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Title: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: AdamG on October 12, 2007, 11:21:41 AM
Game #5868774224: Hold'em NL ($1/$2) - 2007/10/12 - 11:15:52 (BST)
Table "Marieville" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: CuteMandy ($194.65 in chips)
Seat 2: REDEYEZ ($233.85 in chips)
Seat 3: miracle ($190 in chips)
Seat 4: pr1mate ($412.95 in chips)
Seat 5: Ferrari ($367.55 in chips)
Seat 6: Agentu ($198 in chips)
Agentu: posts small blind $1
CuteMandy: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Ferrari [ Qs Qc ]
REDEYEZ: raises to $8
miracle: folds
pr1mate: calls $8
Ferrari: calls $8
Agentu: folds
CuteMandy: folds
----- FLOP ----- [7d Jc 9d]
REDEYEZ: checks
pr1mate: checks
Ferrari: bets $14
REDEYEZ: raises to $32
pr1mate: folds
Ferrari: raises to $62
REDEYEZ: raises to $225.85 and is all-in
Ferrari: folds
Returned uncalled bets $163.85 to REDEYEZ
REDEYEZ: doesn't show hand
REDEYEZ collected $148 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $151 Main pot $148 Rake $3
Board [7d Jc 9d]
Seat 1: CuteMandy (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 2: REDEYEZ collected $148
Seat 3: miracle folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: pr1mate folded on the Flop
Seat 5: Ferrari (button) folded on the Flop
Seat 6: Agentu (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)


i folded in the end putting him on set or AA KK as he usually c-bets and when he check raises it usually isnt with nothing, i reraise to find out IF he has the monster, i believe he did.


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: TEX FITZ on October 12, 2007, 11:34:46 AM
 8d Td  poss ?


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: AdamG on October 12, 2007, 11:45:09 AM
then im bummed lol....nuts on flop, and diamonds hehe

u would pass QQ here right?


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: TEX FITZ on October 12, 2007, 12:20:09 PM
Liked your half pot bet on the flop, but would probably have flat called his raise. He could be flushing, Ad Kd  but he,s commited to the pot anyway (all-in).
If you had called his raise and no diamond comes on the turn, would he then be still commited ?

Or he could have higher PP than the board, trying to take it down

either way i fold, wait for better spot in position


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: Longy on October 12, 2007, 01:04:48 PM
I 3 bet this preflop like 99% of the time, surely he isn't opening so tight that your not ahead of his range.

Well i think you get your answer once he 4 bets i can't see a hand you have crushed doing this, but alot of hands that have you crushed. He obv could be getting frisky with a combo draw or  Ad Kd but that is like your best outcome. I think this is standard pass now.

I think i prob flat call his re raise on the flop and re assess on the turn. I think the whole hand has become complicated because of the flat call preflop.


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: temp0r on October 12, 2007, 01:14:06 PM
 Ad Jd and  Ad Kd are the ONLY TWO HANDS YOU BEAT. from the one hand history i can see of this player he is weak passive player. so i think the AJ sooted is probably more probable than the AK sooted. however i still think the most likely holding is JJ. pretty standard fold for me at this limit without info.


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: temp0r on October 12, 2007, 01:15:22 PM
8d Td  poss ?

the raised utg. if someone was to do that at this limit with junk like that they'd lead the flop 80% of the time.


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: AdamG on October 12, 2007, 06:46:44 PM
ok, well i was playing super tight & have played REDEYEZ alot on crypto so thought i was behind.

he isnt really a weak passive player but he is usually a person who continuation bets flop no matter what, thought the check raise was weird so thought id repop see if he's at it, as sometimes he does, but i got played back at so thought i was crushed 90%


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: AlexMartin on October 13, 2007, 05:22:31 PM
solid pass, wp. Incidentally i like 3betting QQ pre, esp when action gets multiway. You always flat cal this spot Adam?


Title: Re: Standard pass with QQ ? or call ?
Post by: AdamG on October 14, 2007, 03:21:00 AM
solid pass, wp. Incidentally i like 3betting QQ pre, esp when action gets multiway. You always flat cal this spot Adam?

not always, no.

i like to mix up my play , i usualy 3 / 4 bet him pre flop find out if hes strong / mediocure.