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Title: Pretty much a donk overplay?
Post by: Tragic on August 27, 2007, 03:15:57 PM
Game #4413881413: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2007/08/27 - 14:01:41 (UK)
Table "Anto" Seat 4 is the button.
Seat 1: Handsken ($356.35 in chips)
Seat 2: Oxide101 ($598.95 in chips)
Seat 3: goalshow2 ($518.25 in chips)
Seat 4: bouncii ($204.10 in chips)
Seat 5: Scruff ($201 in chips)
Seat 6: Whispers ($197 in chips)
Scruff: posts small blind $1
Whispers: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Scruff [ Ks  Qs]
Handsken: folds
Oxide101: calls $2
goalshow2: raises to $8
bouncii: folds
Scruff: calls $7
Whispers: folds
Oxide101: calls $6
----- FLOP ----- [ Qd   6s  3s]
Scruff: bets $18
Oxide101: folds
goalshow2: raises to $58
Scruff: raises to $193 and is all-in
goalshow2: calls $135
----- TURN ----- [Qd  6s 3s][ Ad]
----- RIVER ----- [Qd 6s 3s Ad][ 7s]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Scruff: shows [Ks Qs] (A Flush, King high)
goalshow2: shows [ Ac  Ahrt] (Three of a kind, Aces, Queen high)
Scruff collected $409 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $412 Main pot $409 Rake $3
Board [Qd 6s 3s Ad 7s]
Seat 1: Handsken folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: Oxide101 folded on the Flop
Seat 3: goalshow2 showed [Ac Ah] and lost with Three of a kind, Aces, Queen high
Seat 4: bouncii (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: Scruff (small blind) showed [Ks Qs] and won ($409) with A Flush, King high
Seat 6: Whispers (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Solid player and I think his range here is pretty damn narrow. Don't think he's raising a low pair like this pre so rule them out, but I think i'm still crushed and overplay this hand if we say that fold equity is pretty damn close to zero. I hate the idea of calling to pass a rubbish turn though. What do you think?


Title: Re: Pretty much a donk overplay?
Post by: AlexMartin on August 27, 2007, 03:29:59 PM
Hate these ones. Player dependant, id min raise his flop lead and then fold to ai, but most of the time im doing what you do here.

The sad part is if he is a decent reg at 1/2 you are either flipping v a combo draw or are miles behind.
At 2/4 im always stacking lol.


Title: Re: Pretty much a donk overplay?
Post by: temp0r on August 27, 2007, 05:31:34 PM
it aint alllllll that bad really. i'd prefer a check-raise on the flop in most cases i think. however the way you've played it may get a rock to fold here thinking you have 33/66. as you give no player specific info here i can't say exactly if you were right or wrong to do anything there.


Title: Re: Pretty much a donk overplay?
Post by: Tragic on August 28, 2007, 12:11:47 AM
MY player info is that the weakest possible hand he does this with is AQ, with AA KK QQ and monster draws far more likely. That's why i'm convinced it's a bad move and i'm not even sure why I need that confirming, Alex is right though, crypto 1/2 these days, and now quite alot of the time 2/5, is like playing robots with no intention of actually attempting to play poker. Raise c-bet c-c-bet is the way forward but i end up binning any profit in a moment of sheer boredom/frustration. Dunno what to do :(.