Title: Any escape? Post by: rudders on October 28, 2007, 09:45:03 PM was going well in todays million on stars when this happened..
feel i was cold decked and could not put the guy on his hand however 1) should I have raised from sb ( not keen on this as if called you have to play a raised pot out of position with moderate hand) 2)when he raised me the first time is there an argument for calling- i didnt want the board to pair- or so i thought! 3) is there any way i can or should get away from the hand when he rerereraises me- I was saying to myself-- there is no way he has ak haha. PokerStars Game The big one! Seat 1: manager1st (13720 in chips) Seat 2: POCKESI (10325 in chips) Seat 3: zerosado (5770 in chips) Seat 4: 1CLS500 (12550 in chips) Seat 5: MrTile (12850 in chips) Seat 6: AK87 (14110 in chips) Seat 7: der Falk (11925 in chips) Seat 8: 1eyeJ (9850 in chips) Seat 9: rudders (19125 in chips) rudders: posts small blind 100 manager1st: posts big blind 200 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to rudders [9h Ks] POCKESI: folds zerosado: folds 1CLS500: folds MrTile: folds AK87: folds der Falk: folds 1eyeJ: folds rudders: calls 100 manager1st: checks *** FLOP *** [Tc 3c Jh] rudders: checks manager1st: checks *** TURN *** [Tc 3c Jh] [Qd] rudders: bets 200 manager1st: raises 400 to 600 rudders: raises 1600 to 2200 manager1st: raises 11320 to 13520 and is all-in rudders: calls 11320 *** RIVER *** [Tc 3c Jh Qd] [Th] *** SHOW DOWN *** rudders: shows [9h Ks] (a straight, Nine to King) manager1st: shows [Kh Ad] (a straight, Ten to Ace) manager1st collected 27440 from pot Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: M3boy on October 28, 2007, 11:30:51 PM The way he has played it, I dont think it would of made any diff if you raised preflop - I think he flat calls.
Result is the same. Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: Ironside on October 29, 2007, 01:59:50 AM if there is an escape i couldnt have made it
Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: Longy on October 29, 2007, 12:39:03 PM if there is an escape i would lose alot of money folding the best hand long term FYP Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: temp0r on October 29, 2007, 05:38:09 PM if he played like this you surely had him marked as a MOUSE?!
personally i raise preflop and bet the flop. so probably would of had him lay it down there and then. this kinda situation is why i rarely flat call from the in tournaments. try and always raise or fold. Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: AlexMartin on October 29, 2007, 10:15:36 PM no way you are EVER getting away from this. Thats why the new lag is wap.
Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: boldie on November 02, 2007, 01:09:07 PM no way you are EVER getting away from this. Thats why the new lag is wap. lol.. yeah a bit cold decked here not much you can do. Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: LuckyLloyd on November 02, 2007, 04:57:07 PM I prefer to raise preflop. He has a random hand - so a raise takes the blinds most of the time; a raise plus continuation bet almost always unless he is a very tough, aggro defender that you are picking on. Limping in here with marginal hands and only raising decent hands when folded to you in the small blind is obviously something that could be exploited in the long run.
As played: LOL DONKAMENTS. Nothing you can do. Except run better. Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: TheChipPrince on November 02, 2007, 10:01:34 PM i dont mind the limp pre-flop, but when he re-re-raises 11300 more if HAVE to put him on AK, would he risk tourney with trips here on straighting board? I doubt it... I think you can get away from it...
Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: LuckyLloyd on November 03, 2007, 03:35:19 PM i dont mind the limp pre-flop, but when he re-re-raises 11300 more if HAVE to put him on AK, would he risk tourney with trips here on straighting board? I doubt it... I think you can get away from it... The board doesn't have four to a straight or three to a flush on it. He didn't raise preflop so I guess you can remove the possibillity of first or second set. But he absolutely will play 33, 1010, J10, Q10, QJ this way. And sometimes Kx suited. This is a cooler and folding would be akin to burning money IMO. Another thing to consider is the nature of this particular tournament. Given the amount of runners; the fast structure; and the top heavy nature of the prizepool - it really is not the game for big heroic laydowns. Additionally, the field is full of players who have no problem risking their "tournament life" in this spot with stuff that isn't AK. I really don't think that you could or should get away from it. Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: TheChipPrince on November 05, 2007, 03:44:56 PM Your posts offer some good explanations Lloyd, but on this one we'll agree to disagree! ;)
Title: Re: Any escape? Post by: MKKfish on November 07, 2007, 08:37:03 PM Rudders,
At 100/200 blinds I'm folding preflop for precisely this kind of situation arising - yeah sure you maybe ahead but for the sake of 300 chips you can only get either (a) the 300 or (b) get f*cked over. Cheers, MKKfish |