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Title: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: Rapidseven on August 13, 2007, 01:51:25 PM
Hi everyone, just want to share with you a little bad-beat story.

Tournament - Internet satellite for this years Aussie Millions ( just gone )

Tournament stage - Final Table

Players left - 6

Chip Stack - 160,000 ( ish )

Position - 2cnd

Prize - winner gets a seat to the Aussie Millions

Ok here goes.

Considering I never play tournament poker at the time, I was lucky enough to get to the final table of the final qualifier for this years Aussie Millions, this is what happens.

6 players left,

Im on the button, the blinds are 2 and 4k.

Im holding  Qh Qs ( ant remember the exact suit )

Player 3 UTG calls, P4 folds, P5 raises 12k, I raise another 12k. small blind folds, bb calls, P3 calls, P5 calls.

The pot is 92k before the flop.

Flop comes -  Qd   6h  6c

I flop the 2cnd nuts.

Player 3 bets out 12k into a 92k pot.

Player 5, the original raiser makes it 50k to go.

I take some time trying to work out how I can get the most out of this hand ( very very confident inside at this point )

I make the call, Player 3 puts the time bank on, takes quite a while and folds.

The pot is now 180k and im heads up with the chip leader ( he had me by about 10k before the hand started )

4th Street shows a  2d

Player 5 goes all in immediately for 104k.

The pot now is 284k, I have 94k left, If I make the call the pot is 378k.

Now at this time, a million good feelings were going through my head all in a split second. I thought, if he made the nuts on the flop, I cant really feel that bad about it, its a cooler and i'll take it on the chin.

I thought about the hand, and looked back at the hand history and took a second to see how Player 5 had played it. At this point, I started to think its possible he had the nuts, but isnt flopping quads with a pocket pair around a 400 - 1 shot ?

I thought this and called for all my stack.

River brings a  2c

All the chips go over to him, he's made quads on the river. So he's hit runner runner on 4th street and the river to outdraw me.

Considering everything afterwards, I felt pretty sick to be perfectly honest.

Would you's have played the hand any differently than I did ?



Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: Robert HM on August 13, 2007, 01:56:21 PM
I feel your pain, but that is still 50p you owe us.


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: booder on August 13, 2007, 02:06:10 PM
don't min reraise preflop


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: byronkincaid on August 13, 2007, 02:10:36 PM
don't min reraise preflop

why not?


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: kinboshi on August 13, 2007, 02:25:08 PM
You can't worry about someone hitting runner-runner quads, or hitting quads on the flop. 


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: Boba Fett on August 13, 2007, 02:50:00 PM
Slow played yourself to death  :(


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: Graham C on August 13, 2007, 03:25:59 PM
I agree, the min raise preflop isn't nice, you just want to take the pot down there and then with queens imo.


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: matt674 on August 13, 2007, 04:30:07 PM
but isnt flopping quads with a pocket pair around a 400 - 1 shot ?

Tournament - Internet satellite for this years Aussie Millions ( just gone )

more likely about 4-1..................

 ;whistle;


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: seven2unsuited on August 13, 2007, 07:49:04 PM
I've saw worse my  7h  5c just got outdrawn by  Ac  Ahrt , in a $2 freezeout, sickening!


Title: Re: Pretty awful out-draw.
Post by: totalise on August 13, 2007, 07:55:29 PM
thanks for sharing the story, very illuminating indeed.