bail out those that cant be bothered to pay it ... there was a single parent family on Telly moaning they couldn't afford the premiums and as a result had lost everything.... Including her 42" Flat screen Sony TV ... Nice to see that she hadn't lost her smokes though ;grr;
Kh 9s Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: Wardonkey on July 08, 2007, 02:14:09 PM So what would you do?
Leave a mother and child on the street? You have to deal with situation at hand. I'm sure she now regrets not paying the insurance. I don't give a toss if it costs you, me or anyone else a few quid in premiums or tax, these people need looking after. I'm not suggesting that you buy her a new telly, just that she needs a clean, dry place to live. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: MPOWER on July 08, 2007, 02:37:44 PM So what would you do? Leave a mother and child on the street? You have to deal with situation at hand. I'm sure she now regrets not paying the insurance. I don't give a toss if it costs you, me or anyone else a few quid in premiums or tax, these people need looking after. I'm not suggesting that you buy her a new telly, just that she needs a clean, dry place to live. No take the child into care. Throw the mother on the street. Regards M Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: RED-DOG on July 08, 2007, 03:05:19 PM Don't you just love comments from people who have either no feelings or no idea what they are talking about.
Regards Tom Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: ifm on July 08, 2007, 03:10:14 PM Is it not classed as a "work of god" and not covered by insurance unless specifically stated "flood damage"?
As for paying tax payers money out it wouldn't bother me one bit, charity begins at home, now all the overseas aid we pay each year is another mater......... Especially the frogs Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: MPOWER on July 08, 2007, 05:04:47 PM Don't you just love comments from people who have either no feelings or no idea what they are talking about. Regards Tom rotflmfao Regards M Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 08:56:39 PM As a country we support so many disasters abroad, now it maybe time to receive a little for a change.
Yes some folk do have insurance others maybe not, due to circumstances. Not everyone on Goverment support are spongers, some in fact have come across hard times and insurance for flood damage is most likley way down on thier list of priorities. I am fortunate enough to not have been flooded but I have in the past had to claim on my insurance for roof damage which caused water in my bedroom, now also, i was fortunate enough to have the funds to replace the goods needed ..ie a bed .. whilst waiting for payout from insurances, not all peeps are. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: b4matt on July 08, 2007, 08:59:52 PM As a country we support so many disasters abroad, now it maybe time to receive a little for a change. The lengths to which mr nun will go to cover up his bed wetting problem...Yes some folk do have insurance others maybe not, due to circumstances. Not everyone on Goverment support are spongers, some in fact have come across hard times and insurance for flood damage is most likley way down on thier list of priorities. I am fortunate enough to not have been flooded but I have in the past had to claim on my insurance for roof damage which caused water in my bedroom, now also, i was fortunate enough to have the funds to replace the goods needed ..ie a bed .. whilst waiting for payout from insurances, not all peeps are. x x Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 09:02:26 PM cheeky...xxx
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 09:04:31 PM And if this is a true fact Matt how the fk do you know..lol
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: boldie on July 08, 2007, 09:14:50 PM As a country we support so many disasters abroad, now it maybe time to receive a little for a change. I love it when I hear stuff like this being spouted by someone who lives in one of the richest countries in the world. Well done on giving support to the people of Africa and to the victims of the Tsunami...I completely understand why they should now start giving you money back...after all, it wasn't like it was charity that was given to some desperately poor people in some desperately poor countries. these people are now well enough off to give a few quid back to the millions of poor people in the UK who struggle to make it through the day, have hardly any food to eat, no power and no electricity on a daily bases. If you want to blame someone for this flood disaster blame your own government; they decided that Britain didn't need reinforced flood defences...vote them out next time and vote someone in who actually gives a crap about the citizens of your underpriviliged country. Of course the tax-payer will end up paying for the poor sods who have lost their houses and possesions through this. It is only right..it is after all the tax-payer, through their elected government that led them down in the first place. blah, I'm off to sit in a corner of my room now with the telly switched off...I can't bear to watch the images of poor starving people who have lost their sneakers and 42" flat screen telly anymore.., and other people complaining about how other countries need to bail them out instead of their own government, it's F'ing heart-breaking it truly is. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: b4matt on July 08, 2007, 09:20:24 PM And if this is a true fact Matt how the fk do you know..lol Sigh i confess i was on your roof doing some repair work (i deny any accusations of stalking and spying) when i accidentally broke some tiles and scarpered.... I'll be round in the morning to fix it... what time does mr nun leave ;sark; ::) ;whistle; Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 09:35:12 PM As a country we support so many disasters abroad, now it maybe time to receive a little for a change. I love it when I hear stuff like this being spouted by someone who lives in one of the richest countries in the world. Well done on giving support to the people of Africa and to the victims of the Tsunami...I completely understand why they should now start giving you money back...after all, it wasn't like it was charity that was given to some desperately poor people in some desperately poor countries. these people are now well enough off to give a few quid back to the millions of poor people in the UK who struggle to make it through the day, have hardly any food to eat, no power and no electricity on a daily bases. If you want to blame someone for this flood disaster blame your own government; they decided that Britain didn't need reinforced flood defences...vote them out next time and vote someone in who actually gives a crap about the citizens of your underpriviliged country. Of course the tax-payer will end up paying for the poor sods who have lost their houses and possesions through this. It is only right..it is after all the tax-payer, through their elected government that led them down in the first place. blah, I'm off to sit in a corner of my room now with the telly switched off...I can't bear to watch the images of poor starving people who have lost their sneakers and 42" flat screen telly anymore.., and other people complaining about how other countries need to bail them out instead of their own government, it's F'ing heart-breaking it truly is. nice post..what can i say apart from ..your right.. i have no right to say owt of my opinions. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 09:37:17 PM I didn't mean from countries like those like you mentioned ..do you really think i am so uneducated to think that?
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: boldie on July 08, 2007, 09:43:17 PM I didn't mean from countries like those like you mentioned ..do you really think i am so uneducated to think that? Nothing personal nun, I've just been sitting with people all day who were spouting this stuff and it really gets on my tits. The UK is the 5th largest economy in the world for crying out loud, this should have been sorted immediatly and I can not understand that people in the UK aren't completely outraged with the government over this one. I'm just in a bad mood today, sorry if I ticked you off it was certainly not my intention. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 08, 2007, 09:45:10 PM No need for apology.. you are entitled to your opinion.x
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: bolt pp on July 08, 2007, 10:09:01 PM Just read the Government are giving £10m to rebuilding public stuff £3m going to roads and there's £1m going to the victims! to replace there lost possesions, whats all that about? Regards M To be fair though people should be insured for their own possessions. The governments only role should be to help speed up the process of returning to normality, and looking after those in extreme cases. Agreed, hope us tax payers don't "bail out" those who couldn't be bothered to take out home insurance. lol, i dont think it's just about them not being bothered, a lot of those affected came from housing estates, single parent families and people in low income jobs that couldn't even think about affording home insurance so it's unfair to make a sweeping statement about people not being bothered, a lot of comments on this thread are ignorant and i'm embarrassed to associate my self with them. Of course the tax payer should foot the bill to help out those less fortunate in these instances because wars, civil and international, have been fought to preserve this democratic system of government. This obligation of the taxpayer is the reason why a Hitler regime isn't currently running around killing those with brown hair and a lower than average IQ, which would you prefer? Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: wader leg on July 08, 2007, 11:19:04 PM Of course the tax payer should foot the bill to help out those less fortunate in these instances because wars, civil and international, have been fought to preserve this democratic system of government. This obligation of the taxpayer is the reason why a Hitler regime isn't currently running around killing those with brown hair and a lower than average IQ, which would you prefer? Why should taxpayers fork out to replace peoples expensive leisure items? Maybe they have a car but can't afford the insurance, should we pay for that too ? Home contents insurance usually includes fire, theft and flood damage, if you make a lifestyle choice not to pay for this then it's your own fault, it's only about £3 a week on average. Maybe there are genuine hardship cases out there but the people I've seen bleating on television didn't look like they were that hard up, if they are then maybe an interest free loan would be the way to go. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: kinboshi on July 09, 2007, 11:31:41 AM Wasn't aid money sent to the US in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina?
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: boldie on July 09, 2007, 11:41:56 AM Wasn't aid money sent to the US in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina? yes, the UK sent ration packs to the states (though many of them couldn't actually be accepted due to laws on exports because of the foot and mouth disease) as well as some experts that were sent over....I think the total amount of monenary value from the aid sent by the UK government was about 3-4mill$ I don't quite think it's fair to compare the damage done by Hurricane Katrina to what's going on in England at the moment, but OK. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: kinboshi on July 09, 2007, 11:57:48 AM Wasn't aid money sent to the US in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina? yes, the UK sent ration packs to the states (though many of them couldn't actually be accepted due to laws on exports because of the foot and mouth disease) as well as some experts that were sent over....I think the total amount of monenary value from the aid sent by the UK government was about 3-4mill$ I don't quite think it's fair to compare the damage done by Hurricane Katrina to what's going on in England at the moment, but OK. Wasn't comparing it, just asking the question. Also how the US government acted after Katrina was nothing short of scandalous. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: matt674 on July 09, 2007, 12:57:45 PM Appararently GHMC - Ethiopia's main TV network, have just started a 24 hour tele-thon to raise money for the poor and needy in Yorkshire. Rumour has it they stand to raise somewhere in the region of £15-£20 to more than treble the current amount of money raised here in the UK........
scary to say it but i'm with boldie on this one, the only thing most people have lost in this flood have been material possessions that can easily be replaced - most of the countries we've been supplying aid to in recent years, their occupants wonder from one day to the next whether there will be a next day or not. Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: AndrewT on July 09, 2007, 01:01:21 PM It could be a long wait - there are people who are yet to move back into their homes from the floods in Carlisle two and a half years ago.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6283664.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cumbria/6283664.stm) Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: The_nun on July 09, 2007, 01:05:33 PM I really do feel for them. OK them who have money in the bank will be fine, but them poor buggers who are not so fortunate, it must be terrible.
Title: Re: Flood Support Post by: madasahatstand on July 09, 2007, 06:03:11 PM So what would you do? good post !!!!Leave a mother and child on the street? You have to deal with situation at hand. I'm sure she now regrets not paying the insurance. I don't give a toss if it costs you, me or anyone else a few quid in premiums or tax, these people need looking after. I'm not suggesting that you buy her a new telly, just that she needs a clean, dry place to live. |