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Title: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: KarmaDope on September 16, 2007, 05:22:25 PM PokerStars Game #12090519736: Tournament #60481655, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level I (10/20) - 2007/09/16 - 12:05:06 (ET)
Table '60481655 39' 9-max Seat #7 is the button Seat 1: hoo_ma (5250 in chips) Seat 2: 73045 (4270 in chips) Seat 3: dear_diary (5550 in chips) Seat 4: grafikon (5410 in chips) Seat 5: ticker4 (4750 in chips) Seat 6: sharplea (4820 in chips) Seat 7: indyglass (4970 in chips) Seat 8: chillinmcm (4980 in chips) is sitting out Seat 9: gravel06 (5000 in chips) chillinmcm: posts small blind 10 gravel06: posts big blind 20 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to sharplea [Kh As] hoo_ma: folds 73045: folds dear_diary: raises 40 to 60 grafikon: calls 60 ticker4: folds sharplea: raises 140 to 200 indyglass: folds chillinmcm: folds gravel06: folds dear_diary: calls 140 grafikon: calls 140 *** FLOP *** [8s 3c 6c] dear_diary: checks grafikon: checks sharplea: bets 500 dear_diary: calls 500 grafikon: folds *** TURN *** [8s 3c 6c] [3s] dear_diary: checks sharplea: bets 840 dear_diary: calls 840 *** RIVER *** [8s 3c 6c 3s] [Tc] dear_diary: checks sharplea: bets 3280 and is all-in dear_diary: folds sharplea collected 3310 from pot sharplea: shows [Kh As] (a pair of Threes) *** SUMMARY *** Total pot 3310 | Rake 0 Board [8s 3c 6c 3s Tc] Seat 1: hoo_ma folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: 73045 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 3: dear_diary folded on the River Seat 4: grafikon folded on the Flop Seat 5: ticker4 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: sharplea collected (3310) Seat 7: indyglass (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 8: chillinmcm (small blind) folded before Flop Seat 9: gravel06 (big blind) folded before Flop This guy had been very aggressive since the start and had raised with A9off etc, hands like that. All in all, a typical hyper aggressive Italian player. Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: boldie on September 16, 2007, 05:30:50 PM as long as you know he can lay the hand down it's a good bluff. if you have him marked as a calling station I wouldn't make the river bet.
Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: KarmaDope on September 16, 2007, 05:33:23 PM as long as you know he can lay the hand down it's a good bluff. if you have him marked as a calling station I wouldn't make the river bet. He had check-called all the way through, and took ages to call the turn, even going into his time bank. I think I made the right play, just the abuse I was getting from the table afterwards led me to question it... Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: boldie on September 16, 2007, 05:53:56 PM as long as you know he can lay the hand down it's a good bluff. if you have him marked as a calling station I wouldn't make the river bet. He had check-called all the way through, and took ages to call the turn, even going into his time bank. I think I made the right play, just the abuse I was getting from the table afterwards led me to question it... yeah but who cares about abuse you get from people you are playing against? Must mean you're doing something right I think :) Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: NoflopsHomer on September 16, 2007, 06:04:43 PM Only advice is don't show. ;)
Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: temp0r on September 16, 2007, 06:38:14 PM yeah you definately shouldn't of shown it. given the fact he took ages to call on the turn then yeah it looks like he's got A8 or 99 and could probably lay it down. however i still don't like shoving on that club. what if he had a pair with a flush draw?! A8 of clubs probably thinks a while before calling on the turn. but i guess if you're gonna overplay AK on the flop you might aswell overplay it the whole way through aye ;)
Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: Ironside on September 17, 2007, 12:14:10 AM only way i would show here is if i am going to sit back and wait for hands
think its a bit early to show the bluff Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: KarmaDope on September 17, 2007, 12:16:05 AM only way i would show here is if i am going to sit back and wait for hands think its a bit early to show the bluff Thats what I do in Deep Stack tourneys, best way to play them, IMO. No point in getting involved with marginals early, as the fish in there will always call you and you get screwed over. Title: Re: Donkey play or just a bloody good bluff? Post by: AlexMartin on September 17, 2007, 07:39:44 AM Yukk. I cant see many hands he is check calling with that you can beat on the club river. You are not going to bet massive on the river with a big overpair as you would (rightly) be scared of the flush arriving. I you rr preflop and love that board, your river all-in can only mean a bluff.
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