Title: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2007, 06:30:28 PM Martin Allen sacked today, after 3 league games W 1 D 1 L 1.
Hideous timing after last night's abandonment with a life threatening illness to a player. Players already down, and the next day you sack the manager..... :dontask: Citing differences of opinion over way club is run,major difference was over signing Hasselbaink (Allen said he was overpaid, over the hill and not required) What a complete embarrassment. Goes with the territory I suppose, club needs Manadric's money to stand any chance of progress but he'd fall out with a lot of people on the way I might be slightly appeased if he appoints Jewell. If he appoints Roeder you will hear the screams from where you are. Warnock, oh jeez I dislike that man Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: boldie on August 29, 2007, 06:32:59 PM jesus...well everyone could see this one coming I think. that's the problem when the chairman considers himself to be the club.
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2007, 06:34:30 PM it was coming I suppose, he gets through managers ten to the dozen.... but today?
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: boldie on August 29, 2007, 06:36:08 PM it was coming I suppose, he gets through managers ten to the dozen.... but today? that's the problem with guys like Mandaric , their egos are too big and the whole world revolves around what they want. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: bolt pp on August 29, 2007, 06:51:42 PM but today? why? because one player was ill yesterday? Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2007, 06:54:25 PM almost died
in front of 15 other players and a manager in tears when on the pitch explaining the abandonment afterwards Really heartless timing Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: bolt pp on August 29, 2007, 06:58:40 PM I understand how emotional it must have been for everyone but its a business decision and they have to be made
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on August 29, 2007, 07:00:16 PM LOL not after 3 league games it doesn't!
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: bolt pp on August 29, 2007, 07:05:24 PM LOL not after 3 league games it doesn't! exactly i agree, i dont know what internal discord there is at the club but based on results its definitely a premature dismissal IMO, what i was saying is why does the incident yesterday make it more inappropriate? Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: redsimon on August 29, 2007, 07:19:40 PM Judging by the article in the Daily Mirror today not a surprising decision. Timing a bit odd though, plus hasn't Allen signed 12+ players in close season...seems very odd to let him do that then boot him after 1 defeat
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: boldie on August 29, 2007, 07:21:48 PM Judging by the article in the Daily Mirror today not a surprising decision. Timing a bit odd though, plus hasn't Allen signed 12+ players in close season...seems very odd to let him do that then boot him after 1 defeat anyone wanna lay me odds that Mandaric already has someone lined up that he's been speaking to for a while? Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Pelham Boy on August 29, 2007, 08:42:01 PM Tighty this is a disgrace,i feel really angry about this.Though i suppose it's no surprise given Mandarics' track record. Did he not do something similar to Steve Claridge at Pompey?
How can someone who is percieved to be an astute businessman allow Martin Allen to bring in 15 or so new players and then sack him after 3 games? Its obvious Mandaric just wants a nodding dog type manager, step forward Glen Roeder. He may have saved us from returning to administration but i would have prefered that to Warnock.If he gets the job i wont set foot in the ground until he's gone. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Longines on August 29, 2007, 09:16:18 PM Five Live are reporting that Gary Megson is favourite.
Oh dear. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Acidmouse on August 29, 2007, 10:35:27 PM What a suprise, unreal he lasted this long tbh.
Martin Allen's man management skills are only good for the lower leagues his excentric work practices simply dont cut it with pampared pro's these days. Mandric and Allen both dummies. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TheChipPrince on August 30, 2007, 10:39:06 AM This has nothing to do with any results or Clarke's injury/illness i'm afraid, just 2 fiery and passionate characters who had differences of opinion... Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Ironside on August 30, 2007, 03:12:02 PM he had to make room so hasslebank could become player/manager
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: sharpy on August 31, 2007, 12:32:57 AM What is baffling is why Mandric appointed Martin Allen to begin with.The pair off them had a falling out when they were at pompey which resulted with Allen going.(he was assistant then I think).
BTW Tighty you have many more years of this to come.Until Mandric finds another 'arry' to manage Leicester it will just go on and on and on. Enjoy PS I think the timing of this stinks Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: bobby1 on September 03, 2007, 01:54:40 AM Warnock is exactly what they need, managers dont get promotion records like his by fluke.
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on September 03, 2007, 11:17:17 AM Peter Reid.?.oh please god no
Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: bobby1 on September 03, 2007, 12:00:12 PM Peter Reid.?.oh please god no hee hee, I wouldnt wish that on anyone!! Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on September 03, 2007, 03:30:01 PM Mandaric has signed two players on season long loans since the manager left
thus confirming what we already know. The real manager is the chairman, all you have to do as public manager is say "yes" a lot and do some training sessions Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on September 03, 2007, 06:42:43 PM Martin's goodbye message
"Good morning everyone, Yesterday I went swimming in a frozen lake. It wasn't frozen to begin with, I had to freeze it first and then I broke the ice to climb in. In many ways managing Leicester City was like climbing into that lake only there were less dead wet fish because I got rid of one to Charlton and the other to Motherwell before I left. But I still broke the ice anyway. I think we achieved a lot together before I left, but what I did was incidental; the players deserve the credit not me. They jump after the hare in a blind fashion as it races around the stadium and the trainer just stands near the stadium trying to get into the knickers off the daughter of an addicted gambler. You can take the dog home at the end of the race, give it a doggy chew, feed it some Bonios, pick up the shit that it leaves lying around and sometimes scratch its stomach...but if that dog doesn't want to chase fluffy rabbits, it doesn't matter how good a trainer you are. Sometimes you find that your house is full of dogs that you didn't buy. Sometimes you ask the dog owner to stop leaving his tired, old dogs around your house but little do you think that it will be the dog owner that bites you. Football management is surprising like that. I remember thinking that football management is a funny old game while I was grafting 27 hours a day as a self-employed gardener. That's real pressure for you - pruning rose bushes and stopping for cups of tea. You don't want someone poncing about in your garden, and err hanging around, fluffing about and all that stuff. And that's what I did at Leicester. Gardening can help relieve the stress of management but it’s also similar to tending a football team. I took a hedge-trimmer to clear out the flower beds at the training ground. The owner of the flower patch then gave me a load of plants; some of them didn't like the soil, some very very old and some were already dead - but I propped them up and pretended I could make them grow. Eventually, you have to say "No, I want some plants that I like the look of, I don't like that plant - it won't fit on a left-facing wall" but we all know that in the gardening game you have to make you bed and not step on it. Hopefully, some of the seedlings I didn't lend to other gardeners will be able to do a half decent job. You know, managing Leicester City was a lot like eating your Sunday dinner. At the beginning I was very keen to get started but I had to dick about with the DVD-watching, that was like my prawn cocktail. Then I wanted to tuck into my veg & meat course but the bloke that was paying for the whole thing kept flicking bits of food at me that I didn't want. It was like my plate was being piled up on one side with food that didn't go together, like processed cheese and broken Hula Hoops. They have no place on a Sunday dinner plate at all. I kept trying to re-arrange my plate and in the end had to take it all to a restaurant in Scotland. But, as is always the way, the bloke who pays for the meal gets the final say and here I am now, at the end of the meal, without any wafer mints. Or any coffee. You know what I mean? After a good Sunday meal I like to play games with my children but they've got too good so I don't play them anymore. Anyway, we can't afford any games now. It seems as though my Auntie has balls. Take care, Martin" Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: boldie on September 03, 2007, 08:51:13 PM Martin's goodbye message "Good morning everyone, Yesterday I went swimming in a frozen lake. It wasn't frozen to begin with, I had to freeze it first and then I broke the ice to climb in. In many ways managing Leicester City was like climbing into that lake only there were less dead wet fish because I got rid of one to Charlton and the other to Motherwell before I left. But I still broke the ice anyway. I think we achieved a lot together before I left, but what I did was incidental; the players deserve the credit not me. They jump after the hare in a blind fashion as it races around the stadium and the trainer just stands near the stadium trying to get into the knickers off the daughter of an addicted gambler. You can take the dog home at the end of the race, give it a doggy chew, feed it some Bonios, pick up the shit that it leaves lying around and sometimes scratch its stomach...but if that dog doesn't want to chase fluffy rabbits, it doesn't matter how good a trainer you are. Sometimes you find that your house is full of dogs that you didn't buy. Sometimes you ask the dog owner to stop leaving his tired, old dogs around your house but little do you think that it will be the dog owner that bites you. Football management is surprising like that. I remember thinking that football management is a funny old game while I was grafting 27 hours a day as a self-employed gardener. That's real pressure for you - pruning rose bushes and stopping for cups of tea. You don't want someone poncing about in your garden, and err hanging around, fluffing about and all that stuff. And that's what I did at Leicester. Gardening can help relieve the stress of management but it’s also similar to tending a football team. I took a hedge-trimmer to clear out the flower beds at the training ground. The owner of the flower patch then gave me a load of plants; some of them didn't like the soil, some very very old and some were already dead - but I propped them up and pretended I could make them grow. Eventually, you have to say "No, I want some plants that I like the look of, I don't like that plant - it won't fit on a left-facing wall" but we all know that in the gardening game you have to make you bed and not step on it. Hopefully, some of the seedlings I didn't lend to other gardeners will be able to do a half decent job. You know, managing Leicester City was a lot like eating your Sunday dinner. At the beginning I was very keen to get started but I had to dick about with the DVD-watching, that was like my prawn cocktail. Then I wanted to tuck into my veg & meat course but the bloke that was paying for the whole thing kept flicking bits of food at me that I didn't want. It was like my plate was being piled up on one side with food that didn't go together, like processed cheese and broken Hula Hoops. They have no place on a Sunday dinner plate at all. I kept trying to re-arrange my plate and in the end had to take it all to a restaurant in Scotland. But, as is always the way, the bloke who pays for the meal gets the final say and here I am now, at the end of the meal, without any wafer mints. Or any coffee. You know what I mean? After a good Sunday meal I like to play games with my children but they've got too good so I don't play them anymore. Anyway, we can't afford any games now. It seems as though my Auntie has balls. Take care, Martin" class Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: tikay on September 04, 2007, 09:59:38 PM Martin's goodbye message "Good morning everyone, Yesterday I went swimming in a frozen lake. It wasn't frozen to begin with, I had to freeze it first and then I broke the ice to climb in. In many ways managing Leicester City was like climbing into that lake only there were less dead wet fish because I got rid of one to Charlton and the other to Motherwell before I left. But I still broke the ice anyway. I think we achieved a lot together before I left, but what I did was incidental; the players deserve the credit not me. They jump after the hare in a blind fashion as it races around the stadium and the trainer just stands near the stadium trying to get into the knickers off the daughter of an addicted gambler. You can take the dog home at the end of the race, give it a doggy chew, feed it some Bonios, pick up the shit that it leaves lying around and sometimes scratch its stomach...but if that dog doesn't want to chase fluffy rabbits, it doesn't matter how good a trainer you are. Sometimes you find that your house is full of dogs that you didn't buy. Sometimes you ask the dog owner to stop leaving his tired, old dogs around your house but little do you think that it will be the dog owner that bites you. Football management is surprising like that. I remember thinking that football management is a funny old game while I was grafting 27 hours a day as a self-employed gardener. That's real pressure for you - pruning rose bushes and stopping for cups of tea. You don't want someone poncing about in your garden, and err hanging around, fluffing about and all that stuff. And that's what I did at Leicester. Gardening can help relieve the stress of management but it’s also similar to tending a football team. I took a hedge-trimmer to clear out the flower beds at the training ground. The owner of the flower patch then gave me a load of plants; some of them didn't like the soil, some very very old and some were already dead - but I propped them up and pretended I could make them grow. Eventually, you have to say "No, I want some plants that I like the look of, I don't like that plant - it won't fit on a left-facing wall" but we all know that in the gardening game you have to make you bed and not step on it. Hopefully, some of the seedlings I didn't lend to other gardeners will be able to do a half decent job. You know, managing Leicester City was a lot like eating your Sunday dinner. At the beginning I was very keen to get started but I had to dick about with the DVD-watching, that was like my prawn cocktail. Then I wanted to tuck into my veg & meat course but the bloke that was paying for the whole thing kept flicking bits of food at me that I didn't want. It was like my plate was being piled up on one side with food that didn't go together, like processed cheese and broken Hula Hoops. They have no place on a Sunday dinner plate at all. I kept trying to re-arrange my plate and in the end had to take it all to a restaurant in Scotland. But, as is always the way, the bloke who pays for the meal gets the final say and here I am now, at the end of the meal, without any wafer mints. Or any coffee. You know what I mean? After a good Sunday meal I like to play games with my children but they've got too good so I don't play them anymore. Anyway, we can't afford any games now. It seems as though my Auntie has balls. Take care, Martin" I'll have some of what he's on. He's a complete fruitcake! Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Longy on September 05, 2007, 01:56:31 AM Martin's goodbye message "Good morning everyone, Yesterday I went swimming in a frozen lake. It wasn't frozen to begin with, I had to freeze it first and then I broke the ice to climb in. In many ways managing Leicester City was like climbing into that lake only there were less dead wet fish because I got rid of one to Charlton and the other to Motherwell before I left. But I still broke the ice anyway. I think we achieved a lot together before I left, but what I did was incidental; the players deserve the credit not me. They jump after the hare in a blind fashion as it races around the stadium and the trainer just stands near the stadium trying to get into the knickers off the daughter of an addicted gambler. You can take the dog home at the end of the race, give it a doggy chew, feed it some Bonios, pick up the shit that it leaves lying around and sometimes scratch its stomach...but if that dog doesn't want to chase fluffy rabbits, it doesn't matter how good a trainer you are. Sometimes you find that your house is full of dogs that you didn't buy. Sometimes you ask the dog owner to stop leaving his tired, old dogs around your house but little do you think that it will be the dog owner that bites you. Football management is surprising like that. I remember thinking that football management is a funny old game while I was grafting 27 hours a day as a self-employed gardener. That's real pressure for you - pruning rose bushes and stopping for cups of tea. You don't want someone poncing about in your garden, and err hanging around, fluffing about and all that stuff. And that's what I did at Leicester. Gardening can help relieve the stress of management but it’s also similar to tending a football team. I took a hedge-trimmer to clear out the flower beds at the training ground. The owner of the flower patch then gave me a load of plants; some of them didn't like the soil, some very very old and some were already dead - but I propped them up and pretended I could make them grow. Eventually, you have to say "No, I want some plants that I like the look of, I don't like that plant - it won't fit on a left-facing wall" but we all know that in the gardening game you have to make you bed and not step on it. Hopefully, some of the seedlings I didn't lend to other gardeners will be able to do a half decent job. You know, managing Leicester City was a lot like eating your Sunday dinner. At the beginning I was very keen to get started but I had to dick about with the DVD-watching, that was like my prawn cocktail. Then I wanted to tuck into my veg & meat course but the bloke that was paying for the whole thing kept flicking bits of food at me that I didn't want. It was like my plate was being piled up on one side with food that didn't go together, like processed cheese and broken Hula Hoops. They have no place on a Sunday dinner plate at all. I kept trying to re-arrange my plate and in the end had to take it all to a restaurant in Scotland. But, as is always the way, the bloke who pays for the meal gets the final say and here I am now, at the end of the meal, without any wafer mints. Or any coffee. You know what I mean? After a good Sunday meal I like to play games with my children but they've got too good so I don't play them anymore. Anyway, we can't afford any games now. It seems as though my Auntie has balls. Take care, Martin" Brilliant. Him and Ian Holloway are two of a kind. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TheChipPrince on September 05, 2007, 09:41:01 AM Good bloke Martin Allen, he has that rare quality that when he speaks people listen, hope he finds another job soon... On another note don' think Leicester should look any further than Warnock, but whether mandaric and him can get along is another matter... Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: CrestOfaWave on September 07, 2007, 09:21:32 PM Excellent letter - but in reality no different than corporate life. Too many dickhead money men not letting CEO's and MD's get on with their jobs.
Martin Allen will get another job I am sure. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: sharpy on November 20, 2007, 07:13:09 PM Ian Holloway ;gobsmacked; Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: TightEnd on November 21, 2007, 01:25:55 PM Ian Holloway ;gobsmacked; compared to the re-tread options of Reid/Roeder/Souness/Royle it will be like having a super-star. done well at Plymouth, mad as a box of frogs so as per usual will be entertaining at least Jean Tigana would have been interesting, he almost came I gather Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: boldie on November 21, 2007, 01:27:42 PM Jean Tigana would have been interesting, he almost came I gather yeah but Mandaric couldn't quite pull it off. Title: Re: The most baffling managerial decision ever Post by: Rod Paradise on November 22, 2007, 02:11:14 PM Excellent letter - but in reality no different than corporate life. Too many dickhead CEO's and MD's not letting the people who understand what the company does & how to do it get on with their jobs. Martin Allen will get another job I am sure. FYP |