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Afternoon folks,

I was going to post this yesterday but I left the information in work and had to wait till I went in today to get it.

One of the guys I work with was talking a few weeks back about a betting system used for football, its based around a monster perm of matching accumulator for either 2,3,4, or 5 teams and then getting up a few correct scores.  Basically its based on opinions of football tipsters and then a math formula used to calculate form.  The information is gained from the "Glen Beavis Form in a Flash Guide" from the Sun Newspaper And the Racing and Football Outlook Paper.

Without going into the details of how it works, it is quite simple once you get your head around it but there is quite a lot of homework required and it involves working out some formulas before getting to the end product I will post my selections for today.  

Its recommended that you go for a 2 team accumulator to make more money over the longer period, I guess because its easier to get a double up than it is 5 games, as a degenerate gambles though I am going for a 5 team acca.  Again your supposed to perm it with every game on the coupon but due to the fact its FA cup day I have decided to miss out a few games where I definiteltly don’t see the prospect of a draw.

So my 5 team accumulator is Plymouth, Watford, Hamilton, Cowdenbeath and Raith Rovers note none of these teams are priced below 2/5 one of the rules that is set out in the system.

 I have also discarded all of Sunday games as I want to pick up any winnings tonight.

I have permed my 5 team acca with any correct score from 42 games that’s every game on the coupon minus the games at Billiericay v Swansea, Bury v Wokington, Carlisle v Grimbsby, Oxford v Northwich, Peterborough v Wrexham, Southend v Rochdale, Stockport v Staines and Gretna v Hibs.

The scores this system suggests you use are 1 - 1 and 2 - 1 win for the home team.  I don't have enough cash to have a bash at 2 results this week as I have permed all mines for a £5 42 bets at a £5 is £210 I could have went £2.50 instead and done both results.

Like any system this is definitely not full proof, I would hope if I get off to a winning start I'd decrease the teams in the acca and increase the stakes.  As I say its not full proof but the information pack I have shows that there where only a total of 14 loosing weeks over a 3 year period but on average the return was more than 3/1 on the total outlay for every week over the same period.

If any blondes want any further info or if you have tried this system or heard about it before feel free to post on here and we can get as much feedback as possible.

Perhaps it may be an option to start a syndicate if anyone is interested in having a bash at beating the bookies, would also limit the losses, if you have a good week one and take out initial stake then your effectively free rolling.

Watford drew and Raith got beaten at home - does this mean you win anything?

I'd be extremely wary of any system which includes a rule to perm something with every game on the coupon. What edge are you exploiting here?

-£210, "system working well, send more money " :)

I think my picking of 5 teams was just too greedy, the joys of a degenerate always chasing the big win maybe I should have stuck to picking 2 or 3 teams one of the bhoys who tried this just phoned me to say he has his 3 team acca up he went for Plymouth, Wolves and Dundee United.

His bet was £3 acca with anyone of 50 correct scores he done all games on the coupon for the day.

He  stuck to the 3 team acca and stuck to the system to the dot tanned his credit card for £300 and even put in the 2 - 1 results for the shortest priced teams - Normally this would be the home team but with it being FA cup day today many the shorter prices were away from home.

Anyway he's just been to the bookies and he has been paid £2,232.44

Happy days indeed now I hope he's getting the beers in the night since I am pratted.

There where 9 1 - 1 draws on the coupon
And 9 2 - 1 scores for the shorter priced teams in the matches.

I think the key to this is controlling the pick on the accas he said i was being too ambitious going for the 5 teams.  Overall its + evs on the day - just not for me :(

looks like a bad system to me and your friend as he did not stick to it and went for the away teams and not as the system had said but good gl

I have to agree..

The system, states that you should back the away team when they are the shorter price.

43 games on Saturday at 3pm.

Man City and Notts F. 1.61 and 1.57.

41 other games at 1-1. 41 bets in total. (price the 1-1 around 5.5 - 1)


41 * 1.61 * 1.57 = 103.64

1.61 * 1.57  * 6.5  = 16.43

103.64 / 16.43 = 6.31

You would need to have more than 6.3 1-1 draws on average to make this better than just an outright double for the same total stake.

Sandy

A friend who is a prof backer/layer, has a 4 all draws bet each week in a 4 trebs & acca for £200 a line - one coup per season shows a profit. Suggest blondes do a hypothetical pick and see how they get on.

Did you win much?

Not bright enough to do just a good double. Good illustration of the value of the type of system though. ( i did not go near the system btw)

Sandy

Good day for me :)

Using the system ?

Care to share ? (i mean the details but the winnings would be better ;)  )

Sandy

Stuck by the system for picking teams permed 4 with correct scores in 50 matches, I chnaged a few results in games I just never seen being 2 - 1 and I also used the system to find my home bets on the coupon which I stuck into an acca, for a total outlay of £70 on Saturday I was up £1400 and this includes me taking into account a £280 loss I had on a few dogs and the roulette machine.

Can you explain a bit more MKK, bit confused?

Nice result.

How many correct scores did you get ? Must have been a few.

 Still think you'd be better long term just betting the total stake on the teams rather than adding in the correct scores.

Sandy

I got 7 correct scores up.  Some games went against me in the last few minutes.

i really like back football winners innit good for pocket economy

rotflmfao...I miss Bandit's posts on the Betting forum.

I know this is an old forum but i wasnt a member at the time and have just read it since bolt pp posted.

I heard this sytem years ago and done it a few times, it does seem good. But if you put your total stake on just the 2,3, 4 or 5 team accumulator you get roughly the same amount. U only make more if there is more than 15 1-1 draws or something, cant remember exactly but i worked it out at the time.

Accumalators are fun.

Accumalators can win you a lot of money if you bink.

Accumalators are very rarely +ev and if you can't see why, don't expect to make any money from gambling.

This is spot on.

I was going to post this nearer the start of the season, but as this thread is up i suppose now is as good a time as any.

I had a theory a while ago about a football system (wasnt the first one i'd had), but due to losing money on the others decided to try this out hypothetically, recording every match for the last 2 seasons without actually betting on it.

Without wanting to give anything away at this stage, the system has shown a profit of £700 in season 07/08 and £920 in season 08/09.

I am now going to actually put this system to the test with my money this season (it is bound to go tits up now  ;D) and see what happens.

I am a firm believer that the bookies can be beaten - it is just working out how to do it and hopefully this will work.

Why not tell us then?

 ;popcorn;

Tell me more

Because i've spent 2 years working on it for me to profit from  ;)

If it continues to be a success then i will share with certain people..............for the right fee  ;bumwiggle;

ive got a system on the first and second legs of the first playoff matches in the three divisions.

strange though like matt havent collected yet, something i notice 2 years ago mentioned it to someone then forgot about it, then this year he phones me up and reminds me of it and it smashed it sigh, i'll be on next season.

having a system for picking football selections is one thing , having a system for placing mulitple bets is another, the bookies edge is the profit margin from underpricing every match, the more selections you add the more  this edge  is mulitiplied, bad price x bad price.
i agree nothing wrong with a footie accumulator for a bit of fun, but there is no mathmatical magic formula to beat the bookies except getting better odds than the bet should be, value.

This is exactly why accumalators are a mugs game and how the vast majority British bookies make a shed load of profit year on year. Those £10 and £20 bets every Saturday on the coupons add up.

British bookies actually tend to be pretty bad odd setters and get lazy because they have a license to print money on the footie coupons.

How about a Man U/Chelsea double each week.  Leave out the times one is playing Liverpool or Arsenal (and obvioulsly each other). 

Nice profit over the season do you think?

I completely agree that you can't beat the bookies when i comes to sports betting. The reason all bookies make so much money is the edge that the give themselves when setting odds.

I put coupons on every week tho. Usually £5-£20, this isnt a money making scheme, its for interest and enjoyment. last season i won £780 from a £10 accum and had the odd £80ish wins after that, probably +ve. but thats just luck with a wee bit of knowledge.

There is nothing wrong with footy accum, just a dangerous game for degenerates. Stick to poker, you'll make more

Nah cos a Man utd chelsea double will be well below evens a majority of the and at that the dont both always win. Any profit would be small

This is one of the least likely bets to show a profit imo, what teams do you think every mug punter 1st puts down on their 7 or 8 homes every Saturday. The bookies will make sure that they don't have these two at a generous price.

To make a profit at sports betting you have to shop around for the best prices and really know what you are betting on and realise what is a good price and what isn't. I have lost my fair share trying to bet straight up on football and other sports, so I just stick to arbing now as I know how to make a profit doing that.

Just look for trends in a season. Generally you can catch strikers hot and 1st goalscorer bets are often nice value. I made alot from Beckford scoring first last season. I avoid multi bets as there will be always one that lets you down *aka Man Utd vs York city in the cup 1/20 cost me a 15 fold.

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