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Title: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2007, 08:06:45 AM
give me a break from NLHE all you TDs and cardrrom supervisors please use your imagination when making up your festivals 4-7 NLHE events are getting boring

any chance of some omaha and stud games or anything other than all NLHE  how hard can it be to train a dealer that already know NLHE how to deal PLO or stud

ok razz and split games might need a little training but nothing too exessive

surely the players must be getting sick of playing NLHE 7/52



Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: TheChipPrince on August 22, 2007, 11:37:22 AM

Would other disciplines attract enough numbers Iron?


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Longy on August 22, 2007, 12:36:28 PM
WSOPE obv! There is a nice cheap option for you.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: matt674 on August 22, 2007, 01:26:46 PM
give me a break from NLHE all you TDs and cardrrom supervisors please use your imagination when making up your festivals 4-7 NLHE events are getting boring

any chance of some omaha and stud games or anything other than all NLHE  how hard can it be to train a dealer that already know NLHE how to deal PLO or stud

ok razz and split games might need a little training but nothing too exessive

surely the players must be getting sick of playing NLHE 7/52

I'm a tournament director, i can host a tournament where i'll attract 150 runners and get 150 lots of juice or i can host a tournament that will attract 25 runners and get 25 lots of juice but still have to pay the same amount of wages as all the dealers will be here in the casino.



Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2007, 02:33:27 PM


I think Iron's point is that it would be quite refreshing if the Organisers showed a little creativity in their Fessie scheduling.

I'm musing on going to the Aviation Club in Paris in October for what is, to be fair, called the "Hold 'Em Series", held over 9 days. It begins with a €250, followed by a €500, & climaxes with a €3,000 Main Event. In between, there is this masterpiece of Event Scheduling.

Monday 1st October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Tuesday 2nd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Wednesday 3rd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Thursday 4th October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Vive la France!


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: matt674 on August 22, 2007, 02:41:04 PM


I think Iron's point is that it would be quite refreshing if the Organisers showed a little creativity in their Fessie scheduling.

I'm musing on going to the Aviation Club in Paris in October for what is, to be fair, called the "Hold 'Em Series", held over 9 days. It begins with a €250, followed by a €500, & climaxes with a €3,000 Main Event. In between, there is this masterpiece of Event Scheduling.

Monday 1st October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Tuesday 2nd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Wednesday 3rd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Thursday 4th October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Vive la France!


but if thats what sells out every time and there are no complaints from the players then why change?

i understand what iron is saying but the casinos are only going to play what suits their pockets best and obviously suits the punters best as well otherwise they wouldn't continue to turn up otherwise.

how many times has a casino tried something different and put on say an omaha h/l event only to have less than 3 tables worth of players turn up?


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: matt674 on August 22, 2007, 02:50:27 PM
the GUKPT event reaches Plymouth in the not too distant future. Say for instance the TD for the week turns round and says "Ok, we're going to go for something different - on Tuesday instead of a £300 double chance freezeout we're going to run a £200 razz tourney instead":

a) how many people would turn up to play?

and

b) how many people would complain?

my money would be on between 15-20 for a and about four times that for b.............


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2007, 02:51:47 PM


I think Iron's point is that it would be quite refreshing if the Organisers showed a little creativity in their Fessie scheduling.

I'm musing on going to the Aviation Club in Paris in October for what is, to be fair, called the "Hold 'Em Series", held over 9 days. It begins with a €250, followed by a €500, & climaxes with a €3,000 Main Event. In between, there is this masterpiece of Event Scheduling.

Monday 1st October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Tuesday 2nd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Wednesday 3rd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Thursday 4th October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Vive la France!


but if thats what sells out every time and there are no complaints from the players then why change?

i understand what iron is saying but the casinos are only going to play what suits their pockets best and obviously suits the punters best as well otherwise they wouldn't continue to turn up otherwise.

how many times has a casino tried something different and put on say an omaha h/l event only to have less than 3 tables worth of players turn up?

Agree entirely.The truth is, Omaha Tourneys were destroyed by scheduling too many Rebuys, which the deep-pocket maniacs made unplayable for regular guys.That pretty much killed Omaha as a Fessie fixture. We are starting to see a few Omaha Feeezeouts now, & these are attracting better fields. The Plymouth GUKPT Fessie includes an Omaha Freeze, well done them, & I hope it'll attract a decent field. Nothing ventured.....

In Europe, Baden I think, they have an Annual Stud Festival - it attracts huge fields, daily sell-outs.

I think a little scheduling creativity, while bound to suffer from the odd "dud", might surprise & reward the braver organisers.

Of course, if we had a Governing Body to help create a structured "season", as in most other organised, high participant volume activities, these things would all get sorted.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2007, 02:53:44 PM
the GUKPT event reaches Plymouth in the not too distant future. Say for instance the TD for the week turns round and says "Ok, we're going to go for something different - on Tuesday instead of a £300 double chance freezeout we're going to run a £200 razz tourney instead":

a) how many people would turn up to play?

and

b) how many people would complain?

my money would be on between 15-20 for a and about four times that for b.............

They have in fact scheduled an Omaha Freeze, & I for one hope it's successful. Top marks - again - to the much-maligned Grosvenor/Blue Square Combo.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Paullie_D on August 22, 2007, 02:55:19 PM
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but if thats what sells out every time and there are no complaints from the players then why change?

Clearly there ARE request/complaints...Iron for one. I'm pretty sure that he's not alone

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i understand what iron is saying but the casinos are only going to play what suits their pockets best .....

Only too true

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...and obviously suits the punters best as well otherwise they wouldn't continue to turn up otherwise

Maybe but if casinos continue to just offer one thing, then that's what get splayed. I won't argue that HE is the most well known and popular variant but a little variety wouldn't go amiss.

Surely the answer is to offer more variants at the same time. Of course casinos won't do this because they don't have the room or, initailly, the take-up.

If you spread it, they will come..because no-one else is.

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how many times has a casino tried something different and put on say an omaha h/l event only to have less than 3 tables worth of players turn up?

But how much effort did they put into the event? If they suspect that they'll only get a lower number of runners then they won't publicise it much..kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy.

DTD, take note.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: AndrewT on August 22, 2007, 03:12:09 PM
The Vic is including a £500 Seven Card Stud tournament as part of their run up to the EPT event next month.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: tikay on August 22, 2007, 03:13:03 PM
The Vic is including a £500 Seven Card Stud tournament as part of their run up to the EPT event next month.

Well done them.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: matt674 on August 22, 2007, 03:22:29 PM
The Vic is including a £500 Seven Card Stud tournament as part of their run up to the EPT event next month.

Well done them.

they are doing virtually the entire spectrum bar a razz tourney as they also have omaha h/l and omaha tourneys with p/l hold'em as well.

will be interesting to see the turnout for the other events and see how many events appear on the schedule next year


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2007, 05:39:16 PM
i have just seen the vics schedule i am seriously thinking of getting down for the PLO8
only problem is i have only just seen the schedule and it might be a little late to get a
decent flight
but the vic have priced alot of people out of the PLO event by making it £1000 rebuy
the £500 PLO8 double chance event is much more realistic for us small time players


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: AlexMartin on August 22, 2007, 05:40:09 PM


I think Iron's point is that it would be quite refreshing if the Organisers showed a little creativity in their Fessie scheduling.

I'm musing on going to the Aviation Club in Paris in October for what is, to be fair, called the "Hold 'Em Series", held over 9 days. It begins with a €250, followed by a €500, & climaxes with a €3,000 Main Event. In between, there is this masterpiece of Event Scheduling.

Monday 1st October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Tuesday 2nd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Wednesday 3rd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Thursday 4th October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Vive la France!


Im going grandad, added value all round.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2007, 05:41:15 PM


I think Iron's point is that it would be quite refreshing if the Organisers showed a little creativity in their Fessie scheduling.

I'm musing on going to the Aviation Club in Paris in October for what is, to be fair, called the "Hold 'Em Series", held over 9 days. It begins with a €250, followed by a €500, & climaxes with a €3,000 Main Event. In between, there is this masterpiece of Event Scheduling.

Monday 1st October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Tuesday 2nd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Wednesday 3rd October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Thursday 4th October, 8pm, €1,000 Double Chance No Limit Hold 'Em Freezeout.

Vive la France!


Im going grandad, added value all round.

the added value is at the bar


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Yogi-Bear on August 22, 2007, 06:08:21 PM
We always used to run an Omaha comp in Blackpool when I was there. Had some very good turnouts for it. Plus with it being on a Friday it gave everyone a break from No Limit and even a break from Poker, if anyone really wanted one. They could go on the lash in town. I was at the last lash. And I'm sure many Gents enjoyed it immensly.

Yogi.


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: boldie on August 22, 2007, 08:01:22 PM
TK is right..Omaha shouldn't be a re-buy game..but a nice freezeout is always welcome. Well done to all those scheduling them (a bit of triple draw 2-7 low ball even maybe..somewhere?


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: matt674 on August 22, 2007, 09:49:37 PM
Well done to all those scheduling them (a bit of triple draw 2-7 low ball even maybe..somewhere?

More chance of finding a leprechaun willing to sell you a bag of rocking horse s*@t......... ;)


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: Ironside on August 22, 2007, 09:53:43 PM
Well done to all those scheduling them (a bit of triple draw 2-7 low ball even maybe..somewhere?

More chance of finding a leprechaun willing to sell you a bag of rocking horse s*@t......... ;)

thats a coinstandance i just bought a bad for $700000 from some small irish guy on ebay


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: boldie on August 23, 2007, 07:42:55 PM
Well done to all those scheduling them (a bit of triple draw 2-7 low ball even maybe..somewhere?

More chance of finding a leprechaun willing to sell you a bag of rocking horse s*@t......... ;)

lmao


Title: Re: NLHE + NLHE + NLHE + NLHE
Post by: fearisthekey on August 24, 2007, 02:30:00 PM
lowball is pretty good, surprised to see so little of it.
I'm surprised to see the predominance of NLHE for cash, it can get bloody tedious.

I'd love to see more Hellkat time-based tournaments, they add a welcome twist. And a lot of panic.