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Ralph gave me this idea, so what the hell.

The event is a deepstack, long level tourney of €500 euro.

1st prize is estimated at €40,000 +

I am willing to sell a total of 20% of myself at a cost of €10 per 1%.

Any takers?

I will sell 100% of myself for €1000


 ;shame;    ;marks;

Tom, I know what you are saying, but this figure was suggested on another post (taking into consideration expenses).

Maybe it is too high, but no harm in suggesting it.

would I not be better off placing a 200 euro bet on you to win @ 150/1?

you might but hes looking for some support:) cmon the blondes, who wants the action? i'll start with 4% (thats 40 euro's right? lol)  I feel good about M3 winning this!!

I might offer 1% chunks at 6 Euros a pop, and I won't limp with J10 with 9x the bb......


Seriously though, good luck Paul. You are a brave fella!

if hes getting 1% for 6 euros, i want it too:) lol

I was, jokingly, offering the shares in myself!!

back to Paul's staking....

 WOOSH .......okay ill give you 5 euros for 1% of you if you promise to play j 10 suited:)

Does anyone else playing in Waterford consider themselves to have an expected ROI of 100%?

given the nature of poker players, I'd say 90% of the field assumes they have at least a 100% ROI

I've always thought I'd like to conduct an experiment where every entrant into a poker tournament is asked if they consider themselves to be better or worse than the average player in the field and if they could quantify that into a figure. They're not all going to cancel out are they?

Given my ticket only cost me €80, I'm still not sure I have an expected 100% ROI in this.

I will give you $160 for your ticket ... instant 100% ROI.

I'm realistic and extremely happy it only cost me the tenner, but work away lads.   rotflmfao

they wont come close to cancelling out, in theory the sum of the EV should equal the prize pool, but id bet that most tournaments, the poll of the players assumed EV would be at least double the prize pool, if not more.

1) Sell stake to Kev
2) Buy stake in M3boy
3) Chip dump to M3boy
4) Profit

he said whole ticket not a stake

i tell you what m3 send me €200 and il have a 20% stake in you  ;)

I do not quite understand what you are saying here.

If someone buys into a tournament and does not think they have an expected ROI of at least 100%, then why enter?

If you think your ROI is less than this, what you are saying is that you have no confidence in your own ability to make the money. Surely this is a defeatest attitude?

As conceited as it may be, EVERY tournament I buy into I am confident in my own ability to win it - or else I wouldnt buy in!

I am also sure that most people buying in have the same attitude - are you saying this is wrong?

Why? I don't understand why a presumably successful accountant and winning sponsored/affiliated/whatever poker player needs £140 so much? I'm not trying to be rude and I don't think I am, I think it's a fair question as you have started this thread but obv you don't have to answer if you don't want to. I mean if you have just had your boiler blow up and your car pack up and a shit load of expenses and you can't get a refund on the travel and hotel expenses if you withdrew from the comp then fair enough I guess.

No you are not being rude.

I do not need the £140. That was not the point of the thread. I started this due to Ralphs comments on the "staking players" thread. I just thought it would be an interesting topic. Weather there are any takers or not does not affect me in any way shape or form.

Confident in my own ability to win - does not mean I will win. There is alot of luck in poker you know.

Money is not the be all and end all. If it was, I am sure Pab would not have put money into a prize pool not so long ago or by agreeing to play very low stakes cash games on blonde and thereby passing up the oppotunity to make money himself.

Blonde is a community, and I think madasahatstand has got the point - it is meant as a bit of fun/ineterst for people not playing the event, and yes a chance to make some money this is true.

I am not the best when it comes to explaining myself, but hopefully you will see what I am trying to say.

The community bit is fine, but if it is a bit of fun, why put some juice on top?
If you were offering a %age at the buy in rate then I would've been interested.

I know its only a few £ difference, but it's not the money, it's the principle.

Yeah, I wasn't clear - that's what happens when you post at 1am when you come in from the pub. :)

I should have said an expected ROI of 200% - ie your total winnings will be double your total buy-ins (as you're saying that every €10 of entry fee someone buys is actually worth €20).

Of course poker players tend to think that they have more of an edge over the field than they may actually do, but backers should be able to take a more objective view and say 'Hang on, is this price really justifiable'.

Agreed, the deal doesnt have a community feel to it to me anyway.

Plus im not a gambler so wont just throw money at any offer.

I hope you do make your "shareholders" a good return and good luck out there, but i just dont think its viable. Im out.



 

when are you gonna sell 10% of your action for 20% of the value? I been waiting years to invest in a lucksack as prevalent as you!!!

lmao, maybe i'll sell when i start losing money.

It seems like M3's point has been missed here, if you read the staked players thread he explains that he was goig to try this for an experiment, based on travel, expenses & buy in. would anyone stake him?

so like, from 2003 onwards? boom boom

sigh!

but now u come to mention it.....

if someones roi is 100% is it worth playing the comp? (500 buyin + 500 expenses). on average your only going to comeback with a return of 1000 euros everytime. just going on the opr website most profitable players roi is between 0-100% therefore is travelling to play comps worthwhile?

Lol, its ok - I expected some to get the wrong idea or even to use it to "have a pop" - like water of a ducks back m8

And just to update - there is now only 6% available anyway ;)

Travelling to tournys is probably not worthwhile from a ROI aspect.
The thing with tournys is obviously the lure of a big win, also the added advantage of guaranteed live side games.
Not to mention the chance of a Weekend Jolly  :cheers: with other people whose main topic of conversation is Poker. (Does anyone else get the feeling they are boring people to death all the time talking about poker )

If this is all about the community aspect like you said M3, then you should be selling at face value to get a few blondes interested.

If this is from a "try and cut losses" view, then sell for as much as you want.

I agree. Even if Dewi is going your roi in a donkament doesnt warrant the price. I wouldnt pay Ivey that.

Oh yes!! I went on a date recently where we were at a loss as to what to talk about - he doesn't play poker - I haven't had a normal conversation in years. Unless its poker, poo, or if I'm talking to a woman I can slag off men, other than that   I'm really stuck.

I need to get a hobby that doesn't involve poker but as the financial future of the G casino in Luton is partly reliant on me I feel responsible for the dealers jobs and have to keep going there.  ::)

sigh - neverends ;angel;

Stakes available for stars 100k see internet thread

I have only given a share up once. It cost me £2400 and i did not mind paying it. Promised myself never again though because I proved to myself that there was no need. Happy to play just for me. Only ever leads to argument, often between so called mates. I don't think M3Boy was necessarily looking for an edge he was just curious to see what would happen. This is after all a forum.

Commenting on past experience, I have never ever asked a player to buy a % of him in a tournament, but I have bought many %'s when asked, and always as a favour to the player, its like a lending someone some money who you like but instead of him paying you back, you swop that for a chance of winning more.

99.999999999999999% of the time players sell pieces of themselves as they do not want/cannot stump up the full-buy in themselves and really want to play the event. In M3boy's case, the amount he is selling is relatively small, so in this case, it looks like a genuine experiment.

In terms of backing players, since they are asking me (and I would prefer not to do it), I expect no "+ VE juice", ie. for a £1k event, I buy 20% for £200. In terms of some of the comments in here, I would say that live tournament poker is a -VE business in the long term, same as the national lottery, I just don't buy the fact that the top pro players have such a huge edge over the field V a solid amatuer. However, i would say cash games are the opposite in the long term, and backing top cash players (who lose their winnings on casino/sportsbook) would be a much better way to make a profit.

Cheers Rob

Exactly my thinking.

Spot on Rob.

I never expected to sell any %age tbh, but as it turns out, it looks like I have sold the full 20%

Just to confirm - ALL 20% has now been taken.

So Ralph, the answer to your question on the staking thread is YES.

I've sold my 200% as well.  ;)

And had 10% savers with about 17 people in the tourney one assumes  ::)

 ::)

Red-Dog and M3boy earlier today.

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Red  looks upset  in that pic  ;D

Good luck Paul.

Just seen this thread. Hope you come back with a nice profit for you AND your stakers.

Cheers M8

And dont forget my %  ;D

Me too. Thought Paul was brave putting himself up like this, so good on him

You know me Richard - I was actually looking foward to seeing the "snipey/backstabbing" posts :) - what a sadist! lol

Good luck M3 :)up

I hope you crash and burn

Now there's brutal honesty

That comment suprises me from you Phil, it really does.

But thank you for being honest.

 rotflmfao

Er, I think there is a possibility that he may have been joking.....

Only to a degree Red. Outside of a poker table I would not wish ill on anyone. At the poker table I want everyone to crash and burn until I am out. When I played rugby on the pitch I was a nasty dirty bugger. Off the pitch never. The twin sides of Gemini. I

I am sorry Paul.......you say you are running an experiment. Well you proved it when you managed to fill the 20%. So now I think you could return the money safe in the knowledge that you could do this. You will of course have to gain agreement from all of your business partners to be able to do this. Then you could join me and others, quite a lot of others, to do some good by donating a small proportion of your winnings to a charity.

Or you can continue to walk down the dark side of the force in which case you know how I feel...........

Hmm, Red, I did not find it a joking post - and I have a very dry sense of humour. I am flying and someone who says "I hope you crash and burn" holds no humour for me.

Phil, I take your point about the "experiment" but I do not see the need to return the money. If however, they want it returned then of course I would gladly do that.

Also on the point of Charity - if I want to give to charity then I will. I will not feel the need to post about it though.

There are many many people that give to charity who remain annon. It really grates me the people who want to publicly announce they give to charity - why? Does it mean you have given more than if you stayed silent? No. The main reason people say they are giving to charity is to say "look at me" "look at what I am doing" - I am not saying this is your reason or the reason of anyone else who has also posted about giving to charity, but it is most peoples reason.

I suppose an argument could be that you raise awareness and convince others to also give to charity.

Best of luck Paul, Snat and everyone else playing *group hug*

I am flying on the same flight so I think it is safe to assume that I mean crash and burn purely in a poker sense. How easily ones words can be twisted.

Secondly I have no problem in shouting that I am giving a proportion of my winnings to charity. I do it specifically for it to come across as "look at what I am doing" and exactly for the reason you answered yourself though you are probably right in that these people would have given quietly anyway.

I have the right to portray myself in a way I am comfortable with. I have done so.

gl and ship the dosh for madasahatstand's % and everyone else.

vgl paul.

What odds Phil and Paul on the same starting table??

quite a bit higher than they were about 12 hours ago  ;whistle;

and I will be the same affable person I always am hopefully..............whilst obviously trying to make him crash and burn, a figure of speech I use when trying to describe the act of knocking somebody out of a tournament.

If I should be knocked out before him I will obviously be rooting for him and any other blonde still in. Nobody should be in any doubt about that.

I am in this thingy and have 100% of myself. My concience would not let me sell any part of that.

Why?

Cos I hit Waterford at around 13:00 on Friday and the turney starts at 19:30 and thats 6 and a half hours in a city full of Guinness oooops..........

Duke I wish you all the luck going and I hope we share at least one together over the weekend

VGL to all blondes taking part in this event.

Paul has decided to sell 20% of himself for whatever reason. The plain facts are that , There wont be many players in the comp which have a better shout than paul in a deep-stack comp. He has masses of experience and imo only needs a few breaks which havent been forthcoming recently, to notch up a big score.

I was thinking about buying up some %'sfor interest/as an investment but decided not too as i will cheer paul, and anyone else on the same with no financial interest.

Its pretty ballsy offering stakes and whilt doing so opens up avenue's for you to be mocked but i see nothing wrong with this type of business proposal. As they say 'ya pays ya money, ya takes ya chance'. 

Hope all blondes have a good trip and don't forget that poker isnt the be all and end all.  GL all.

FYP

What are the odds on Dewi and The Duke not being able to stand up when they have to take their seats (if you know what I mean)?

I did suggest we hit the pool for an hour to chill and keep out of trouble, but Duke was having none of it.   rotflmfao

It would get his beer wet.

I'll have you know that my body is a well tuned engine and on a good day does 4 hours to the Gallon

do you mean 8 pints to the hour?

lol, so com

M3boy @ 2.0

lol nice bumpage

I'm assuming Julian Thew didn't invest!

I see that I was held responsible yet again  ;shitfanhit;

This quote is just awesome ... Im afraid not many outside the mods room will understand its significance, although regular apat forum readers might get the gist ;)

Dunno what the significance is supposed to be, but I can tell ye I don't give one rattling arse.  Will do what I can, when I can and without approval from anyone.  TY and have a good day.

m3 nicked ur login?

God knows what you are going on about, but imagine this is a stick


RIGHT END __________________________________________ WRONG END

Guess which end you are holding.

Too many Blonde riddles these days....fecking reading between lines and holding sticks wtf???

Right end.  End of.  xx

Laxie, heres a little tip for you .... when celebrating Irelands grand slam win by getting smashed, dont put the computer on until you sober up.


You always regret it in the morning.


Night night x

There or there abouts.  We're not picky.   rotflmfao


No regrets.  Gooooooooooooooooooooo Ireland!!!!!  But thanks for the advice.  xx

Just had a "nice" email from Mr Garnham.

He is not happy that people are bumping old threads and talking about him and wants it to stop.


Message passed on.



I feel I should explain my post earlier on this thread, seeing as Laxie has got the wrong end of the stick.

This link will explain why i chose to highlight that quote ...

http://www.apat.com/forum/index.php?topic=2019.msg32796#msg32796


Mr Garnham made several requests to post that on blonde, even though he was banned and had abused all of blonde on his blog and to anyone that would listen. He used emotional blackmail and personal insults in his attempts to get us to change our minds.


Nice to know you still read the forum Paul... and I promise not to comment on any bumped threads or posts of yours in the future.

Good luck with the Trillion deal

Love

Kev

xxx

PS. you will remember the event in your original post ... It was the one where i let you share my hotel room for free for 2 nights.

DOH... I posted again !!

PPS  My reply was for Paul, knowing he still reads blonde and the thread had been bumped.  Not meant for you Kev.  Apologies if it came across that way.  xx

You are a bad man Kev   lol

You are right .... I made a mistake, I apologise.







It was actually 3 nights !!

I didn't know m3boy had been banned from blonde! What happened?

The only peeps I knew had been banned are Mark Strahan, AdamG and thekellster. Am I missing any other prominent members who have received the banstick?

Did thekellster get banned? How did I miss that?!

IFM also I think. I dont know why though.
 Shame I like Ian and havent seen him around for a while now. Hope you are good mate if u still read posts

I speak to Ian quite a bit on msn ... he is concentrating on his darts, and has had an offer of backing for a full seasons games.

He is doing well.

thx Kev. tell him I said hi

Is he being backed at 200%?!?!?!?!?!?

I might take up arrers, I have the right physique.

I thought about it, but all the walking put me off ... If they provided runners to get the darts back each time, i would have given it a shot :)

Ding with a not so subtle "I had a date" brag post.

My god, this a is a great thread. How did I miss is it before?

+1

I can't work out if Trigg was levelling or not with his post.

Whatever, this thread deserves to be in the best of blonde forum surely?

It reminds me of someone who was backed in an event at the WSOP a few years ago and had also sold about 150% of himself too.
Unfortunately for him he made the final

I think your hero and my guru, Mr Bolton once swapped 200% of himself in a tournament at the Vic.

He didn't make the mistake of making the final however.

Did the guy you are talking about hold a Britsih passport by any chance?

Yes.he holds a British passort
 Ive  just checked the person in questions  stats on HMF. Im quite supprised at how many WSOP finals hes made too

Just for the sake of clarity as the OP states that I gave him the idea for this.

What I said was that if you were travelling to Ireland and your exes. were probably going to double the tourney fee from €500 to €1000 who on earth would want to buy a stake in you @ 200%.

Don't try and wriggle out of it Ralph.

We all know it was your idea.

what would be a good ROI playing $200 internet MTTs these days?

what would be a good ROI playing live £1000 GUKPT events?

I heard Ralph patented the 200% staking venture  ;D

You mentioned your "guru" Tony Bolton earlier Keith.

I remember going to watch QPR v Gooners circa 1981 with my old mucker Tony and it was on your horrendous plastic pitch, the ball would bounce so high of the "turf" I swear it must have spent more time in the air than on the ground.

We lost 2-1.

so where did he and Phil finish in this comp and did they sit at the same table

and M3boy  :hello: :hello: thx for doing my accounts rotflmfao

;yippee; self assessment FTW

lol I bet he was happy eh Ralph

FML this thread and its follow ups was the inspiration behind my WSOPE joke post which ended up with me going to london and getting all in with QJT6 against robert williamsons KKKJ on a QT76 board with less than 1 hour till the end of play for the day, and i was so close to forgetting about it too thanks tank.

just love the way people enjoy raking the past up by bumping old threads to ridicule especially when the person in question is banned and  cannot defend or reply themselves.

how sad and big of you lol

Ah, Paul likes it really  :)

my bad.

Didn't think that far ahead tbh. Now that you mention it though, was a bit out of order

I honestly didn't know Paul was banned.

I wasn't taking the piss in any way.

The limited interaction I've had with Paul suggests he is a decent fella, even if asking to be staked at 200% was a bit cheeky.

If this forum has got so fragile that we can no longer take the piss out of each other and members that no longer post then that's a sad day. Bunping an old post is no different to looking at photos of when you were younger, its fun to laugh at the daft stuff we all do from yesteryear.


if anyone needs help getting off a horse let me know, i have ladders.

Not quite fair game though coz Paul is banned and can't stick up for himself.

Forgot that at time of bumpage (either that or I forgot it was a shitty thing to do, one of the two.) Beer imo

Ah well, all's well that ends well. Kev got some exercise.

keith i know you genuinely didnt know.

m3boy bashing is so old hat and like most bashing on here always done as far away as possible. upon face to face meetings people are all sweetness and light just makes me laugh that all  rotflmfao

Above poster is rubbish.

well said tank and takes a bigger man to admit they may have been wrong, fair play.

as m3 bashing is old hat just join billy in the new game of turny bashing! much more fun cos he aint banned ......yet!  ;) ;D rotflmfao

man im to slow you've already started  ;D

turney is an idiot

FWIW i am under the impression that M3boy only got a ban for a set period not a lifetime banstick, I could be wrong but thats how i recall it, so in my mind he is not posting her out of his choice.

i like this game

M3 banned for life.

Turney is ghey

think you will find it was life vinni...... maybe a mod will correct me if im wrong

??  who

and i have been banned b4.  arse is still red from the banstick

that the best you got? lol

by the way its turny not turney you idiot!

feck, thought you were banned already!!

TurnEy is ok really.

Well as someone who's had to be all sweetness and light when placed in a real predicament & being a person who likes Charmaine, I'm delighted to know how you judged my attempts to keep things OK at a bash.

If I knew I'd be made out to be snidey I'd have still acted the same - because I wouldn't have upset Charmaine. But at least I know how sad some poeple would judge me.

I want banned at some point. Happens to all the cool kids.

turny
bolt
rooks
Flushy
[  ] Billy

[  ] havent been banned

[X] pleased this makes me cool in tanks eyes

i think i have the record of having the most bans without actually getting life lol best i behave myself  ;D

of course you would rod, i wouldn't expect anything different from a gentleman like yourself.

we all love charmaine shes lovely, isnt she life banned as well?

Charmaine is banned thanks to Paul. LOL.

You're still on the fookin list!

(http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii177/tigmong/thelist-1.jpg)

Just shared a table with Paul for a couple of hours at Luton.

Sure the tankman's bumpage wouldn't be malicious - just too nice a guy.

Do think it's a bit rum for anyone to be having a pop at paul since he can't reply.

Pip Pip

think its been established tanks bump wasnt malicious but some of the cheap jibes aimed at paul from others might have been

In all seriousness - you have a fucking go at the mods every time you get a chance. YES Charmaine's banned & when I spoke to her she understood why.

If I felt so strong as you seem to I'd leave - M3's got a forum you could join. You are a good member of the board for a wee while, then, as usual, you start the shit stirring. Well I'll say it - if you don't like it you know where the door is.  I've argued your case repeatedly on the mods board, but to be honest I've forgotten why now.

Fashgus?

lol billy lend him your ladders ffs!

rod im not stirring as always im just telling it how it is. i thought the bumpage and comments thereafter were out of order so i said so.
i only asked regards charmaine as you were saying how wonderful she was so i was just wondering if her ban was for life or not?

I blame Strachan for Rod's rant.  Obviously drove the man to drink today.

what a goal by naylor. Was trying to clear it obv.

Asking questions you know the answer to?

I thought more of you Turny, but hey fine, yes her ban's for life.

Any chance of you manning up and answering as to why you stir the shite and try to make the mods look bad?

Grow up Gary

FYP

When you know what you're talking about - you should post.

5495 Posts.  You think I got that many by knowing what I am talking about?

if you think that sometimes questioning what they say and not believing everything im told by a mod to be gospel then yes im a stirer.happy now?

Right - Fuck It. I'm going to be brutally honest.

I'm sick to the back teeth of the backbiters, the people who want to run the board, but don't actually want to do anything.

I've had enough of the people who take the coward's out of the debate and say "A Mod shouldn't say that".

I've fought long and hard for Turny & the Bandit not to be banned when they've been out of order, as I feel they add something to the board. But after tonight, why would I argue again?

I've had PM's accusing me of picking on Rangers fans... and then had a Celtic supporting mate tell me I've changed.

Well if I'm still a Mod after this, the guy that tries to stand up for the opinionated and forthright is no more, because there's not one that doesn't dish shit at those who stand by them,

lol No,

Everyone knows you are a shite spouter bandit  rotflmfao


I would say, locking this thread would be a fantastic idea at this stage, emotions seem to be running high and this is going down a bad path.

rod look back at this thread since its been bumped, where have i had a pop at you?

my arguement was that m3boy was getting a rough deal considering he wasnt in a position to defend himself. then for reasons unbeknown to me you then come on ranting and raving.

do yourself a favour rod log off for the night and chill out man

for once i agree with billy here, i have no axe to grind with rod but for some reason he has with me.

im not posting on this thread again tonight thats for sure

Paul, you may want to log off yourself for a while. It's an MO of yours to ask awkward questions and generally be difficult then act the innocent. I don't know if you realise you are doing this, or even why.

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Agreeing about what locking the thread or bandid being a font or bullshit?

and what do you mean for once?

i recall you called a lot of people rubbish one night and we were in complete agreement in most cases!

No, how about you do us all a favour and realise how much the slagging we get for trying our best for the board hurts? Fuck it Turny, I've argued your case left right and centre but you always manage to fling it in my face. EVERY DECISION IS QUESTIONED and then, later brought up again. You made your snidey shots about M3, I made my point & you used it to have a go about Charmaine. I consider people on here my friends - but a friend wouldn't do that.

I'll have two please.

U sure?  They are suppositories.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6LX8ff0IvA

.

For all the good they're going to do, I may as well stick them up my arse.

Make that three

Quoting Renton from Trainspotting is not big or clever, Sent to Dundee, do not pass go do not collect £200

But why would I want to do a thing like that? I choose not to choose modding. I chose somethin' else. And the reasons, there are no reasons when you've got sit n gos.

Can't we all have a go at Mark Strahan instead?

Much easier target and it would bring back a sense of community to the forum :)

I was kinda disappointed when M3Boy got banned. He fought the establishment like, I dunno, a modern day Emmeline Pankhurst. He was a martyr to FACTS! everywhere imo.

Oh  no, we're all in trouble now Mantis has joined the thread ;)

Was the Celtic Tiger ever a member here? What has happened to him, he seems to have gone off the radar.
Keith do you still keep in touch on MSN?

I dunno all this talk about being snidy and serving bans whose right and who's wrong who said this and who said that

why cant you just be as pleasant and un opinionated like moi?? and never as much as been close to getting banned  ;D

oh and how many bans you had turneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey?  teee heee   rotflmfao rotflmfao



xx

Good brag at the tables last night about how you nailed that Lucy Rokash spot buddy ;). wp

Wise Guy

You going there tonight?

Nah, tomorrow next visit ya feckin Wise Guy.

ok have reread this thread since the bumpage and in the cold light of day and after sleeping soundly.

there are one or two things still bothering me.

why the fuck did rod paradise feel the need to personally lay into me on this thread? i have reread and up until rods first rant/attack on me i had not mentioned him or pointed at him regards anything!

if that was any other member of the forum of they would have been banned that im sure of, so why when its a mod who makes an unprovoked flaming or insulting post on here is it allowed to stand and we just have to accept it or in rods words leave?

then after the dust settles and most involved agree to cool off overnight does then another mod in roberthm then feel the need to post for the first time on the thread like hes some kind of red adair arriving late as his fire engine broke down that i have history and generally goading me to continue on the thread.

sorry to those bored with it for reraking but i agreed to not post anymore last night but that doesnt mean im happy with taking unneccessary shit from others.

I took the comment "m3boy bashing is so old hat and like most bashing on here always done as far away as possible. upon face to face meetings people are all sweetness and light just makes me laugh that all" badly. We all had an awkward situation to deal with at the last bash, and insinuations that we were 2-faced or cowardly are as far as I'm concerned unneccessary, incorrect & out of order.Oh come on, stop acting the martyr, people aren't banned over a flare up.

And as I've said earlier, the argument of 'a Mod shouldn't say that' is a crap one. We're members of the forum as well & have the same rights and responsabilities. Not really accurate though is it? He posted during the argument.

I also note that YOU are allowed to read that you are being goaded into a post but I should have been banned for the same according to you.   
No neither am I, which is why the constant questioning of the mods & 'innocent questions' aimed at raking things up gets right on my wick.

go on then rod you have said this numerous times in the last few pagesof this thread. tell me where im guilty of this then in the last few months?

if that was any other member of the forum of they would have been banned that im sure of, so why when its a mod who makes an unprovoked flaming or insulting post on here is it allowed to stand and we just have to accept it or in rods words leave?[/quote]
Oh come on, stop acting the martyr, people aren't banned over a flare up.


believe me i been banned for less lol

I disagree, mods are supposed to calm situations down and try to prevent arguments, this is not the same as regular users of the forum who have the right to just not get involved.

Tikay disagrees.

So if a mod feels strongly about something they're supposed to not say anything?

Flushy for Mod

So it's mods have no extra responsibility's to the regular members?

Extra responsabilities, yes. Gagged and not allowed to take part as a normal member, no.

Yes, they have extra responsibilities. They also have opinions.  (Just like shareholders really)

BoB plz.

5% pls

Too late flushy got here first.

Gagged to the extent that you can't talk about the details of your private discussions in the mod room and who took what position on these issues.

I always thought the unwritten rule was that this included publically asserting your own personal postion in those discussions, unless you're man of the people Tikay, who would frequently post, "well I think A guys and gals, but we'll go with the mods desicion of B"  :D

Basically, taking the huff and telling Bandit/Turny that you're no longer their man in the mod house, we can't really count that as taking part in discussions as a normal member.

Taking the huff is totally cool in and off itself though.  ;popcorn;

Well I wouldn't put it as taking the huff. Running out of patience possibly.

Fair point I probably shouldn't have mentioned it, but you know yourself how galling it is when people jump to wrong conclusions on how decisions are met & who is their latest 'little Hitler' etc.

I'll admit, the modding job certainly did get annoying/infuriating at times.

If only you guys had some sort of place you could vent your frustrations among each other without the rest of the board seeing. ;)

yes but who accused you of being? why the outburst?

I'm liking this thread at the moment - a sneaky peek into the mod's room for us mere mortals.

It's like we've snuck out of bed and are sitting on the stairs listening to mum and dad having a row.

lol

and Dad comes out, sends you back to bed, returns to the lounge mumbling something about trolls.

itb, I think Rod got cross coz he read into your post an accusation of two-facedness. Whether you intended it that way or not.

Rod probably took exception to this, coz he is not a disingenous man by nature, but his role as a moderator requires him to sometimes behave in a way that could be interpretated thusly, and this is perhaps a source of frustration, a sore point. (reductive I know)

I don't think you're right in saying a normal member would get banned for saying the things he did. (I'm discovering at the moment that getting banned is actually pretty tough, I'm having to work pretty hard at it)

I'll have nightmares and wet the bed if you're not careful.

as long as I don't start to hear the sex noises I think I'll be ok.

yes but obv my post regards accusations of two facedness wouldnt be aimed at him because he hadnt even comment prior to my post so other than a guilty conscious i have no idea why he would think i was pointing the finger at him.

maybe its a little harder to get banned nowdays tank, maybe the mods are being a little more lenient now and letting discussions between people go ahead that can only be a good thing on an open forum

Not sure if you were referring to my post, but I can assure you...I am not at all shy about saying what I feel - face to face.  Doesn't mean an all out war has to happen in the process.  It is possible to speak your mind and be polite at the same time.  Paul and I have it down to a fine art when we do cross paths. 

Most people on blonde know the history and in my mind, it was opening old wounds on both sides when the post was bumped.  I was definitely annoyed and probably should have just left it, so apologies for that.  As for being two-faced?  Not so much. 

lolz @ M3 still causing trouble...

I've just reread this for the 2nd time and am still confused by the
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Who is right ITB or Rod only one way to find out

In the blue corner we have ITB

and In the Rod corner we have a mod

Game over GG ITB

lol thats all.  Not even worth getting into it now if it.

ITB & Flushy for Mods.