Title: A suitable range Post by: TightEnd on July 31, 2007, 07:01:25 PM You are playing a 45 runner SNG and 7 places are paid
the structure is fast, 5 minute turbo blind increases there are 9 left blinds are 300-600 with a 25 ante you have 9,300, 6th in chips the three shorter stacks have 5,000 ish and 8,000, you can raise into them the way the seat distribution has occurred on your immediate right the chip leader with 21,000. Each time it is folded to him he moves all in and so far he has not had to show a hand. He only came to your table as the final started. The last two times it has come round to him in the SB he has done the same to you in the BB, with no hand you fold prize money for 7th is 1.6x the buy in, rising to 12x for first, with money that would make the whole experience a useful exercise starting at 4th What range of hands do you need to call all-in against this serial pusher? Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: AlexMartin on July 31, 2007, 07:32:22 PM 88+/ AQ. Im not a fan of calling here.
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: temp0r on July 31, 2007, 10:36:02 PM AJ+ / 99+
this is gonna look strange compared to the above post i know but it would take me a million years to explain why. its mathematical or something. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Compo on July 31, 2007, 10:50:54 PM Any 2
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Longy on July 31, 2007, 11:05:14 PM If he is literally opening 100% of hands i would say it is something like a10 66+, you are not on the bubble and this structure means that bubbling is not as significant as a 50/30/20. This is not the actual bubble either.
As an aside calling with pairs like 88 and 99 is superior to ak in this situation against atc as hand like 7 high are in real trouble against pair but not against ak. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Tragic on July 31, 2007, 11:06:25 PM 23 + / 33 +
This is gonna look strange compared to the above post but that's because i'm being facetious. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: TightEnd on July 31, 2007, 11:11:59 PM 23 + / 33 + This is gonna look strange compared to the above post but that's because i'm being facetious. ;D thanks..I'll be first in line for the poker book!! Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Graham C on July 31, 2007, 11:39:07 PM Any ace, any pocket pair 7's and up.
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: kinboshi on August 01, 2007, 11:06:54 AM http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=19355.0
I had a very similar issue. It's an interesting one. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Tragic on August 01, 2007, 05:45:54 PM Hmph ok seriously AT+ 77+ but i'm quite loose when i'm getting irritated by mentalists. I'd rather call, win, take the initiative and dominate. Or call, get owned, lose, and bugger off home.
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: BigTomatoes on August 03, 2007, 12:50:21 AM 88+/ AQ. Im not a fan of calling here. i am a fan of calling with these hands , if you are ahead and you hold up , you are in a good position to cash or win Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: UpTheMariners on August 03, 2007, 01:40:18 AM what do you think is a reasonable roi % playing these type of tournaments 45 player turbos which last about an hour?
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: boldie on August 03, 2007, 08:35:48 AM I can't believe how tight you guys all are here.
I start calling with a decent King..hell even King7 or King8 (preferably suited but if not than not) will do. What do you guys think Serial pusher has? Any King with a 7+ kicker is likely to be ahead more often than it's not and therefore uyou simply have to call and try to get yourself some chips. This is not the time to freeze-up, let the guys know that when they're autopushing they will be called by you. If you do that the first time and win they will think twice before doing it again..especially on your BB. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: TightEnd on August 03, 2007, 11:09:54 AM what do you think is a reasonable roi % playing these type of tournaments 45 player turbos which last about an hour? dunno good question.... low I would think is the likely outcome, its quick and then push/fold poker from quite a way out..need a fair amount of luck Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: kinboshi on August 03, 2007, 11:19:32 AM I can't believe how tight you guys all are here. I start calling with a decent King..hell even King7 or King8 (preferably suited but if not than not) will do. What do you guys think Serial pusher has? Any King with a 7+ kicker is likely to be ahead more often than it's not and therefore uyou simply have to call and try to get yourself some chips. This is not the time to freeze-up, let the guys know that when they're autopushing they will be called by you. If you do that the first time and win they will think twice before doing it again..especially on your BB. I think the point is that if you do it the first time and lose, you're out. With K7o for example, you're risking your tournament survival on hand when you are 60/40 favourite at best. Of course, it depends on the situation and the stack sizes, etc., but I want to be pushing first rather than calling all-in if I can help it. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: UpTheMariners on August 03, 2007, 12:01:24 PM surely you would want your money in 60-40 at least (rather than at best), therefore you cant call with a hand like k7. my range is 88/aj+
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: boldie on August 03, 2007, 12:24:09 PM The guy who keeps pushing all in blind is seated immediatly to your right..so every unopened pot he will push, this leaves you with no opportinuty to do the raising to nick the blinds in the first place.
You don't have a lot of chips left, admittedly 3 rounds before you start to get in trouble so you could wait for a decent hand for a while, if the guy pushes in late position and I find myself on the button or BB/SB and think the other two will fold I'll take that 60-40 shot any day of the week. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: BigTomatoes on August 03, 2007, 05:51:49 PM I can't believe how tight you guys all are here. I start calling with a decent King..hell even King7 or King8 (preferably suited but if not than not) will do. What do you guys think Serial pusher has? Any King with a 7+ kicker is likely to be ahead more often than it's not and therefore uyou simply have to call and try to get yourself some chips. This is not the time to freeze-up, let the guys know that when they're autopushing they will be called by you. If you do that the first time and win they will think twice before doing it again..especially on your BB. so you call with K7 and he has K9 ?? you call with K 10 he has A2 ?? the point here is to wait for a solid enough hand where you are fairly confident you are ahead , and even if you are not , you have a hand which is worthy of the call , tbh a King with no kicker doesn't do it for me . wait for a better spot than K high. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Tragic on August 04, 2007, 03:08:46 PM There is significantly more to be made if you DO happen to win a K8 call though. Sometimes you are out yep life goes on but the message of - I called you with K8, get the hell off my blind and nobody bluff me i'm a bloody nutter will help you go on to win the tournament alot of the time.
Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: boldie on August 04, 2007, 03:45:01 PM There is significantly more to be made if you DO happen to win a K8 call though. Sometimes you are out yep life goes on but the message of - I called you with K8, get the hell off my blind and nobody bluff me i'm a bloody nutter will help you go on to win the tournament alot of the time. that waz indeed my point :) your table image from that stage onwards means noone will dare mess with you again without a premium holding. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: Tragic on August 04, 2007, 03:47:41 PM There is significantly more to be made if you DO happen to win a K8 call though. Sometimes you are out yep life goes on but the message of - I called you with K8, get the hell off my blind and nobody bluff me i'm a bloody nutter will help you go on to win the tournament alot of the time. that waz indeed my point :) your table image from that stage onwards means noone will dare mess with you again without a premium holding. Yeah sorry I was just reiterating your wisdom to help enlighten the masses :P. Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: boldie on August 04, 2007, 03:50:34 PM There is significantly more to be made if you DO happen to win a K8 call though. Sometimes you are out yep life goes on but the message of - I called you with K8, get the hell off my blind and nobody bluff me i'm a bloody nutter will help you go on to win the tournament alot of the time. that waz indeed my point :) your table image from that stage onwards means noone will dare mess with you again without a premium holding. Yeah sorry I was just reiterating your wisdom to help enlighten the masses :P. lol..thanks mate...I'm just happy someone doesn't think I'm an idiot for calling with K8 :) Title: Re: A suitable range Post by: AlexMartin on August 04, 2007, 04:11:28 PM Depends how crapshooty its become, but i like to combine fold equity with a decent holding when i play big pots.
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