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Hi all. I fancy a wager on this one.
Who do you think will fiinish highest outwith the top 4?
Looks like Spurs are the team. I would not touch Newcastle
with a barge pole but both of these teams are annual underachievers.
Anyone fancy an outsider?
 Td Th


Barclays Premiership Winner w/o Big 4, 2007/08 - Win Outright (Saturday August 11th, 15:00)    
Tottenham 11/8     West Ham 18/1  
   Newcastle 5/1     Portsmouth 20/1  
   Aston Villa 7/1     Reading 25/1  
   Everton 8/1     Middlesboro 25/1  
   Blackburn 14/1     Fulham 80/1  
   Man City 18/1     Wigan 100/1  
   Bolton 18/1     Birmingham 100/1  
   Sunderland 18/1  

tottenham

Sunderland 18/1!!!  rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

bburn valoooooo

Yeah they are only slight bit of value I see there.  Spurs should win this though and 11/8 looks a fair price.  Prices on Villa and Sunderland are silly

Theres the valoo boys.

arsenal will finish 5th this year maybe 6th but i think they will get 5th

Who's got a barge pole?

seriously, Tottenham looking good tbh

Newcastle, if they pull it together with big Sam might get 6th

Arsenal for 5th maybe 6th.. Spurs looking good a Jol is building a good English squad there..
I fancy Newcastle to maybe do something, but not sure if they can break into the top 6 though..

Spurs should do it but price is waaaay to short.

Only value I see is Everton at 8/1

Okay... I'm on Newcastle. I can't help myself. Every May I am dissapointed at under achievement and every July I'm back expecting the world again!!! I have thought about it this year and if we avoid any major injuries I think we stand a really good chance. We did the double over Spurs last year (though they did absolutely batter us at there place for twenty minutes). I think Dawson is shakey at the back and I dont think tottenhams midfield does enough (with the exception of lennon at times). They plugged the biggest hole at left back but hopefully the combination of reliance on Berb and the rotation of the other strikers will restrict them over the season.

Obviously we need a top left back and another centre back but with that then I do fancy us for it. We have every type of midfielder and a set of striking 4 as good as any in the league - though as with tottenham, i'm not sure how you keep 4 top strikers happy!

Roll on August 11!!!

everton should get this ,there a class side without injuries .

8/1 get on

Newcastle United.

They have a couple of signings in the pipe line; and they have bought very well already this close season.

Arse, Liverpool, Spurs and Newcastle will all be challenging for 3rd/4th next season.

Value is Portsmouth surely?

Spurs too short, Everton not investing, Newcastle may continue to be hit and miss until both the squad is as Big Sam wants it and the players gel

 ;iagree;  Owen stays fit and Martins stops going AWOL they'll do well.

You cheeky Geordie!

Man4Man Spurs' squad is far superior to yours!

Across a 16 I think its fairly even - 22 your right. Your lacking a top class keeper!!  ;hide;
It'll probably come down to how good the three or four more to come into Newcastle are and how we adapt Big Sam's grit in away games.

Across 16 - LOL!

Only Given and Owen get into Spurs' starting XI.

Maybe Duff or Zog..

Forget Butt, Dyer or Barton ahead of Zokora, Lennon and Jenas.

Owen is class. But this season is make or break; does he still have it...?

yeah he has, just needs to keep injury free

I have to dissagree
I'd much rather have barton than zokora, as a footballer he is pretty class and zok had a bot of a dissapointing season, I'd much rather have dyer than Jenas aswel, to be fair, i reckon i'd only take Lennon, but even then Duff is just as good if not better when he gets into gear

Charlton Athletic

Zokora/Butt = Zokora

Dyer/Lennon = Lennon

Jenas/Barton = Jenas

Gotta pick Barton over Jenas Nem,  Promised so much years ago but is just plain average now.

Last season Jenas scored more goals than Barton, was injured more, never took the clubs penalties and was in the England squad more /won more caps.

No brainer!

edit: It was no coincidence that as soon as Jenas got back from injury, Spurs' were the 2nd most inform team from February>end of the season.

How is beyond me really.

You simply do not know how good he is.

He isn't Kaka, but I would take him over any Newcastle CM.

Fair point about not knowing how good he is, Not seen as much of him play as you, But from what i have seeni 've not been overly impressed.

He is definitely a player you would "love to hate" I've been there; done that already.

But the stats speak for themselves. He is still only 24 and if he develops his game late; like Lampard, then he will become a very good Midfield player.

I'd have Berb and King in our team from Tottenham, thats it - but I think thats because I don't see much between the 16's. If I see a Tottenham team sheet with Jenas in it against Newcastle I am pleased.

LOL

Well.
Looks like the Spurs v Newcastle fixtures should be tasty this year. :-)

To me Spurs look far stronger and will probably finish at least fourth ( maybe higher)

The odds are not the best though so I'm with Tighty here. Portsmouth.
I've just noticed that Sky are offering E/W at 1/4 the odds . So by my reckoning ( and it may be wrong)
that's them giving me 5/1 on Pompey finishing in the top 7!!

Seems good value to me considering the players they have brought in.

 Td Th

"spurs are annual underachievers"

Absoloutely right. they only finished fifth for the last two seasons!

Perhaps he meant perennial or habitual, and if it weren't for lasagna.....

If you'd have asked a Tottenham fan if they though they had a stronger team than newcastle at the start of the season for XX (a lot!)  years they would probably have said yes...but (with the W or L's being orientated to Newcastle)

2006/07
Home - W 3-1
Away - W 3-2

2005/06
Home - W 3-1
Away - L 2-0

2004/05
FA cup - W 1-0
H - L 1-0
A - L 1-0

2003/04
H - W 4-0
A - L 1-0

2002/03
H - W 2-1
A - W 1-0

2001/02
H - L 2-0
A - W 3-1

2000/01
H - W 2-0
A - L 2-4

Total - Played 15. Won 9, Lost 6. For 26, Against 16.

I won't go back to our 7-1 hammering of them that caused Kegan to resign!!!

The draw doesnt really look like a good bet, thats for sure!!!!

Rooky,

I think you are being rather short sighted BRINGING UP RECENT HISTORY!!!!!!!1111111

17 years ago you were getting 15k< at homes games

you haven't won a MAJOR trophy in APPROXIMATELY 409 YEARS!!!!!!!!!11

Love you really ;)

both teams are bottle merchants, of that there is no doubt.

We can go back to when records began, and show that Newcastle actually do have one of the best records in football in terms of honours, there are only a handful of teams that of won the FA cup more times than us! And lets face it, if you haven't won anything in the last couple of seasons then what does it matter when it was won - its all about when the next one you win is!

17 years ago we may have been getting smaller crowds, but why stop at 17 years ago? Lets go 40 - and see 60,000 crowds!!! Not sure why attendance dropped - may have been something to do with half the male population being unemployed when coal and ship building died on its arse!! We've had three million more people than Tottenham through our gates since records began, 5 million more than Chelseas - that'll do for me!

Love you too

there are only a handful of teams that of won the FA cup more times than us!


And Spurs are one of those.

Newcastle are a moderate side and will certainly struggle under the less than moderate Allardyce. He will find managing an "in the spotlight" club a lot tougher than his previous job where expectations were zero.

Statistics can be massaged to prove almost any theory. The league table doesnt lie, except in the case of West Ham, and teams finish where they deserve.

Write to me next May please.

I never once claimed that Newcastle had won it more times than Spurs - just dispelling the usually theories.

If you let me know what I'm writing to you about net May I'll be more than happy to do so.

Your middle paragraph is off the mark. I'm not a massive Big Sam fan but you can see the level of detail in his management alone shows him to be one of the best around, only time (and it may take a couple of years) will show what he is like at 'a club in the spot light'.

A fully fit midfield and attack matches pretty much anything in the league.

Teams can very easily finish above or below where there relative ability would put them. A season is only 38 games - variance, luck, injury doesnt alway even over a season.  Having said that I'm pretty happy to accept that its the best method to judge that there is.

In my book, achievement = trophies!!

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Yeah and we have won 10 since Newcastle last won their Fairs cup which was an invite only cup, itself a mickey mouse trophy. ;)

Spurs cup team, Newcastle not even that.

I'll officially withdraw my post about 5th if we dont get hold of at least one quality centre back and a left back. The lad playing left back is a league one standard centre back and we'll get battered every game he plays sadly. Having said that the pre season goals (and results) have been encouraging, with 40million worth of starting line up missing too.

 ;whistle;

Man I love watching spurs get pwned.

Why?

Man City now 12 to 1 and we have only won one game. Some fans already have their passports ready for europe next year.  :D

It's because I know so many spurs fans that rattle on like their a decent team who have won stuff. They have spent so much money to stay in the same place in the league.

At least we never did a Leeds.

Your only 36 games awat from it  ;)

Yes this is all about Leeds :)

Correction 30.....

Unfortunately I think this could be the last game for Jol.

One very big (literally) common factor between Leeds and Tottenham. I think he has just cost his boss his job. Said it a few times now but he isnt even in the top 5 English keepers anymore.

lifeline Keane scores 3-4

4-4 - excellent comeback.

Yeah, that point might keep them up at the end of the year....

Quarter of the season review....


.....28

I was worried when I saw Robinson wasn't going to be playing but it didn't seem to make much of a difference!

Would you like to see a first draft before May?