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i have a suggestion, knock it if you want but its just an idea. the proposal is to get players with small bankrolls into bigger events. the idea for example would be to get 6 players to each pay £175 (175x6= £1050) to fund a gukpt seat. the 6 players would play a 6 person sng to determine who plays the main event. the winner of the 6 person sng would have a 50% share for the tournament, while the losing 5 other players would each have a 10% stake in any winnings. this would be similar to the blonde league which is already in place but without the free money. so even if you are unsuccessful in the sat you will still have an interest.  :dontask: what do you think?

Liking it

Hopefully we could host the SNG?

yeah that would be great

and SNG sats as well?

and Feeders to the Sats?

 Yep like it too!...count me in.

 

I think there should be freeroll qualifiers into the feeders for the sats, to give Booder a chance to play.

We could do a private table on Blonde. We would not be responsible for any payments from the live events. We would all have to hope that everyone would honour the deal.  I assume what we would do is to arrange who would play in each one and then tie up the table. More ideas please and we will sort it out. I would love to book a table like this for friends.

Nice 1 - I would be up for this.

I'll def play

like it

I like it too, but I think I'd need satellites

if you pm me your interest that would be great. ideally i'd like to field 6 top players for the cristmas cracker at luton? (£750+juice) on 8th Dec, open to venue suggestions, to be agreed before hand.
 

you want a 6 handed stt at $350 + $35 ... get me 6 definite runners and i will put it on.

you give me a date and a time (need as much notice as possible)

If you want me to run an mtt sat @ $38.50 with 1 seat for every 10 runners, I can do that too.


like i have said before, get me the runners and i can put on whatever you want.

Give me a sat to that, and I'm game.  Great idea :)up

Actually, reg fee would not be $35 .. it would be less... i will check that out.

Seems we have names for the first 6 seater SNG for Luton....with date and time to be confirmed. :)up

As suggested with future 6 seater SNGs,  maybe we can allocate 1 possible 2 seats to qualifers from a mtt sat.....got a feeling it would be a popular monthly qualifer!

just read this..sounds like a great idea..

And a rakerace to the feeder to the sats with the 2nd place getting into a consolation caption competition supersat.

Only joking, this is a brilliant idea, I'd do it.

Bypass the reg fee by transferring the cash to one persons account on stars say and play a 10c stt.

wow...clever.

but not exactly helpful to blonde who would like to host the events huh?

Could we not do a 10 cent tournie on blonde to achieve the same thing? Agree to wear a blonde t-shirt at the event etc?

Also, this is maybe a bit too far ahead thinking, but 2nd place gets a slightly better % stake perhaps? Nah, forget I said it.

I'll play as the value.

I'd be needing my 10% back if Chris won the sat.

corporate whore

! er, cheers Ian, nice to know my efforts are appreciated.

blimey have all the mods lost their sense of humour?

Part of the terms of engagment

(http://jakem0545.blogs.com/photos/random_picture_collection/a341pt2-thumb.GIF)

well interested, pm me if u wanna give more details

I like it too, maybe a ten seater sng?
I think most of us would like it to be played on Blonde, maybe kev can Slightly reduce the reg fee for the winner wearing Blonde merchandise?

Just a thought.

Reg fees are set by the network, but I will happily get a blondepoker T-Shirt to the winner.

If you ever manage to write something humorous you might find out. Doubt it will ever happen though.....

 ;tightend; ;tightend; ;tightend;

Thanks for being as predictable as always chaps.....................

EDIT i think i shall rise above you pair.

I got a set and reraise.

fold, not worth it

am i the only 1 who takes ifm's comments with a pince of salt? Surely you guys need a happy pill or something.

ok ive got 6 runners for the first one sorted, and have had lots of pm's so im sure there will be another one set up soon.  :)up

 Just to keep everyone in the loop, I have requested a 6 man table which is password protected... scheduled for Sunday 2nd Dec at 8pm

it is a $270 entry fee with a winner take all prize of $1620

starting stack of 2.5k and 15 min levels

Mariners has 6 runners for this first comp which i believe is buying the winner into the Luton Xmas cracker.

Im sure the 6 will be revealed, and good luck to all of them ... obv a blonde shirt will go to the winner.


Going forward we could make these 10 handed with 1 or 2 seat made available via sats...

Fair play to UpTheMariners for the suggestion.

Cheers Kevin

Great idea

Excellent suggestion these, while the Luton event is not for me, maybe some future 1's will be...

Monte Carlo 2008 baby!!!!!

$50,000 HORSE event at the WSOP

$500,000 buy in HSP Series 6

$1,000,000 worlds biggest poker tourny on a cruise ship


lets see if we get 8000 members get them all to buy into a sat then it would only cost $125 each

now who has the email addresses of any spammer we might still have on the books

I vote we just send KP to that..poor sods won't know what hit them ;)

That game from the James Bond film.

ive had 4 requests for a second team if i get two more interested il speak to kev about setting up another sat for the 2nd team.

I can't do Luton but I love this idea - probably be the only chance I'd have of playing in a big live tournament.

Definitely be interested in any for events in the new year (buy-in/bankroll allowing).

First comp is now up on the blonde poker room lobby for 2nd Dec at 8pm

It is password protected. I will PM UpTheMariners with the password, and he can in turn pass it on to the players taking part.

I will be at DTD that weekend, but hopefully we will get a fair few railbirds and maybe someone can do some updates on the forum :)

Hi All,

Blonde have decided to do this for as many events as possible. Hopefully we will set up a link so requests can be made for these. I am up for some of the bigger ones.

just read this too


damn great idea


i'd be up for future events in the new year

I've just read this as well.  What a great idea.

I'm definately interested in taking part in satellites for this.

 You might have saw in the press a few weeks ago, the case in court of the 3 bingo players who had/or had not, agreed to split the winnings when either of them won. The bottom line, after a couple of court appearances, was that a verbal agreement was dodgy ground for a binding contract, and the "winner"was allowed to keep all the money.

 Not casting aspersions on any Blonde of course :D, but if we're going to run a few of these, it might be sensible that the winner of any satellite to PM the other 5 that he/she is happy to give the others 10% each of any winnings.

....of course I bow to any other suggestions from Robert ;tightend;......and of course there is F all you can do if Kev jumps on a plane with 100K and is sunning himself on a barbados beach within a few hours...... ;D

FK .... RUMBLED ... SIGH !!!

if you have 10% of someone who wins a GUKPT do you then have 10% of them in the Grand Final as well?

I would say yes, but i only have %ages with friends, in which case it would be automatic imo.

IMO no.

So would the 10% man not be entitled to a share of the  £10K added to the first prize in the GUKPT event either ?

IMO Yes definitely.

the Grand final ticket is part of the first prize, so if you have 10% of the winner, it stands firm that you should have 10% of the Grand final ticket as well. (IMO)

I insist on having 10% of the watch :)

my opinion is that yes you should get your percentage of the 10K and anything won in the grand final.

Yep, 10% means 10% on everything other than the Blonde shirt for me. Lets face it, if that situation did arise, what a great problem to have?

But they could keep the trophy of course

Just seen this post and it's a brilliant idea, I'd be very interested in playing these - getting a chance for a seat or a % of a player is great value. Could even run 9 seat stts with a different percentage split for everyone.

If you get any going for gukpt Brighton count me in.

If JR was presenting it 10% would probably have been available  ::)

the event in question isn't actually a gukpt event therefore theres no seat to the winner.

Thanks guys  :)up

what an amazing idea - probably the best idea ever on Blonde.  Really in keeping with the community spirit

cant make the 8th Dec as hopefully in Vegas but will def be up for others...

If anybody can guess the password can they enter?  The passwords are always really easy...my guess is Blondeshare.

A terrific idea, thank you Mr Mariner Sir.

Sadly, I can't make it on the 2nd December, as I'm working, but I'm happy to support the ongoing initiative any way I can.

Phew!

3hr 20min to go and waiting on M3boy and AlexMartin to reg i believe? Are you guys still playing?

In so far - Byron, Ripple, UTMariners, and Myself.

Yes, ill be there dont panic

I have tried to get hold of Alex but he is not answering his phone.

He was the one i was worried about! lol

alex told me earlier this week that he couldn't play were currently waiting on celtic to register who has taken his place. if he doesn't register soon though im gonna have to give it away.

 The tourney info says min 6/max6....so presume it will cancel without all 6 registering?

 

"give" it away?!? I hope not.

Just over a hour to find one more person. I am sure we could do it.

Anyone who wants to be next on the list and can play at 8pm tonight please post here....?

If by 7.30pm and Celtic has not reg'd then we shall then send the password to you... $270+27..

give it to another person! i dont mean for free  ;D

Damn you almost had me, right up till the $270 bit :D

GL guys, whoever wins this will be a good rep of blonde and UTM in the event :)

Which event is this SNG a qualifier for?

just a reminder its for £750+40 xmas cracker next saturday 8th in luton (no expenses), 2 day event

Ah, I'm APATing this weekend.

Sig, not gonna happen then ? Anyone get hold of Alex ?

welcome to my world ... so many people say they are interested, yet when it comes to crunch time, they are harder to find than than Des Duffy at a bar !!!


still time, i hope someone comes forward to take the spare seat.

Yes, he si not playing. He is in the ecoop on "another" ipoker site but did tell me he told Daniel a while ago he couldnt play.

SOMEONE must want it ?!?

What about you Kev?

Yep, damn annoying, especially considering Alex Martin posted in the GUKPT thread at about 5.30 this evening...

fair play to alex he told me few days ago. theres two other people who said they woulld play and havn't which is a bit annoying...

Sighage, cmon thread readers, you know you want to!

i will make the numbers up if needed, i will wait til the last minute

i.dplay but its APAT next weekend

We'll get Kev to play if need be, don't worry the rest of you

celtic is here!!!

Is he deffo playing ??

let me know asap

yes hes just pm'd me saying so

He's just registered - panic over.

i dont see what the problem is, ive had no trouble getting 6 players  ;whistle;

ok coolio.

good luck gang, i will do updates on here.

where is it cant seem to find it..

great stuff...thanks for the offer Kev.......can I suggest a 24 hour cut off next time !!

under scheduled tournaments> blonde six pack special

main tourny lobby, starts at 8pm ... "blonde six pack special"  are you single Jizz ... how do you find the partners love button ? LMAO


try unticking "HIDE FULL TABLES"


;)

sorry to hear about your crash Kev.glad you are ok

cheers colonel, will post the "trip report later" sigh ... im ok though so no real damage done.

sorry bout the late reg guys, didnt realise it would cause a problem.

Vince

anyone wanna buy any kittens, Mariners has had shit loads LOLOLOL

Go away!!! lol

Kev, can we restart this? please?

It seems the chips have been unevenly distributed :(

life could always be worse..........imagine being a spurs fan

NO !!

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=29338.0

;)

Perhaps it is worth confirming a reserve for these satellites to ensure it takes place.

another chance to play in one of these on Friday at 8pm

Pm me for password.

TONIGHT @ 8pm... 3 spaces left any takers ??

still only 3 in, i will play if we get 5 ... now that MUST be added vallooooooooooooooo

would anyone be interested in doing this for the upcoming irish open?

Bit pricey for me to do a 6 seater for the main event.....but would consider a 6 seater sat into a 6 seater sat!...or something along those lines!

if you guys want it, I will put it on...

I can do 2 sats of 6 seaters to a final 6 seater if thats what you want. 1 through from each sat ... that would still need 4 paying full entry to the final.

If anyone has an idea of what buy ins etc that they want to play, please PM me with suggestions.

what about for the Gukpt manchester and a side event?

Its all about demand Rick ... we have struggled to fill a 6 seater, sats to a sat are a bit of a mare to schedule on a single table basis ... and are not well attended ... trust me, i have put plenty on and always struggled to fill a table.

Like I said, if you or anyone can come up with a price structure that makes it popular and affordable for enough people to make it run, let me know.


what you have to remember also is that the winner would only get the seat and would have to fund his own expenses.

The one good thing about a sat to a final sat ,is that if we dont manage to find 4 full payers, you at least make a good profit from the original sat.

The Irish open is 4,500 euros total... so 6 x 750.   A sat into that being 6 x 125.

I think finding players at 125 would be OK...4 players at 750 could be the sticking point.

Something I'm sure you could extend online.  We run a 6 seater live "syndicate" for the Irish Open.  We meet each month, table our monies which go into the kitty and play a SnG.  The results of the SnG are converted to points and the 11 games worth of points are used in a formula to determine our chipstacks for the grand final (formula used doesn't ridiculously punish the short stack).  The grand final is played on a slower clock/blind structure of an evening (8 hours this year for the winner to win a 6 seater SnG :)). 

The winner of the grand final represents the "syndicate" in the Open (with hotel/travel expenses too) and also keeps 25% of any winnings.  The other 5 members get 15% each of any winnings.

I'm sure you could extend this online via Kev for groups of players that are not geographically suited to play in a home game each month but are willing to build a roll each month for a representative to play in the bigger buy-in games.  The more members in the syndicate then you can either reduce the games buy-in or increase the "pay-out" (i.e. two people represent in the same comp or 1st plays in Open, 2nd place plays in £1k event elsewhere etc etc etc), but be aware you want to have a reasoanble/worthwhile % holding of anyone managing to cash in a decent event .  It could likely be as versatile as you all agree and once the initial pain of the setup/agreement is made it wil be a recurring theme easy to organise for Kev.  Could also tie-in the syndicates to blonde with goodies for the winner to wear/sport etc to advertise "blonde syndicates" or the like wherever the chosen event is the players are playing in.

If it took off and you had several syndicates rather than 1 big 1, then I'm sure you could even extend the idea(s) ad infinitem (syndicate v syndicate last longers etc etc etc :)

Just some random thoughts

stoneii

Im up for a GUKPT one

I would be also, but dependent on the figures...anyone got enough time to work out an example using stoneii's post and a GUKPT seat (which are $2,750 on BSQ).

How would the 'more points = more starting chips' work on Blonde?

Quite simply ... It wouldn't.

i think the current setup is fine we just need some players. im up for gukpt aswell.

I'd be up for a sat to the Manchester GUKPT, or even a sat to a sat

so for gukpt manchester


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utm
actionman
m3boy
deputydawg
ripple?

Just had a thought, is Manchester this coming weekend?

If so, sorry guys its a no no. I'm on baby sitting duties :(

But count me in for the next one :)

its london this week, manc is end of april.

OK count me in. Not 100% I can play Manchester, but will worry about that after the sat ! :D

Ok, in it's most basic form "quite simply" it wouldn't but perhaps with a bit of ingenuity it could?. 

Some sort of points system that allows players free "add-ons" in the grand final - winner = x addon's, 2nd place x-1 - something like that.  I haven't really thought it through, not knowing the complexity's of online tournament setups etc, but didn't think it would be that instant a  non-runner.

was just throwing in ideas. If it's not a popular idea, or I've grossly underestimated effort then fair enough, my apologies Kev.

GL all

stoneii

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Luton Satellites proved a winner last time with AndrewT giving us a nice return :)up......I would be interested in ones for the Friday and Saturday two day eventers.

Can Blonde as a poker room put on satellites to any event they feel like? Dunno what the legalities are...

When I say satellite, I mean a tournament to a live event open to any person who is a registered member of the blonde cardroom, non-password protected etc.

not formally no. Organisers give permission and they understandably want satellites on their own rooms in the main

We have had arrangements to run sats for events, but only with organisers permission. We've been in touch with all the people you'd expect for others too

Instead we run sats such as this where all participants understand that they will receive cash (no package) to buy into an event but its not a formal satellite where the seat is reserved for you

Im up for satelites into the £500 and £1000 spring fest events

Can we get some sorted?

Can these sats be opened up to the whole network, or just for people on the forum?

It is impossible to set up a comp with each player having different chip stacks , or one being able to add on more than another ... while its a good idea in principle,it is not possible mate.

Always open to suggestions though, keep them coming.

LOL I dont think you get it oh purple headed one ...

Why would we want to open our comps for a seat to other rooms ??  the idea of them is that everyone who plays gets a share in the winner ... Plus why should we run them so people can play them on another site ... its the same as you asking Jon Raab why dont you let blonde have access to all the GUKPT sats and feeders... after all they are on the same network... think about what you are asking ;)

well for two reasons that might not suit us

a) for community reasons we would like it to be blonde such that the winner is transferring sums (when he cashes) to people he and we know. There's scope for deals to be reneged on if we involve unknown people and money is subsequently not transferred

b) from a business perspective we want people to play and rake on our card-room and not be tempted to play them on other ipoker rooms

Kev, this is what I would set up :

Super Satelite to the £250 plo , £500 dc and the £1000 nl

These would be $50 , $100 , and $200 freezeout sats with decent structure (probably 3000 starting chips and 15 minute levels (may even be 20 minute) respectively.

Satelites to the super satelites of $5 rebuy, $5 or $10 rebuy and $10 or $20 rebuy respectively - running daily

I also think that with the time we have left that you could probably get 2 super satelites for each event. (every 2 weeks say)

NO travel expenses included, just buy in for tourney.

I would estiamte that each super satelite would generate between 2 and 5 seats each - so thats a potential of 30 extra buy ins for the G casino accross the 3 competitions.

I would love it if you could get these organised, but I feel that you would have problems if you need to seek the "ok" from the G to do it - although it makes no business sense whatsoever for the G to say No.

You could even incorporate the "share" idea into the super sats whereby the people who make the final table (and dont win a seat) get 5% of anyone who does win a seat - this may need tweeking a bit

Or just leave it as a normal super sat

Thoughts?

Kev, Tighty, my apologies, I've mis worded one word in there and it's the crux of the argument.

What I meant was could we not open up a satellite to anybody who plays on the blonde poker room, rather than the entire iPoker network, and again rather than password protected comps that only Blonde forum members can access (I'm assuming that most people on Blonde Poker are not forum members).

Its very frustrating Paul, we have tried before and we never get the runners ... simple as that mate. also we cannot advertise or promote comps as sats to a specific event, all we can do is structure them so as the first prize pays a set amount and the players all agree on what they are playing for.

Feeders to a sat ... again we tried and failed to get 6 runners !

Its something that I am keen to offer members, but logistically its a nightmare, and leads to frustration for players when sats dont take place because of 1 or 2 empty seats.


The one off 6 player comps with a winner takes all prize and the other 5 get a 10% share in that winner is the simplest format ... and one that works IF we have the interest.

most of our cardroom players are on the forum

there simply isn't the extra demand to open them up,most of our players don't have the bankrolls to play sats of this size. We struggle to fill one as it is.

I can't see them generating anywhere near 30 seats. The last one we did was a real struggle to get six people to play one sat.

Agreed, I played it to fill it. Glad I did, thanks Andrew, but it wasn't geniune demand to play it from me

Andrew, maybe people are put off by "giving" away so much of a %age of the possible winnings?

I am only suggesting what "ideally" I would run - but I hear Kev when he says it is a nitemare - been there and done that. Seems people "want" satelites, but when it comes down to it they dont register. Like Kev said its frustrating.

Not just that, a lot of people on here, myself included, cant afford a $200 sat.

Obviously the answer here is for five people to give me £200 each for 10% of me in the £1000 tournament.

I have a 100% record in returning a profit to my backers over the course of my past one tournament so this is a cast iron guarantee of certain profit.*

*Not a guarantee

kev pardon my ignorance. i know we have blonde only cash tables but do we have blonde only sit n goes?

maybe if we did we could arrange feeders on there with maybe someone posting a forum post inviting others to join with the agreement that the winner uses the money to play in the bigger satalite arrange by you.

maybe a $20 10 seater sit n go table with the winner taking all giving them the $200 for the main sat. obv they would have to add there own reg fee to the tournament u arrange.

just a thought and if considered bollox then fine  rotflmfao

the quote "even a blind squirrel finds a nut sometimes" comes to mind  ;)

we dont have blonde exclusive stt's  as a matter of course, i have to request these as and when we need them.

Like i said before, I have tried feeders but we couldnt get 6 runners !!

I am currently looking at various different options to try and please as many people as i can ... what an impossible task that is by the way :D

I can run 6 seat or 10 seat sats to live events, but sats to these are where we have trouble.

cant we have a blonde $20 10 seater set up permantly paying winner only to be used solely for this purpose?

then when some of us are sitting online we may be able to spontaniously drum up enough trade via a thread.

a thankless task i know mate but one you do very well  ;thankyou;

I will make enquiries on the permanent $20 stt table.

thanks mate

Good idea....I think this would work well for Luton, as I think we could find a solid 4 or 5 for the 6 seater sat.

....and because its a weekend/geographically fairly central/popular venue/Blonde has a core of Luton players....I'm sure a low stake feeder sat would get runners.