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Title: What do you do here?
Post by: RioRodent on July 22, 2007, 09:10:36 AM
POKERSTARS GAME #11061993426: TOURNAMENT #51604458, $20+$2 HOLD'EM NO LIMIT - LEVEL XVII (4000/8000) - 2007/07/21 - 19:30:27 (ET)
Table '51604458 15' 9-max Seat #3 is the button
Seat 1: FTMLS (435653 in chips)
Seat 3: duke3016 (99939 in chips)
Seat 4: smacl02 (292248 in chips)
Seat 9: TOOL ON TOUR (37160 in chips)
FTMLS: posts the ante 400
duke3016: posts the ante 400
smacl02: posts the ante 400
TOOL ON TOUR: posts the ante 400
smacl02: posts small blind 4000
TOOL ON TOUR: posts big blind 8000
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to smacl02 [Kd Kh]
FTMLS: raises 8000 to 16000
duke3016: folds
smacl02: raises 24000 to 40000
TOOL ON TOUR: calls 28760 and is all-in
FTMLS: raises 395253 to 435253 and is all-in

The payout structure is -
1st $1038
2nd $692
3rd $411
4th $277

Not much info on FTMLS, but a few hands previous he had re-raised all-in with AQs...


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: doubleup on July 22, 2007, 09:22:24 AM

Although the variance is not what you would want, you have to call this.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: boldie on July 22, 2007, 09:56:53 AM
very tricky but call. At first I thought it's an easy call this but seeing the other two chipstacks you could easily argue the fold. If CL takes both of you out you still get third so that's fine..if the shortstack has the aces you will probably win the side pot which is bigger than your chipstack currently is.


It's a call.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: JSRossi on July 22, 2007, 10:06:47 AM
Got to call !

Probably find an under pair and AT .... fingers crossed and start counting your winnings !!


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: kinboshi on July 22, 2007, 01:04:53 PM
Ouch.  Looking at the result, you called and you didn't survive, and it looked like the short-stack won the hand, and the big stack the side pot. 

Can you lay down kings here?  I don't think I could.  You win the hand, and you're chip leader and it's down to the last three. 

Good effort to get into that position in the first place - do you always final table? ;D



Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: RioRodent on July 22, 2007, 01:26:55 PM
Yes... indeed I did call, I wanted to fold, I 'knew' that FTMLS had Aces, but it was half-past midnight and I had had enough really. I figured that only one of them could beat me and at worst I get 3rd place, $450 and a bronze medal. As it was I took $277 for 4th place!! The remainder of the HH...

smacl02: calls 251848 and is all-in
*** FLOP *** [2d 8h 6s]
*** TURN *** [2d 8h 6s] [4h]
*** RIVER *** [2d 8h 6s 4h] [2h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
smacl02: shows [Kd Kh] (two pair, Kings and Deuces)
FTMLS: shows [Ad Ahrt] (two pair, Aces and Deuces)
FTMLS collected 510176 from side pot
TOOL ON TOUR: shows [8c 8d] (a full house, Eights full of Deuces)
TOOL ON TOUR collected 111880 from main pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 622056 Main pot 111880. Side pot 510176. | Rake 0
Board [2d 8h 6s 4h 2h]
Seat 1: FTMLS showed [Ad Ahrt] and won (510176) with two pair, Aces and Deuces
Seat 3: duke3016 (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: smacl02 (small blind) showed [Kd Kh] and lost with two pair, Kings and Deuces
Seat 9: TOOL ON TOUR (big blind) showed [8c 8d] and won (111880) with a full house, Eights full of Deuces


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: boldie on July 22, 2007, 03:25:06 PM
tough beat but unlucky and not a lot you can do...except not have had enough obviously.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: Tragic on July 22, 2007, 03:25:55 PM
That is really really horrible but I would never pass there.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: bhoywonder on July 22, 2007, 03:51:00 PM
u know that we know that he knows ...in fact we all know,he has aces

but ur still calling...damn


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: RioRodent on July 22, 2007, 04:10:22 PM
u know that we know that he knows ...in fact we all know,he has aces

but ur still calling...damn

Well... I never claimed to be any good at this game! Just get a bit lucky every now and then.  :dontask:


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: temp0r on July 22, 2007, 04:54:24 PM
never a pass. just a great opportunity to take control of the tournament really. tough break.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: AlexMartin on July 24, 2007, 03:03:47 PM
Insta call, dont get how this is a tough decision tbh. Payout structure need not be considered a factor here, its way too steep.


Title: Re: What do you do here?
Post by: Nem on July 24, 2007, 05:56:16 PM
Folding KK here is terrible