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Title: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: maxward on October 23, 2007, 03:54:04 PM
Bit of dilemma;

I recently spent a lot of money on a new N band router, modem and range booster - all D-LINK.  This was to replace my old Netgear G band wireless modem router, whcih had always had poor coverage on my house.  The press and spec reports all say N band is far greater coverage and faster. My house is only a three bed semi, nothing spectacular by any means.  The problem is that I have bought it and the wireless range is virtually no different to the old g band.  I have called there tech support and nobody is any the wiser as to why.  Some rooms are better than others and with everything the way it is I cant reloacte the router to any funky locations, so it lives in the office at the top/back of the house. I want to use it mainly in the living room but signal is just 40/50% and disconncets quiet frequently.

Given ive spent well over £200 on this lot and invested a couple of weeks in trying to rectify it all, the obvious answer seems to be to send it back and get a refund. That maybe easier than hoped but i think thats the plan.  I was just wondering what everyone else uses? What problems thet have had and if anyone has any advice?  I want to be able to play wireless, but the money ive lost on dissconnects is getting silly now!

Also, bizarley, my adsl point has a filter on it but when i pick up the phone the adsl connection goes and the modem has to redial. Tech support are no help. Tried three filters, no obvious reason why. Help anyone?


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: ifm on October 23, 2007, 04:14:49 PM
Only thing i can think of is filter, make sure you only have one and at the last socket.
I mean if you have an extension don't make the mistake of having a filter on both ends.
Basic i know but a we are talking Ockam's razor today :D

Other than that what about your wireless adapter on the lappy?


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 23, 2007, 04:40:00 PM
If you have absolutely no joy with wireless (after checking the filter, etc.), there's always homeplug.

I posted on here about it ages ago, and it's a viable alternative to wireless (not as portable obviously, but useful for extending internet access around a 3-bed semi!).

These jobbies:  http://www.ebuyer.com/product/111402



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 23, 2007, 04:42:52 PM
40%-50% is fine and all you will get with any router throughout your house so take it back and save the £200 if you can.

Do you have a microfilter on all of your phone sockets? Even the ones that have nothing plugged in and that your modem isn't connected to?

Before I read the bit about picking your phone up and getting cut off, I was going to suggest DECT phone interferance and changing the wirless channel. But as the disconnects are from the ADSL connection not the wireless connection (*is that right? sounds like it) then it probably isn't that.

*Have you connected via a network cable? Do you still lose your connection you should if it's your ADSL connection that is dropping not your wireless.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 23, 2007, 04:44:02 PM
If you have absolutely no joy with wireless (after checking the filter, etc.), there's always homeplug.

I posted on here about it ages ago, and it's a viable alternative to wireless (not as portable obviously, but useful for extending internet access around a 3-bed semi!).  I'll have a look for the post...



What happens when your downstairs ring main and upstairs ring mains are seperate  ;whistle; Might as well run a network cable and save £100.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: M3boy on October 25, 2007, 01:40:52 AM
40-50%?

I get 90% and upwards everywhere in my house - and its 3 stories.



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: Bongo on October 25, 2007, 01:47:52 AM
Tried three filters, no obvious reason why. Help anyone?

Different types of filter?

I know there was a faulty batch around a whole back.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 25, 2007, 03:11:21 AM
40-50%?

I get 90% and upwards everywhere in my house - and its 3 stories.



Your software is lying  ;whistle;


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 25, 2007, 08:58:44 AM
If you have absolutely no joy with wireless (after checking the filter, etc.), there's always homeplug.

I posted on here about it ages ago, and it's a viable alternative to wireless (not as portable obviously, but useful for extending internet access around a 3-bed semi!).  I'll have a look for the post...



What happens when your downstairs ring main and upstairs ring mains are seperate  ;whistle; Might as well run a network cable and save £100.

You need your house rewiring... ;D


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 25, 2007, 05:05:34 PM
If you have absolutely no joy with wireless (after checking the filter, etc.), there's always homeplug.

I posted on here about it ages ago, and it's a viable alternative to wireless (not as portable obviously, but useful for extending internet access around a 3-bed semi!).  I'll have a look for the post...



What happens when your downstairs ring main and upstairs ring mains are seperate  ;whistle; Might as well run a network cable and save £100.

You need your house rewiring... ;D

Did it last month.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 25, 2007, 05:08:26 PM
If you have absolutely no joy with wireless (after checking the filter, etc.), there's always homeplug.

I posted on here about it ages ago, and it's a viable alternative to wireless (not as portable obviously, but useful for extending internet access around a 3-bed semi!).  I'll have a look for the post...



What happens when your downstairs ring main and upstairs ring mains are seperate  ;whistle; Might as well run a network cable and save £100.

You need your house rewiring... ;D

Did it last month.

Both your ring circuits go to the same meter though don't they?  In that case, homeplug will still work fine (if you ever needed to use it, maybe for some sort of home automation stuff).


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 26, 2007, 01:11:22 AM
Hmm, I assumed that they would need to be on the same ring to work. The signal would have to be able to pass through the circuit breakers and RCD. I don't know enought about it to know whether it will or not, but you'll have to show me some proof before I believe it ;)

If the signal passes into another ring main, then it's also in your lighting circuit, which means you could connect a homeplug to one of those. Not at all useful, but I'm expanding it's scope. If the signal goes back as far as your meter etc, then it will go up the line, and your neighbours might be able to get on your network if they have a homeplug...


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 10:28:13 AM
Hmm, I assumed that they would need to be on the same ring to work. The signal would have to be able to pass through the circuit breakers and RCD. I don't know enought about it to know whether it will or not, but you'll have to show me some proof before I believe it ;)

If the signal passes into another ring main, then it's also in your lighting circuit, which means you could connect a homeplug to one of those. Not at all useful, but I'm expanding it's scope. If the signal goes back as far as your meter etc, then it will go up the line, and your neighbours might be able to get on your network if they have a homeplug...

If you share a meter with your neighbours, then yes, they'd be able to access your network.  Not too likely that you know your neighbours that well that you'd share a meter...but you never know.  It won't go beyond the meter (which is effectively where your electricity supply starts and ends).

You can control lighting on your lighting circuit as well with homeplug, as well as other home automation uses.  Have a look here: http://www.homeplug.org/home/  as I think the thread is moving more and more off-topic.



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 26, 2007, 01:01:37 PM
I've looked there already, and any useful more than superfluous information is well hidden.

What stops the signal going past your meter then? I don't see who they can control that. It either goes down all wires or it doesn't.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 01:32:55 PM
I've looked there already, and any useful more than superfluous information is well hidden.

What stops the signal going past your meter then? I don't see who they can control that. It either goes down all wires or it doesn't.

Magic.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 01:34:21 PM
But seriously, from what I've read homeplug won't work through an electricity meter because of something to do with electrical phases or something (I don't really understand).



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 01:37:42 PM
Oh, and if you're really paranoid, you can add encryption to your homeplug setup.



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 26, 2007, 03:42:54 PM
Oh, and if you're really paranoid, you can add encryption to your homeplug setup.



Well I won't be using it. I'd rather run a network cable seeing as I have 200m of it.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 26, 2007, 07:25:06 PM
Oh, and if you're really paranoid, you can add encryption to your homeplug setup.



Well I won't be using it. I'd rather run a network cable seeing as I have 200m of it.

You wouldn't need it then. 



Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: RichEO on October 27, 2007, 07:45:01 PM
I won't, but never know when someone will want me to set one up for them tho, and helps to know a little about it.


Title: Re: IT/Wireless help anyone?
Post by: kinboshi on October 27, 2007, 08:09:54 PM
Easiest thing in the world to set up.  Proper 'plug' n play.