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Title: Buying into live events online?
Post by: byronkincaid on August 30, 2007, 10:49:54 AM
Prob a stupid question but I can't think of the answer.

You can buy into APAT events online right?

Why can't you do the same with any other live comps? Or has it all changed recently and you can buy into say a GUKPT event online?


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 10:54:16 AM
I think this will happen a lot more after tomorrow and the new legislation (with the law change regarding players having to be seated before the start, and the use of alternates, etc.). 

Like you say, it would be daft not to be able to buy in to a GUKPT event via Bluesq. 


(by the way, I don't really know how it works now for most events, just thinking out loud...so I might be wrong here - again)


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: Graham C on August 30, 2007, 11:18:39 AM
excuse my ignorance, but what's an alternate?


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 11:21:58 AM
Basically a reserve.  A list of alternates can be used to replace people who register for an event but then drop-out.

Not sure what the rules are on this at the moment (obviously if you have to be there at the start of an event, alternates can't be brought in once a tournament has started), but with the new legislation I guess it means that these alternates/reserves will be standard practice.  I believe they are in many other countries.



Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2007, 11:54:22 AM
You'll be able to ring up in advance and buy in over the phone for Grosvenors from 1st Sept...I have no idea for their plans for buing in through Blue Sq though which would make total sense

I rather doubt they've even thought about it though or have the systems in place.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: Snatiramas on August 30, 2007, 03:35:01 PM
excuse my ignorance, but what's an alternate?

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Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: Dewi_cool on August 30, 2007, 03:39:59 PM
is an alternate also a player who enters the comp once another player is knocked out?


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: phatomch on August 30, 2007, 03:41:28 PM
You'll be able to ring up in advance and buy in over the phone for Grosvenors from 1st Sept...I have no idea for their plans for buing in through Blue Sq though which would make total sense

I rather doubt they've even thought about it though or have the systems in place.



Only the Vic and Walsall will be trialing this. You CAN'T book in for events in Grosvenor or reserve seats over the phone.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2007, 04:12:21 PM
You can at the G Luton, fact.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 04:15:29 PM
is an alternate also a player who enters the comp once another player is knocked out?

Yeah - I think so.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 04:42:34 PM
With Grosvenor are you not able to buy in to tournaments at any Grosvenor casino?

Ok, so you still have to go to a casino to buy in but you can at least visit the one nearest you rather than the casino where the event is going to be played.

With buying into a tournament online - most tournaments already have that facility in place..............






















provided you are good enough to beat 85-90% of the field in a satellite ;)


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: byronkincaid on August 30, 2007, 04:51:29 PM
it's time consuming hassle for me to get to any Grosvenor.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2007, 04:55:43 PM
it's time consuming hassle for me to get to any Grosvenor.

and for many people. Lets hope they move into the 19th century and the walsall/vic trial extends to the whole estate


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: Shogun112 on August 30, 2007, 05:38:25 PM
Alternative = If a tournament starts with say 35 players, on 4 tables, there will be 5 empty seats... For the first hour, people can walk into the poker room and join, taking one of them seats for the same price that everybody else has paid, and for the same chips...

Once all 4 tables are full, the next person who came to play, has to wait for a seat, ie, one person gets knocked out..  The person waiting will get that empty seat... There could be more people waiting....  The person knocked out is allowed to go back to the desk and pay his money to become an alternate, but, he joins the queue behind anybody else that got there..

Sometimes, early on, when nobody has joined the queue, it is possible to go out and pretty much stay in your seat like a rebuy because there is no queue...

It is also possible that if 10 people join the queue, they can open a new table and make into a bigger tournament..

So, it is similar to a rebuy, but, nobody is guaranteed to get back in before the hour expires..

I saw a guy, low stacked, looking at the clock, 1 min remaining, go all-in because if he lost, he would get twice the number of chips he was holding by doing an alternate, unfortunately, the person at the front of the queue got his seat, so he really should have checked the size of the queue before deciding on his dumb bet..!!


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: redsimon on August 30, 2007, 06:38:20 PM
Alternative = If a tournament starts with say 35 players, on 4 tables, there will be 5 empty seats... For the first hour, people can walk into the poker room and join, taking one of them seats for the same price that everybody else has paid, and for the same chips...

Once all 4 tables are full, the next person who came to play, has to wait for a seat, ie, one person gets knocked out..  The person waiting will get that empty seat... There could be more people waiting....  The person knocked out is allowed to go back to the desk and pay his money to become an alternate, but, he joins the queue behind anybody else that got there..

Sometimes, early on, when nobody has joined the queue, it is possible to go out and pretty much stay in your seat like a rebuy because there is no queue...

It is also possible that if 10 people join the queue, they can open a new table and make into a bigger tournament..

So, it is similar to a rebuy, but, nobody is guaranteed to get back in before the hour expires..

I saw a guy, low stacked, looking at the clock, 1 min remaining, go all-in because if he lost, he would get twice the number of chips he was holding by doing an alternate, unfortunately, the person at the front of the queue got his seat, so he really should have checked the size of the queue before deciding on his dumb bet..!!


I don't believe the UK legislation allows you to buy in again after you bust.


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: deputydawg on August 30, 2007, 06:48:22 PM
is an alternate also a player who enters the comp once another player is knocked out?

Alternates buy in to the comp once it is full and wait for players to get knocked out before they can take part, usually just for the first couple of levels - at least that's what happens in Vegas


Title: Re: Buying into live events online?
Post by: TightEnd on August 30, 2007, 06:57:51 PM
I refer you to the answer I gave some weeks ago re alternates

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=26701.0