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Talk about inflation !  :dontask:




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If he's worth £9m and Darren Bent is worth more than Henry the transfer market has finally gone mad !!

This is even a step on from £6m for Glen Johnson .......... Abramovich mistake numero uno !

I hate to say it but the guy is a proper talent though. I wouldn't have paid 9 mill for him but he's worth a few bob

Yes, £9m is too much for him but you have to look at that fee and consider the other transfers that have gone on in the Premiership this season. Consider some of the other transfers that have went on in the same kind of bracket (say 6-9m) this year and then decide if its so bad.

The English Premiership is the only league in the world where almost every team can fork out mega bucks on players.

But do they really pay £9 mill, or does that include the players salary for the duration of the Contract?

£9mil (usually a bit less up front, the total depending on appearances/success of the club etc). Players wages are on top.

Good grief!

A decent players academy (we used to call them "youth schemes") would be a better investment I'd have thought. Burnley used to make a living out of their Youth Scheme. That was a year or two ago, mind.

That's exactly what Hearts have done. 9 million for a product of their youth academy is a pretty good return.

Dougie.

Indeed.

Think it was qouted somewhere as £6m up front with the rest in add-ons.

That would have been when Bob Lord was their chairman, ruled with an iron fist too.

4th highest fee paid for a goalkeeper  ;gobsmacked;

If Craig Gordon is worth 9 million what are McGreggor and Boruc worth?

I'd say Boruc was a better goalie than Gordon and there ain't much in it between Greegs and Gordon.

chick young claimed that man city were entering the bidding adding kasper scmiechel to the deal hearts already expressed an intrest in kasper so the bid could fly

for a player coming out of the scottish league 9 million is alot of money but if he was already playing in the premiership it would take nearly twice that to move him the guy has talent and could be the best goalie in the league this season

He's not that good.

There are a number of goalies in the EPL who are better than him.  He's not even the best goalie on Scotland.

he is by far the best goalie in scotland

and he will be top 3 best goalies in the EPL

although peter cech is streets ahead of anyone else
colin will be up there with the rest of them

I agree, he's MILES ahead of any goalie in scotland..noone comes close to the talent he has.
When he goes to the EPL he'll be top 5 when on form, he can't touch VD Sar, Czech and Reina yet..but give him a few years and I'm sure he will be very good if he keeps working hard and is properly managed.
It also has to be a good thing for the Scottish National side that he moves to the EPL as he'll pick up a lot from playing against top class opposition.

Do you guys actually watch Scottish football on a regular basis?

Boldie do you deriously believe that Gordon is better than Boruc?

he is much better than boruc

remember boruc had the advantage of a better defence around him than gordon which helps make him look better

but as an ex goalie myself (ok nothing past my company team in the army) i think gordon is miles better than boruc

I have to say I do..he's  the most talented out of those two. Like Ironside sayd Gordon doesn't have as good a defense (or midfield for that matter) in front of him as Boruc but as far as quality goes he's ahead of him. (Not calling Boruc a mug though as he's not a bad goalie at all)

Got to agree with Iron and Boldie,

Craig Gordon has played consistently well with a poor defence in front of him. As well as all the trauma of the ongoing troubles at Tynecastle the young lad has shown quality.

Geo

Granted he has done well in the SPL but he has hardly come up against any top opposition has he?

Boruc showed his class in the Champions League last year where he was arguably Celtic's best and most consistent player.  And he also showed in the World Cup of 2006 what a top class goalie he is.

IMO he is by far a more complete goalkeeper.  As for defences, Celtic's defence hardly fulls you with confidence.

The defence is the one are in our team that has been lacking since Strachan took over.

gordon has done the deeds in the international games he has played in

i would much rather have the celtic back 4 in front of me than the hearts 4

Good point, well made.

Gordon is a decent keeper but 9mill for him is an amazing piece of business for Hearts. I don't think he's been truly tested at the top level & I'm not sure if hes got the temprament to handle it.

This is a wee bit cheeky but this how Celtic fans will always remember him  ;whistle;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQIzqXMYhd8

teacake why not take a look at this video instead

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEWHEKs4d4s

So how come none of the top SIX English premier league clubs was interested in him ?

Even Jol who pays over the odds for almost anyone wasn't in for him  ::)

lets see who know the player from the EPL

martin o'neil managed celtic saw colin first hand for a number of seasons

bid 9 million

roy keane played in the spl for a season was impressed enough to make him no 1 target

bid 9 million


sven goran erkinson in need of a goalie

bid rummoured at 10 million + kasper schmiecheal


of the rest 9 million for a player coming out of the scottish league is un heard of and wouldnt fancy going to there chairman asking for 50% more than any otehr player transfered out the scottish league and 100% more than any player not coming out the old firm for an experianced proved goal scorer never minf an inexperianced goal keeper

If hes that good why do you keep calling him Colin?

good keeper, £9m seems a double his value though.
im glad to see that much money go into the lithuanian scottish game,  ;whistle;

It may be £9m but if he's as good as we all think he is, he's worth it. In fact, he might be worth a lot more.

I think he's one of the top 8 keepers in the EPL, which is where we want to be.

Sunderland now badly need a premier-league quality striker. Prices come to something when you are talking about paying a combined £11m for Mido and Chopra!!! Kerist knows we are going to need the best keeper we can attract to the club next season because we ain't going to be scoring many...

Says it all really - I'm sure he's a good keeper but Cech went to Chelsea for 7m (yes Chelsea who overspend on everyone!) and Reina came to us for 8m (also overpriced IMHO).

He's probably worth 4-5m at most.

Video of what ? A goalkeeper making saves ? Whats next, a video of a bricklayer building a wall ?

All goalies make saves. Its their job. It is probably the least technical part of their job. Dealing with low/high crosses, organising set pieces, shouting at defenders, one on ones,  positioning at crosses, are all equally as important.

A shotstopper does not a good goalkeeper make.

Gordon has the potential to be as good as Boruc, he may even play in the champions league one day.

comedian, if boruc was sooooooooo good why has keane bought gordon?, are you trying to tell me celtic wouldnt sell for 9 million? or that boruc wouldnt move for double or treble wages? so why would keane buy gordon over boruc, unless duh duh duh, gordon is infact better.

p.s. hes better than reina as well

Is that the keeper who is consistently up there with the most clean sheets in the Premiership?

You honestly think Boruc would sign for Sunderland when both AC Milan and Barca were sniffing around him at the end of last season ? I fully expect Boruc to leave sooner rather than later, but I can pretty much guarantee it wont be to play for a club that will be fighting relegation. Likewise I dont expect Gordon to be there for more than 2-3 years before he gets his big move, if his progression continues as it is.

My point is the same - Gordon at age 22? has the potential to be a world class keeper. At present Boruc has played in CL matches, world cups, etc.

Answer this question - if your team was playing the CL FInal today and you were given a choice between playing Boruc or Gordon in goal, which one would you choose ?

He damn well should be - he's playing behind one of the three defences who are miles better than anyone else. And he isn't top of that group of three goalkeepers.

Well, I keep hearing that there are better right-backs than Finnan; better left-backs than Riise, better centre-back partnerships than Carragher and Agger, and yet in 2005/06 we kept the most clean sheets, and in 2006/07 we were second only to chelsea in clean sheets in the Premiership.  If it's not the keeper, then I guess we're just very lucky.

Cech and Reina are only 25 and 24 respectively - so as goalkeepers go, they're still fairly young as well.  Barring injuries, they should both have another 10 years at the highest level - possibly?

Gordon is 24 also, so all three could/should be expected to improve do you reckon?

We had this a year or two back with Stan Petrov who apparently would walk into a top 4 club and run their midfield but in reality went on to Villa and has done next to nothing there.

cech and reina have both been playing and training at a higher level than gordon
in the first 2 years in the EPL gordon will improve faster than cech and reina
there after if all 3 stay in present clubs there improvement should be fairly similiar
if gordon gets bought by manu or arsenal as a first team player i think gordon could
 improve to a better standard than reina and maybe on par or better than cech


but thats all ifs and maybes he could get injured for 2 years in his first game

I don't remember this TBH, Stan Petrov was a decent player, but was often found missing in big games.

It was probably the best bit of business Celtic have done in the past number of years getting the money we did for him.

Boruc has proved more so in the big games that he is a big time player.  Petrov on the other hand showed he was more an SPL player. 

quite simply a ridiculous price to pay, Roy Keane seems to be taking the Peter Taylor route to Premiership management.

yea it is, but so are about 20 other transfer fees to the epl this year

hargreaves, bent, bale to name 3

deffo

The guy is an absolute diddy!

I can't beleive Sunderland have paid this much for him.

Check out his heroics for Celtic last season  rotflmfao

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQIzqXMYhd8

wow he must be crap as both celtic fans both found 1 bad video of him

where in all honesty he made 2 mistakes not helped by the fact he was under constant pressure as the rest of his team was pure dead mince

i could find hundreds of great saves and games by gordon

Obviously you were not at that game

Under "constant pressure" ?

hearts could have beeen 3-0 up by that stage. They were under pressure for about the last 10 minutes and bottled it.

I've tried to find the game from 2005/06 season where Celtic won 3-2 (two goalsi in last 5 mins again)  to see Gordons laughable attempt at comming for a cross.

Now addmittedly I have only seen him against Celtic (when he's been pretty much mince) so maybe he's just always had a bad day at the office against us.


He has been built up by the Scottish media the same way they built up Boumsong as the greatest defender in the world until some english club with more money than sense decides to bite.

I predict a similar outcome!

 i do believe that Gordon will , one day , be a top class keeper in the Premiership , but i also believe Boruc is better at the minute.

 some of his performances in Europe , particularly against Man Utd and AC Milan were different class. and also at the world cup.

 Gordon hasn't came up against this kind of quality on a regular enough basis.

 http://youtube.com/watch?v=owjB1VMWkSE

One thing is for sure, he'll get plently of opportunity to show what he can or cant do this season.

I didn't say he was crap, I actually said he was decent keeper. I also admitted I was being a wee bit cheeky posting the link, it was only a wee bit of fun ya crabbit teuchter  ;D

I'm not convinced the Polish ned is better atm, however I would agree that he was better prepared for the Premiership (due to the level he has played at) as you allude to.

OK, I'll bite.

Why is he a ned?

Is a 'ned' a Scottish chav?

I had my reply deleted the truth was censored about the evil that attends the reichstag for home games :)

Because on numerous occasions he has acted like one

Just for you  :kiss: :kiss: :kiss:

Why let the facts spoil a good story eh??

http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1271932006

Hardly, don't think he could compete with Captain Trackie on the nedometer, there really was no need to call him a Polish ned.

Grow up.

 

We all know why the rangers fans can't stand him and sadly it has nothing to do with his goalkeeping ability.

God bless the Holy Goalie  ;tightend;

why indeed!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsTZd5BPr6s

Remember this was taken by your own fans as "evidence" of Boruc's "provocative gestures"

I honestly can't believe you have brought this up as the whole episode paints your clubs fans in a very poor light.

LOL wind your neck in.  It was a light hearted comment.   If you read the initial post I was actually praising him.

This place is unreal at times.

Faint praise indeed, you called him a Polish ned, I don't see how that is light hearted? You then posted again saying he has acted like a ned on numerous occasions so what have I got to pull my head in about & why is this place unreal? If you troll you're gonna get a reaction.

Anyway, no doubt you'll dissapear again for months when your team lose 3 on the bounce like you did last season.  rotflmfao

BTW nice start for Craig Gordon.

Barry Fergushins favourite word is FUD.

Therefore I conclude Bazza = FUD! GIRUY!

Odd sort of ned..

http://tinyurl.com/33x7dc

On the Craig Gordon debate, he's a good keeper but lacks presence - which may come with experience - £9m is OTT I'd say.

Craig Gordon is a class act and is worth whatever any particular team want to pay for him.

I don't know how Boruc ended up in this discussion...he's Sccchhhheeeeiiiittttttttt.

I keep hearing how good Boruc played against Milan and Man U,that is two games.How many games has he played for Celtic.

I would say that we(Scotland) are in better shape than most International sides in the goalkeeping dept with McGregor and Gordon,Boruc is not even the best Polish keeper.

Ha ha ha.  Your having a laugh right mate?
You really can't be serious. 

awright bandit

so you want a chance tae win back yer fifty that yer gonnae huv tae pay me at the end of the season( I've no forgot)

I say Celtic don't qualify for the Champs League proper and Rangers do.

Even money £50 eh ?

I hope you take the bet,coz I've already spent the £50 ;D

Ship it mate! :)

After Boruc's terrible display today and that ridiculous celebration after Celtic's first goal, thought it only fair to  ;bump;

I forgot..what was the score again today?

LOL - think you were waiting for this one big guy..3-2 to the Hibees.

Geo

COME ON THE HIBEEEEEEEES :)

Just remembered, your good lady is a Hibee is she not?

geo

nope..I am :) good lady is a Rangers supporter  (nobody's perfect but she had a good day aswell )

Celtic look like maybe they could do with a Scottish 'keeper  ::)

More exemplary behaviour from Artur yesterday (and I'm not talking about his goalkeeping).  At least he wasn't attacking his own team mates this time. ::)

I just don't understand 'fans' who abuse a player and then want to greet to the police if they get any response. It's pathetic no matter who they support.

boruc or gordon i am still in the gordon camp

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBqdVeyj_iE

After the BBC vidiprinter having to spell out Evertons score in brackets yesterday I thought it only fair to ;bump;

Everton 7 (SEVEN) Sunderland 1

I think the last time Artur conceded 7 was playing 5 a sides :D

I just read this thread for the first time and it is a big lololol @ the Celtic fans delusion. Why can't any of them admit, that their players are not the best and if Sundireland wanted Boruc (or in fact any EPL team did) they would sign him - DUCY?

Sorry to rain on your parade.

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

A Spurs fan calling anyone deluded, oh the irony  rotflmfao

BTW both Boruc & Gordon are better than Robinson

mark brown is better than robinson at the moment (celtic reserve goalie nem)

Marton Fulop is better than (insert donkey of choice)

Fulop is Hungary's goalkeeper, currently on loan for the season at Leicester from Sunderland

He is brilliant, but not in Keanes plans apparently..long may that last

didnt he used to play for spurs?

Spurs brought him over from Hungary, stuck him in the reserves and sold him to Sunderland via various loan stays

Who, Robinson?

We're used to rain - it doesn't bother us.

Got to laugh at a Spurs fan talking about delusion.... when would Boruc have played AC Milan with Spurs or Sunderland? He'll leave eventually but it'll be for good cash, till then he's playing in the Champions League & earning well. Let's be honest Spurs, Sunderland etc are only feeding off the ridiculous deal that Sky dished out - and they're doing badly at it when you see the crazy money being paid for fairly average English players. Personally I'd rather boast about football achievements than cash, but I suppose Spurs aren't in a position to do that.

Your delusion is just ridiculous Rod. Whatever about the £'s that the EPL get but that is just REALITY! Tough luck that you are situated in Glasgow, but that is REALITY.

We have more money, soon a bigger stadium and the only way is up for Spurs. Celtic are a dying former giant of European football.

The band played believe it if you like......

I'll correct your mistakes.....

Bigger stadium? ERM - I'd check that if I was you..... I haven't seen anything stating a ground bigger than 54000. Guess what?


The only way is up for Spurs is if something bad happens to the Liverpool, Man  U Chelsea & Arsenal - you've more money than us, but you're not competing against us, keep blowing crazy money on English journeymen and you'll be competing against Plymouth mind you.

I'd not be unhappy with Spurs making the CL personally you've been hard done by in recent years.

Note that the Champs of Scotland are guaranteed in the Group Satges from next year on.... No guarantee we'll win it, but we're a fair bit closer than the team "on the up".

Celtic are not & TBH were not giants of Europe (we had a purple patch which we enjoyed and failed to capitalise on). We are however, instead of dying becoming a very unpopular team to draw in Euope due to causing a lot of problems to teams like Man U, AC Milan, Juventus etc...

Summary is, I know where we stand, I don't try to make myself feel better about being a medium sized fish in a big pond by slagging the big fish in smaller ponds.

To be fair to Gordon, he was woefully exposed by the defence for almost every goal.

However, what struck me was his post-goal reactions, which mainly consisted of staring mournfully into the distance. Boruc would have been making the defenders ears bleed at 2-0 never mind 7-1. As I said previously, Gordon doesn't yet have the presence of a truly top class keeper.

He was a bit more vocal at Hearts, possibly still finding his feet?

Maybe they can't understand his accent. Mind you, most of the Hearts team are Lithuanian.

you have always had more money, a bigger potential fanbase, so what is going to make it different this time ?

You never know, if Celtic fall below all expectations and fail to make the knockout stages of the champions league (its a big tournament for the leading clubs in europe btw), and Spurs exceed all expectations and make the knockout stages of the Uefa Cup, we might even be allowed to play each other.

as you say though, there is a big gulf...

I see Gordon was dropped yesterday