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Title: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 24, 2007, 06:27:32 PM
Tomorrow is Grosvenor Grand Prix Day and yours truly will be alongside Dana to bring you all the ringside action.

This tourneys always a success, which is somewhat odd considering the huge popularity of No Limit Hold'Em in today's game.

Two questions:

(1) Who is going?

and...

(2) Should more Festival Main Events be Pot Limit?


Title: Re: Grosvenor Gran Prix
Post by: TightEnd on October 24, 2007, 06:30:24 PM
(2) not main events but more PL events across festivals I would welcome..enjoy playing them and think its a test of skill whereas NL at some stages of tournaments is primarily muscle and aggression

Of course the welcome success of the GUKPTs means the traditional festival circuit is marginalised these days, which is a shame but understandable given the crowded nature of the schedule


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: ericstoner on October 24, 2007, 06:50:42 PM
Final final supersat on blue square at 7:30 tonight


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: RobS on October 24, 2007, 07:07:58 PM
1) http://www.grosvenorgrandprix.com/results.html

2) NO!


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: Snatiramas on October 24, 2007, 09:36:41 PM
They are going to have to add a lot of money this year.....wish i could be there


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 24, 2007, 09:56:23 PM
The live update thread is up and running now...

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=28438.0 (http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=28438.0)

Let us know if there's anyone you want us to keep an eye on.


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: UpTheMariners on October 24, 2007, 10:00:12 PM
i dont think they will be adding that much money there was around 330 last year, they cant be far off that now.

1. yes

2. nice to have a pot limit tournament everynow and then!


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: snoopy1239 on October 24, 2007, 11:09:53 PM
Assuming that people would be put off if many Festival Main Events were made Pot Limit, is there a particular reason why this one remains so popular? Is it just the location or are people attracted by the idea that it's a qualify only event. Should we have more of these?


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: TightEnd on October 24, 2007, 11:13:06 PM
1 Its a huge prize pool for a small satellite outlay

2 the event is established in an established venue

3 the field is considered weaker (not sure this is always true) as a lot of the better known festival circuit players don't play it (again not always true but thats the rep)


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: celtic on October 24, 2007, 11:59:26 PM
Why is it the good people of Luton werent interested in this comp? only 10ish qualifiers from there and about 50 from wallsall, including 12 last night. Know its their 'local' but the sats were really poorly attended at luton


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: jcnev on October 25, 2007, 08:58:45 AM
Any ideas of the number runners that are expected for the £200 F/O on Saturday at Walsall.


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: TightEnd on October 25, 2007, 10:34:21 AM
Why is it the good people of Luton werent interested in this comp? only 10ish qualifiers from there and about 50 from wallsall, including 12 last night. Know its their 'local' but the sats were really poorly attended at luton


because someone who shall not be named put the satellites in the diary as 50 rebuy not 100 rebuy

Once they were in the diary the club was committed to run them as 50 rebuy , guaranteeing the sats wouldn't make any seats

Add to that erratic scheduling, for example Saturday nights when you won't find many of us anywhere near the place due to the clientele it attracts and you get your answer

Furthermore the 10-20 or so punters who turned up for each sat all agreed to play them as semi-freezeouts...again no chance of Luton providing many players


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: celtic on October 25, 2007, 01:08:18 PM
Why is it the good people of Luton werent interested in this comp? only 10ish qualifiers from there and about 50 from wallsall, including 12 last night. Know its their 'local' but the sats were really poorly attended at luton


because someone who shall not be named put the satellites in the diary as 50 rebuy not 100 rebuy

Once they were in the diary the club was committed to run them as 50 rebuy , guaranteeing the sats wouldn't make any seats

Add to that erratic scheduling, for example Saturday nights when you won't find many of us anywhere near the place due to the clientele it attracts and you get your answer

Furthermore the 10-20 or so punters who turned up for each sat all agreed to play them as semi-freezeouts...again no chance of Luton providing many players


They were £100 rebuys, I played one and we agreed before we started that we would play as a freezout, i was led to believe that regardless of how many rebuys we had there would still only be 2 tickets for 10 of us so there was no value in rebuying. Is this not the case then?


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: TightEnd on October 25, 2007, 01:09:41 PM
the early ones were 50 rebuys

for a 100 rebuy it makes seats according to the prize pool generated does it not, or is it a seat per x runners?


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: winkie on October 25, 2007, 03:34:02 PM
I believe the top 15% of each qualifier got through to the event proper (i.e.not based on the prize pool generated)

As for Luton; can't understand why they organised the qualifiers on Saturdays when the majority of the regulars shy away, and the punters who go for a night out want a regular tourney (i.e. the £4k guarantee they were running)

I'd loved to have got through, as I qualified for the minimum for this tourney last year and I think the format and value are great.

More PLHE comps I say...!



Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: celtic on October 25, 2007, 08:45:33 PM
I believe the top 15% of each qualifier got through to the event proper (i.e.not based on the prize pool generated)

As for Luton; can't understand why they organised the qualifiers on Saturdays when the majority of the regulars shy away, and the punters who go for a night out want a regular tourney (i.e. the £4k guarantee they were running)

I'd loved to have got through, as I qualified for the minimum for this tourney last year and I think the format and value are great.

More PLHE comps I say...!

15% of the field is what i thought too pete. regardless of re-buys.




Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: Dry em on November 01, 2007, 05:42:01 AM
Can't stand pot limit tournaments - the way they are played in the UK does not lead them to be a bigger test of skill, rather everyone feels obssessed to only ever bet or raise the full pot which just creates very big pots that you wouldn't get in a no limit tournament

Made me laugh the amount of people that said to me during this tournament "I don't like pot limit". I did explain to them that they were in fact allowed to raise 3xbb or bet 3/4 pot on the flop but none of them seemed able to grasp this....


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: snoopy1239 on November 01, 2007, 07:24:06 PM
The only thing I don't like about Pot Limit Hold'Em tournaments is the fact that it is harder to use your stack size as a weapon. This can work both in terms of being able to push people off big pots when you're stacked up and forcing them to fold when you're short.


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: AlexMartin on November 01, 2007, 08:55:37 PM
The only thing I don't like about Pot Limit Hold'Em tournaments is the fact that it is harder to use your stack size as a weapon. This can work both in terms of being able to push people off big pots when you're stacked up and forcing them to fold when you're short.

How often do you overbet the pot in NLHE tournaments?


Title: Re: Grosvenor Grand Prix
Post by: snoopy1239 on November 01, 2007, 09:41:22 PM
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The only thing I don't like about Pot Limit Hold'Em tournaments is the fact that it is harder to use your stack size as a weapon. This can work both in terms of being able to push people off big pots when you're stacked up and forcing them to fold when you're short.

How often do you overbet the pot in NLHE tournaments?

Well, if you think about being shortstacked, then pretty much every time you push is an overbet.