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Title: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 01:14:56 PM 2007/08 UEFA Champions League Group stage draw - 18.00CET, Thursday POT 1 Team Pairing AC Milan (ITA, holders) A FC Barcelona (ESP) B Liverpool FC (ENG) C FC Internazionale Milano (ITA) A Arsenal FC (ENG) D Real Madrid CF (ESP) B Chelsea FC (ENG) D Manchester United FC (ENG) C POT 2 Team Pairing Valencia CF (ESP) E Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) F FC Porto (POR) Sevilla FC (ESP) / AEK Athens FC (GRE) E/M PSV Eindhoven (NED) AS Roma (ITA) G SL Benfica (POR) H Werder Bremen (GER) I POT 3 Team Pairing Celtic FC (SCO) J FC Schalke 04 (GER) VfB Stuttgart (GER) I FC Steaua Bucureşti (ROU) PFC CSKA Moskva (RUS) Sporting Clube de Portugal (POR) H S.S. Lazio (ITA) G Olympique de Marseille (FRA) F POT 4 Team Pairing Rangers FC (SCO) J FC Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) K Beşiktaş JK (TUR) L Olympiacos CFP (GRE) M FC Dynamo Kyiv (UKR) K Fenerbahçe SK (TUR) L SK Slavia Praha (CZE) Rosenborg BK (NOR) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 01:22:04 PM easiest group for rangers
arsenal psv steaua bucharest rangers hardest group barcelona lyon schalke rangers most glamourous chelsea sevilla lazio rangers Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 01:24:51 PM easiest group for rangers arsenal psv steaua bucharest rangers hardest group barcelona lyon schalke rangers most glamourous chelsea sevilla lazio rangers what does it matter - you're only playing for a spot in the UEFA cup either way............ ;whistle; Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 01:36:10 PM not if we get arsenal psv and steaua.
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 01:38:38 PM not if we get arsenal psv and steaua. If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage. Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2 Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Suited_Jock on August 30, 2007, 01:42:09 PM Am I right in thinking Celtic could draw rangers?
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 01:44:53 PM no, you cannot play a team from the same country in the group stages or first round of the knockout draw
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Suited_Jock on August 30, 2007, 01:48:15 PM K,
I was thinking that but then wasn't sure.. I take it that's what the letter means beside pairing.. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Rod Paradise on August 30, 2007, 01:52:01 PM I take it that's what the letter means beside pairing.. Yep, there's a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works somewhere on t'interweb. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: lazaroonie on August 30, 2007, 02:01:29 PM not if we get arsenal psv and steaua. If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage. Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2 what odds to qualify if Celtic draw Arsenal and PSV ? ;whistle; ;whistle; Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 02:02:34 PM a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages. how can you make that horrendously complicated? :dontask: though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!! :D Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 02:03:30 PM not if we get arsenal psv and steaua. If that is your group i'll double the best odds you can find of rangers to qualify to next stage. Regardless of your group you will struggle to finish top 2 what odds to qualify if Celtic draw Arsenal and PSV ? ;whistle; ;whistle; i'll give you half the odds. monkey matt the honest bookmaker......... ;) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: johnbhoy76 on August 30, 2007, 02:04:52 PM going by recent seasons in the CL I'd say Inter are the weakest of the top seeds.
They only won Serie A because every other big club was either relegated or docked points. they have been very poor in Europe (compared to the other top seeds) If Rangers get Arsenal it wont even be funny what Arsenal would do to rangers. Can't understand why you would want Arsenal. The group I'd like to see Celtic get First of all in terms of just going through Inter Porto Celtic Rosenborg I think we'd have a real crack at getting through that group. Porto are in pot 2 based on past glory's but are nowhere near as good as they once were under Mourinho In terms of glamour. I'd go for Real Madrid Roma Celtic Olympiakos Although I think that would be goodnight vienna for the hoops Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: lazaroonie on August 30, 2007, 02:08:49 PM a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages. how can you make that horrendously complicated? :dontask: though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!! :D actually I am little bit annoyed about the seedings - they are making the draw today before the final match (seville vs somebody) has been played, because the player died at the weekend. now seville are in pot two, but the team they are playing are potentially "pot four". This would mean, if the match was played before the draw, and the other team go thru, celtic would move up to pot two(cos a pot two team has been knocked out). Instead what they are going to do, is make the draw, then play the final qualifying match and if it does mean that the other team knock seville out, they are going to put them into pot 2, therefore preserving the draw made today. quite frankly its ridiculous. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 02:12:35 PM a horrendously complicated explanation of how it works two teams from the same country cannot be placed in the same group or play each other in the first knockout round, nor can two teams who finish first and second in the same group be paired together in the knock out stages. how can you make that horrendously complicated? :dontask: though knowing UEFA and FIFA best not to answer that!! :D actually I am little bit annoyed about the seedings - they are making the draw today before the final match (seville vs somebody) has been played, because the player died at the weekend. now seville are in pot two, but the team they are playing are potentially "pot four". This would mean, if the match was played before the draw, and the other team go thru, celtic would move up to pot two(cos a pot two team has been knocked out). Instead what they are going to do, is make the draw, then play the final qualifying match and if it does mean that the other team knock seville out, they are going to put them into pot 2, therefore preserving the draw made today. quite frankly its ridiculous. there's more chance of rangers making the knockout stages of the champions league than there is of AEK Athens being in the group stages.................. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: dan on August 30, 2007, 02:19:40 PM I would love to get one of the Scottish teams in our group,(and before you have a go at me) not because I think it will be an easy game but it would be a good crack to go to.
We always seem to get shit draws in the groups in regards of places to go Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 02:23:43 PM I would love to get one of the Scottish teams in our group,(and before you have a go at me) not because I think it will be an easy game but it would be a good crack to go to. We always seem to get shit draws in the groups in regards of places to go they gave you the s**t draws because UEFA wanted to have a good laugh at Dennis Berkamp travelling 70,000 miles by car every year. Now he's retired you'll probably get draws closer to home............ Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: dan on August 30, 2007, 02:31:15 PM I would love to get one of the Scottish teams in our group,(and before you have a go at me) not because I think it will be an easy game but it would be a good crack to go to. We always seem to get shit draws in the groups in regards of places to go they gave you the s**t draws because UEFA wanted to have a good laugh at Dennis Berkamp travelling 70,000 miles by car every year. Now he's retired you'll probably get draws closer to home............ rotflmfao Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: The Baron on August 30, 2007, 02:44:38 PM I'd love to draw Celtic in our group. The pissup would be immense. :)
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 03:22:14 PM I'd love to draw Celtic in our group. The pissup would be immense. :) Agreed. Also be a great atmosphere in the ground as well. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Rod Paradise on August 30, 2007, 03:31:44 PM I'd love to draw Celtic in our group. The pissup would be immense. :) Agreed. Also be a great atmosphere in the ground as well. Hate to admit it, but I'd rather avoid Liverpool this season - your team's looking good. Not bothered if we get any of the other 3 though. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: The Baron on August 30, 2007, 04:08:09 PM I'd love to draw Celtic in our group. The pissup would be immense. :) Agreed. Also be a great atmosphere in the ground as well. Hate to admit it, but I'd rather avoid Liverpool this season - your team's looking good. Not bothered if we get any of the other 3 though. In footballing terms I'd rather avoid Celtic if I'm honest! But it'd be a hell of a night! Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Teacake on August 30, 2007, 05:02:11 PM If Celtic get an English team my preference would be Arsenal as we haven't played them before competitively & would love to go the Emirates
Good luck all* here we go *with the obvious exception of Rangers who carry enough luck already ;D Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:28:18 PM I would love to get one of the Scottish teams in our group,(and before you have a go at me) not because I think it will be an easy game but it would be a good crack to go to. We always seem to get shit draws in the groups in regards of places to go I hope you get Barca! ;) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:29:39 PM not if we get arsenal psv and steaua. lmao...nice to see people still underestimate PSV after the last few seasons in the CL. I do hope they get rangers as I'll be getting some good odds if we play them Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:30:52 PM http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/europe/6970924.stm
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:32:24 PM I would love to get one of the Scottish teams in our group,(and before you have a go at me) not because I think it will be an easy game but it would be a good crack to go to. We always seem to get shit draws in the groups in regards of places to go I hope you get Barca! ;) Just realised that this would be impossible ;noflopshomer; Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:34:26 PM PSV got inter?...thank you god..won't be easy but I'll take it over barca any time :)
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 05:38:08 PM Draw (so far)....
Quote Group A LIVERPOOL Porto Marseille xxxxxxxxxxx Group B CHELSEA Valencia Schalke 04 xxxxxxxxxxx Group C REAL MADRID Werder Bremen Lazio xxxxxxxxxxx Group D AC MILAN Benfica Celtic xxxxxxxxxxx Group E BARCELONA Lyon Stuttgart xxxxxxxxxxx Group F MANCHESTER UNITED Roma Sporting Lisbon xxxxxxxxxxx Group G INTER MILAN PSV Eindhoven CSKA Moscow xxxxxxxxxxx Group H ARSENAL Sevilla/AEK Athens Steau Bucharest xxxxxxxxxxx Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: happybhoy on August 30, 2007, 05:38:28 PM God they don't half milk this for all it's worth. Draw the feckin balls already
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:43:35 PM crap the one team (other than Celtic who are very strong at home) I didn't want to draw is CSKA..possible to beat of course but a very decent side..now bring me Rangers!
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: BigTomatoes on August 30, 2007, 05:44:36 PM deja vu , AC Milan , Benfica , Celtic , ???? , at least we have nothing to fear. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:48:28 PM thusfar says the beeb
Group A LIVERPOOL Porto Marseille xxxxxxxxxxx Group B CHELSEA Valencia Schalke 04 xxxxxxxxxxx Group C REAL MADRID Werder Bremen Lazio xxxxxxxxxxx Group D AC MILAN Benfica Celtic xxxxxxxxxxx Group E BARCELONA Lyon Stuttgart xxxxxxxxxxx Group F MANCHESTER UNITED Roma Sporting Lisbon xxxxxxxxxxx Group G INTER MILAN PSV Eindhoven CSKA Moscow xxxxxxxxxxx Group H ARSENAL Sevilla/AEK Athens Steau Bucharest xxxxxxxxxxx Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:49:37 PM The draw is teh rigged
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:51:29 PM rangers got barca!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: henrik777 on August 30, 2007, 05:52:15 PM Will Rangers get a point ???
:D Sandy Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:54:31 PM Will Rangers get a point ??? You've got the same draw as last year!:D Sandy Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 05:55:17 PM Will Rangers get a point ??? :D Sandy now that could be a good beat..Rangers to get less than 4 points..a very real possibility. Celtic got Shaktar to finish the group...tricky stuff..you need to improve an awfull lot to go through Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: BigTomatoes on August 30, 2007, 05:56:23 PM shaktar Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:57:39 PM Group A
LIVERPOOL Porto Marseille Besiktas Group B CHELSEA Valencia Schalke 04 Rosenborg Group C REAL MADRID Werder Bremen Lazio Olympiakos Group D AC MILAN Benfica Celtic Shakhtar Donetsk Group E BARCELONA Lyon Stuttgart Rangers Group F MANCHESTER UNITED Roma Sporting Lisbon Dynamo Kiev Group G INTER MILAN PSV Eindhoven CSKA Moscow Fenerbahce Group H ARSENAL Sevilla/AEK Athens Steau Bucharest Slavia Prague Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: kinboshi on August 30, 2007, 05:58:20 PM (http://www.yappari.co.uk/wp-content/images/blonde/draw.png)
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: henrik777 on August 30, 2007, 05:58:25 PM It's not the easiest group ever but i'd have taken it prior to the draw as it could have been a lot worse.
Rangers have the hardest group that was available to them. Sandy Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: dan on August 30, 2007, 05:58:49 PM Seville, S Bucherest, S Prague.
Nice enough group. Seville will be tough dont know too much about Bucherest but Slava Prague are weaker than Sparta who we comfortably beat in the qualifiers so shold go through with no probs. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Graham C on August 30, 2007, 05:59:48 PM Nice group for Arsenal, pleased with that.
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 05:59:54 PM Seville, S Bucherest, S Prague. Nice enough group. Seville will be tough dont know too much about Bucherest but Slava Prague are weaker than Sparta who we comfortably beat in the qualifiers so shold go through with no probs. Lucky Arsenal! Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 06:01:09 PM what are the odds on both scottish teams not qualifying?..1-2?..evens?
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Nem on August 30, 2007, 06:03:29 PM what are the odds on both scottish teams not qualifying?..1-2?..evens? 50/50 they either qualify, or they don't... I would say 1/50 :D Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Karabiner on August 30, 2007, 06:03:41 PM Seville, S Bucherest, S Prague. Nice enough group. Seville will be tough dont know too much about Bucherest but Slava Prague are weaker than Sparta who we comfortably beat in the qualifiers so shold go through with no probs. Lucky Arsenal! Glad we got to go to Eastern Europe rather than Turkey. Wouldn't fancy swopping with the 'gers ::) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 06:04:52 PM what does it matter - you're only playing for a spot in the UEFA cup either way............ ;whistle; Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Karabiner on August 30, 2007, 06:08:53 PM what are the odds on both scottish teams not qualifying?..1-2?..evens? Well I'd say that Celtic are probably around even money to qually, and Rangers might be 5/1. So I'd estimate that the odds of them both not quallying is around 5/4. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 30, 2007, 06:36:19 PM I'm more excited by the Rangers draw than I am about Celtic :) Ohh the Rangers are out before its even kicked off. And with Watty's tactics it will be like the good old days when the teddy bears got embarassed by 4 and 5 goals at a time ha ha ha ha ha love it!
I wish they'd hurry up and draw the fixtures I have flights to book! Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 06:54:37 PM its a glamour group for rangers. 6 excellent mathches
barcelona will pump us twice, no doubt and no shame in that. as for lyon, heard they ve been poor under alain perrain, and have sold some players, any1 got info on this? lyon of recent years have been excellent, are they really on the down swing? stuttgart were fluke winners of german league it seems, solid enough, but not as good as schalke or werder, and a very poor bayern last season. schalke play them tomorrow on setanta so will have a look. i think we would need 6 pts here. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: cambo on August 30, 2007, 07:07:54 PM great group will deff make the effort to go to barca
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: BigTomatoes on August 30, 2007, 07:11:26 PM stuttgart were fluke winners of german league of course , Rangers will pump them then. how anyone can fluke winning the Bundesliga is beyond me , one of the toughest leagues in Europe. take your Blue glasses off for once and admit you have little chance of getting anthing out of this group. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 07:21:51 PM stuttgart were fluke winners of german league of course , Rangers will pump them then. how anyone can fluke winning the Bundesliga is beyond me , one of the toughest leagues in Europe. take your Blue glasses off for once and admit you have little chance of getting anthing out of this group. yeah...you don't fluke winning a league. Just admit Rangers will have a torrid time and be surprised if they do well. (like I did when PSV got to the semis against AC milan two years ago..(and of course ballsed it up in the last minute TWICE! :( Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 30, 2007, 07:25:13 PM great group will deff make the effort to go to barca Ryanair - Prestwick to Girona matey. £10 return on the bus to Barcelona. Plenty of decent hostels/hotels off Las Ramblas at decent prices. If you have never been there before I'd deffo recoomend it. Might even be worth considering a wee week in Salou or something! Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 07:26:44 PM great group will deff make the effort to go to barca Ryanair - Prestwick to Girona matey. £10 return on the bus to Barcelona. Plenty of decent hostels/hotels off Las Ramblas at decent prices. If you have never been there before I'd deffo recoomend it. Might even be worth considering a wee week in Salou or something! Salou.didn't Chelski buy him last week? Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 07:28:23 PM its a glamour group for rangers. 6 excellent mathches barcelona will pump us twice, no doubt and no shame in that. as for lyon, heard they ve been poor under alain perrain, and have sold some players, any1 got info on this? lyon of recent years have been excellent, are they really on the down swing? stuttgart were fluke winners of german league it seems, solid enough, but not as good as schalke or werder, and a very poor bayern last season. schalke play them tomorrow on setanta so will have a look. i think we would need 6 pts here. If you're that confident then my earlier offer still stands ;) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 30, 2007, 08:00:05 PM Whats the craic with releasing the fixture list?
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: lazaroonie on August 30, 2007, 08:14:09 PM just out I heard...
Benfica v Celtic 24th October Milan vs Celtic 4th December. (last game of the group!) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 08:49:22 PM Wednesday, September 19 - VfB Stuttgart (h)
Tuesday, October 2 - Lyon (a) Tuesday, October 23 - Barcelona (h) Wednesday, November 7 - Barcelona (a) Tuesday, November 27 - Stuttgart (a) Wednesday, December 12 - Lyon (h) well at least we will last longer than celtic, they ll be out dec 11th Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: matt674 on August 30, 2007, 08:54:05 PM Wednesday, September 19 - VfB Stuttgart (h) Tuesday, October 2 - Lyon (a) Tuesday, October 23 - Barcelona (h) Wednesday, November 7 - Barcelona (a) Tuesday, November 27 - Stuttgart (a) Wednesday, December 12 - Lyon (h) well at least we will last longer than celtic, they ll be out dec 11th looking at those fixtures it could be argued that you'll be out by 7th November. Of all the fixtures in the group you've got the one that you hope will get you off to the best start.......... Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 08:56:16 PM november 7th cambo, sounds like a plan.
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 09:00:06 PM Wednesday, September 19 - VfB Stuttgart (h) Tuesday, October 2 - Lyon (a) Tuesday, October 23 - Barcelona (h) Wednesday, November 7 - Barcelona (a) Tuesday, November 27 - Stuttgart (a) Wednesday, December 12 - Lyon (h) well at least we will last longer than celtic, they ll be out dec 11th looking at those fixtures it could be argued that you'll be out by 7th November. Of all the fixtures in the group you've got the one that you hope will get you off to the best start.......... yep..don't win the first one and that's rangers effectively out Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 09:01:14 PM manu not to qualify, very tough group @ 1.29
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 09:04:50 PM Wednesday, September 19 - VfB Stuttgart (h) Tuesday, October 2 - Lyon (a) Tuesday, October 23 - Barcelona (h) Wednesday, November 7 - Barcelona (a) Tuesday, November 27 - Stuttgart (a) Wednesday, December 12 - Lyon (h) well at least we will last longer than celtic, they ll be out dec 11th looking at those fixtures it could be argued that you'll be out by 7th November. Of all the fixtures in the group you've got the one that you hope will get you off to the best start.......... yep..don't win the first one and that's rangers effectively out well psv have just sold thier best player to thier group rivals, kone to sevilla. wp, psv, wp *fergus8 taps table* Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: fergus8 on August 30, 2007, 09:16:49 PM arsenal always get the uefa cup group, always eastern european mince. how many times do arsenal get THE easiest group?
Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: boldie on August 30, 2007, 10:03:42 PM Wednesday, September 19 - VfB Stuttgart (h) Tuesday, October 2 - Lyon (a) Tuesday, October 23 - Barcelona (h) Wednesday, November 7 - Barcelona (a) Tuesday, November 27 - Stuttgart (a) Wednesday, December 12 - Lyon (h) well at least we will last longer than celtic, they ll be out dec 11th looking at those fixtures it could be argued that you'll be out by 7th November. Of all the fixtures in the group you've got the one that you hope will get you off to the best start.......... yep..don't win the first one and that's rangers effectively out well psv have just sold thier best player to thier group rivals, kone to sevilla. wp, psv, wp *fergus8 taps table* lol..yes that's what happens when you have top class players playing for you in a small league. You have to sell them on. V Nistelrooij, robben, Kezman now Kone. So we sell them to other, bigger, clubs..it happens..we have a good scouting system we have plenty more good players where they came from. Maybe Rangers will have some in the future and be able to sell them on?..you never know..they might actually stop buying second rate over priced players from teams like Hibs or third rate French players :) Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: Teacake on August 30, 2007, 10:13:19 PM great group will deff make the effort to go to barca If you get the chance you must go, just try & leave the Camp Nou intact this time ;whistle; Bit dissapointed with our draw, been there done that, I was hoping for Real or Arsenal. AC will cruise it, not much in it between Celtic, Benfica & Shaktar hopefully our home form can take us through although I don't like the order of our fixtures. Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: dan on August 30, 2007, 10:16:15 PM arsenal always get the uefa cup group, always eastern european mince. how many times do arsenal get THE easiest group? we havent, we couldve got Rangers Title: Re: champs league draw Post by: GlasgowBandit on August 30, 2007, 11:41:29 PM great group will deff make the effort to go to barca If you get the chance you must go, just try & leave the Camp Nou intact this time ;whistle; Bit dissapointed with our draw, been there done that, I was hoping for Real or Arsenal. AC will cruise it, not much in it between Celtic, Benfica & Shaktar hopefully our home form can take us through although I don't like the order of our fixtures. I agree with most of what you say mate but I do quite like the match order. We could be going to San Siro with AC already through may make things a little easier for us. Plus we could get off to a good start if we ebat Shaktar get some points on the board and hopefully get 4 from benfica games. |