Title: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Longy on November 26, 2007, 05:58:54 PM Basically my lack of a sleeping pattern is driving me up the wall. Since Friday my sleep has been like this:
Got up Friday 4pm went to pub soon after. Friday night slept Midnight to 2:30am Saturday night slept 6pm to 2am Sunday morning was tired so slept for 2hours 11am to 1pm Sunday night 1am to 4:30pm (Yes 14 and half hours) I mean wtf as you may guess i play poker for a living and therefore have no structure that a job keeps you in, I try to re structure to a standard sleeping pattern quite often but alarms are no use it seems as i just ignore cos i know i don't have to get up. Am I just been a lazy unmotivated git or is there an underlying problem here, I mean not seeing daylight is annoying the hell out of me. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: The_duke on November 26, 2007, 06:17:14 PM No worries -- thats more hours over the number of days you're talking about than I get
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: madasahatstand on November 26, 2007, 06:23:42 PM Personally there is no was i could funtion with a sleeping pattern like that. Some people can and dont have any effects at all. Other people would become ill so i guess you got to weigh up what your own body requires. If you get ill a lot with colds, flu's and chesty bugs then your immune system probably can't handle the lack of routine:) If you are going to keep this kind of routine up, make sure you make time for some exercise and food:) They will keep you in tip top shape:)
Good luck with your poker :) Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: TheChipPrince on November 26, 2007, 06:26:54 PM Have you not tried a schedule Longy? Obv games are aviailable 24/7 to an interent pro. Why not try and stick to sessions, 12pm - 2.30pm, hours break, then 3.30pm - 5.30pm, break for food etc and chill for a couple of hours, then try a 3 hour session lator on, say 9pm-12pm?
O change these to suit 'fishy traffic' i guess, whatever time you think they may be about... Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: vegaslover on November 26, 2007, 08:05:47 PM Nothing unusual in that at all Longy, based on the lifestyle to go with it.
You get less sleep when you consume alcohol, and the rest of the time your playing catch up so sleep at unusual times. The 14 hour stint is your bodies way of saying your knackered. Nothing wrong with being up most of the night so long as you get regular sleep, at a consistent time to counter this. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: LeKnave on November 26, 2007, 08:59:26 PM I lived like that for ages. its amazing
dont change to a structure, that would be a huge beat imo. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Bongo on November 26, 2007, 09:03:39 PM Try the 28hour day.
http://www.dbeat.com/28/ Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: bobby1 on November 26, 2007, 09:09:25 PM Basically my lack of a sleeping pattern is driving me up the wall. Since Friday my sleep has been like this: Got up Friday 4pm went to pub soon after. Friday night slept Midnight to 2:30am Saturday night slept 6pm to 2am Sunday morning was tired so slept for 2hours 11am to 1pm Sunday night 1am to 4:30pm (Yes 14 and half hours) I mean wtf as you may guess i play poker for a living and therefore have no structure that a job keeps you in, I try to re structure to a standard sleeping pattern quite often but alarms are no use it seems as i just ignore cos i know i don't have to get up. Am I just been a lazy unmotivated git or is there an underlying problem here, I mean not seeing daylight is annoying the hell out of me. I am in a similar spot, the day is just a 24 hour period with no descernable night or day. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: KingPoker on November 26, 2007, 09:10:53 PM personally im a morning and night person.
There is nothing i love more than being up playing poker at 3am with my window open with the moon shining through, apart from being up at 6 am when its just getting light and walking the dogs. I hate having loads of sleep and dont need much more than 4hrs sleep, if i have more than 7 im yawning all day and rubbing my eyes. But having said that, i still have structure, 3am is my cut off at night and as i know i can still get in 4 hrs before getting up for work, it really isnt good for you to have irregular sleeping times as it puts a lot of stress on ur mind and your body. Do u want structure though longy, if you do, it is surprisingly easy to achieve if you have a modicum (sp) of discipline. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: RichEO on November 26, 2007, 10:09:34 PM My weekend's sleep:
Friday night (Saturday morning) 5:30am-8am Saturday 3:30am-10am Sunday 4am - Monday 6pm Basically, sleep had to fit around this: Saturday 8:40am N Wales. Saturday 9:20am Ellesmere port Saturday 12:30pm Grosvenor Victoria London Saturday 11:00pm Empire Casino Sunday 1:00pm Broadway casino Sunday 11pm Stoke circus casino Sunday 3:45am back in N Wales. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on November 27, 2007, 04:34:53 AM ...sleep..I remember that.
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: RED-DOG on November 27, 2007, 09:24:07 AM The 14 hour stink is your bodies way of saying your knackered It may have something to do with your diet. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: danafish on November 27, 2007, 05:49:24 PM We've been up for 26 hours. We feel ill.
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Djinn on November 27, 2007, 05:53:24 PM Can I go to bed now?
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: danafish on November 27, 2007, 05:53:42 PM No. Drink your bourbon.
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Claw75 on November 27, 2007, 06:10:53 PM Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: KarmaDope on November 28, 2007, 12:01:35 AM Why do that to yourselves?
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Longy on November 28, 2007, 12:10:39 AM Thanks for the replies, I think I would like a structure but I fear im not motivated enough to have one.
Example this evening ad on sky for Sri Lanka vs England test series starting at 4:30am Saturday, my reaction was to think how i could get up at 4am to settle down for 7 hours cricket hmmmmmm. Given im going to the opening of DTD thursday evening (thinly veiled brag). Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: bobby1 on November 28, 2007, 12:15:05 AM went to bed at 5 am this morning and surfaced for the racing at about 11 ish, then went to bed at 16.30 for a power nap before the footy and emerged at 23.30, I too am struggling to use the alarm clock as you described.
Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Moskvich on November 28, 2007, 12:16:35 AM Quote Thanks for the replies, I think I would like a structure but I fear im not motivated enough to have one. Example this evening ad on sky for Sri Lanka vs England test series starting at 4:30am Saturday, my reaction was to think how i could get up at 4am to settle down for 7 hours cricket hmmmmmm. Given im going to the opening of dtd thursday evening (thinly veiled brag). I think I may have just found my soulmate, but am concerned they may not look great in a dress. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Longy on November 28, 2007, 12:33:53 AM Quote Thanks for the replies, I think I would like a structure but I fear im not motivated enough to have one. Example this evening ad on sky for Sri Lanka vs England test series starting at 4:30am Saturday, my reaction was to think how i could get up at 4am to settle down for 7 hours cricket hmmmmmm. Given im going to the opening of dt (http://www.dtdpoker.com/aff/BlonditesDownload)d (http://www.dtdpoker.com/aff/BlonditesDownload) thursday evening (thinly veiled brag). I think I may have just found my soulmate, but am concerned they may not look great in a dress. Your concerns are very well founded. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on November 28, 2007, 05:08:59 AM Nearly 5am and im still up.
Last night was the same and I have to get up at 7.30am latest to get kids to school. I did have a kind of routine where I sleep maybe 2 hours (up to 4 is better) take the kids to school, then sleep from 9am till 2pm...its worked for me for the last couple of years but because my daughter has been playing up so much about going to school she is now going part time ie IF i can get her there she is there from 9am till 12pm which means I dont get my 5 hour kip :-( Only 2 days into it and im cream crackered. What I need is a reason to go to bed LOL Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: AndrewT on November 28, 2007, 09:49:53 AM Sounds like a lot of you are B-people - our body clocks tend to run a bit longer than 24 hour cycles.
http://www.b-society.org/node/15 (http://www.b-society.org/node/15) I know I am as well - even if I'm really tired I have trouble getting to sleep at night, and getting up in the mornings is hell. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Moskvich on November 28, 2007, 12:38:11 PM Quote Sounds like a lot of you are B-people - our body clocks tend to run a bit longer than 24 hour cycles. http://www.b-society.org/node/15 Interesting, thanks for that. I've always run on this sort of 26-28 hour cycle. I find it incredibly hard to stick to a typical 11pm-7am sort of sleep pattern, and once I'm out of line, waking up later, I have to get further out of line in order to get back to 'normal' - ie I have to stretch the cycle still further for a few days, rather than just cutting back my sleep and getting up earlier on one day. That said, I don't know really how natural this is for me - it generally doesn't leave me feeling very well. Shouldn't complain too much though, sympathy to Suzanne for her zero hour sleep cycles... Longy, maybe you should set up a home game for 4.30 am Saturday, looks like you could get a few takers..! Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: AndrewT on November 28, 2007, 01:17:28 PM Those of you that have no actual job, and just doss about playing poker, might want to experiment with the six day week.
Instead of seven 24-hour days, you adjust your routine so your week consists of six 28-hour days (you go to bed four hours later every calendar day). Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on November 29, 2007, 01:10:30 PM Yep im definatly a B person.
Those of you that have no actual job, and just doss about playing poker, might want to experiment with the six day week. Instead of seven 24-hour days, you adjust your routine so your week consists of six 28-hour days (you go to bed four hours later every calendar day). I think this would suit me perfect if I didnt have to get up for the kids. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: RED-DOG on November 29, 2007, 03:28:08 PM Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: thetank on November 30, 2007, 02:58:50 AM Bollox to this b-person bollox, what you have is alarm apathy. What my mother (and everyone's mother in fact) would call lazy.
No reason to get up when you ain't got shit to do that can't get done later. Fuck all you can do about not being up late, goes with the territory. Poker poker poker. What you can do is create a reason to get up (not at silly o'clock, I'm not talking Egg McMuffin early, noon or something reasonable like that) Get a regular appointment set up. A squash game etc, with a friend who has a real job and a lunch hour. (Or a fellow bum with a similar problem) The alarm starts to mean something, you have to get out of bed or it'll let the other person down. Maybe on other days you could get some guitar lessons organised or something. Be creative, fill the week, get some hobbys that don't involve hearts and diamonds. I lived that lifestyle for 2 years and a bit and never played one fucking game of squash, wish I did now. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on November 30, 2007, 05:20:40 AM Bollox to this b-person bollox, what you have is alarm apathy. What my mother (and everyone's mother in fact) would call lazy. No reason to get up when you ain't got shit to do that can't get done later. Fuck all you can do about not being up late, goes with the territory. Poker poker poker. What you can do is create a reason to get up (not at silly o'clock, I'm not talking Egg McMuffin early, noon or something reasonable like that) Get a regular appointment set up. A squash game etc, with a friend who has a real job and a lunch hour. (Or a fellow bum with a similar problem) The alarm starts to mean something, you have to get out of bed or it'll let the other person down. Maybe on other days you could get some guitar lessons organised or something. Be creative, fill the week, get some hobbys that don't involve hearts and diamonds. I lived that lifestyle for 2 years and a bit and never played one fucking game of squash, wish I did now. Naaa ur wrong tanky. I had from an early age a sleep problem, falling asleep in class etc. I went on to college with the intentions of trying to make uni but I was just too tired during the day to concentrate, i would study at night just fine but was too tired to make classes and so failed my course. I then went to Spain and worked there for nearly 10 years off and on and the normal time for bed was 4.30am which was fine but with each night of the week I would have to stay up a few hours more till by day 5 I had stayed up all night and day and then slept for 14 hours on my day off so I was ready to tackle the following week. When my kids were babies it was so easy for me to get up for them in the middle of the night, in fact to be honest I enjoyed those middle of the night times, just me and the baby and the whole world fast asleep (pre online poker lol) It was probably down to me that my daughter was 4yrs old before she slept all night. But that was all 6 years ago and yet here I am at nearly 5.30 and still awake :-( Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on November 30, 2007, 06:22:42 AM Actually...to be honest.
Apart from being worried sick about my family and how I can cope with looking after them I now have a new problem which will mean that looking after my family will be taken out of my hands. I am expecting a visit from the police tomorrow and have no idea what is going to happen but it doesnt look good. My sister has a very dodgy on/off partner, shes been with him for about 10 yrs now but hes never around. Hes either got loads of money or is completely skint. My sis worked out that it would be a good idea to stash some money to pay the bills for the down periods and thats what she did. She paid all the bills and told him that she borrowed the money from me. She then nagged him to pay the money back to me which he did and then when the money appered in my account I transferred it back into her secret account. It now turns out that the money he paid to me was stolen and I am now being accused of money laundering...actually Im not being accussed, I have been told that I am guilty of the offence but they now need to establish if I did it with knowledge or not. I had absolutely no idea what was going on but they are not going to believe that are they!! I just want it all over done with...the waiting and mental torment is far worse than knowing. A couple of month in a cell doesnt seem so bad right now...hopefully I will finally find out tomorrow ( in a few hours) what is going on. Its sure to cure my sleeping patterns tho :-) Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: madasahatstand on November 30, 2007, 07:17:04 AM Actually...to be honest. Apart from being worried sick about my family and how I can cope with looking after them I now have a new problem which will mean that looking after my family will be taken out of my hands. I am expecting a visit from the police tomorrow and have no idea what is going to happen but it doesnt look good. My sister has a very dodgy on/off partner, shes been with him for about 10 yrs now but hes never around. Hes either got loads of money or is completely skint. My sis worked out that it would be a good idea to stash some money to pay the bills for the down periods and thats what she did. She paid all the bills and told him that she borrowed the money from me. She then nagged him to pay the money back to me which he did and then when the money appered in my account I transferred it back into her secret account. It now turns out that the money he paid to me was stolen and I am now being accused of money laundering...actually Im not being accussed, I have been told that I am guilty of the offence but they now need to establish if I did it with knowledge or not. I had absolutely no idea what was going on but they are not going to believe that are they!! I just want it all over done with...the waiting and mental torment is far worse than knowing. A couple of month in a cell doesnt seem so bad right now...hopefully I will finally find out tomorrow ( in a few hours) what is going on. Its sure to cure my sleeping patterns tho :-) suzzane I hope it goes alright for you. If you didnt know, how can they say you did? Do you have witnesses to say this guy and your sis had a stormy relationship? This kind of thing must happen all the time and unless its a significant amount of cash, i dont see why they wouldnt believe that. The loss of your liberty might seem like a good idea now, but i doubt it would suit you. Im sure it will be okay. Make sure you are taking legal advice good luck Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: thetank on November 30, 2007, 02:24:06 PM Wasn't talking to you anyway ;nana;
Was meant as a reply to the original poster. Yours is a situation I cannot identify with, but wish you well as you continue to deal with it. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Longy on November 30, 2007, 06:37:53 PM Wasn't talking to you anyway ;nana; Was meant as a reply to the original poster. Yours is a situation I cannot identify with, but wish you well as you continue to deal with it. Who me? Tank you are almost certainly right about me, but I suppose I was looking for answers when its the fact that my own motivation is the root of it. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on December 02, 2007, 03:55:07 AM HAHAHA I missed this before :-) Tanky you are missing the point here, some people have serious sleep problems from an early age and no amount of timetabling is going to change that. I remember as a young child (maybe 6 or 7) writing pleading letters to santa for a radio with earphones so I could listen to music instead of just staring out the window into the darkness. By the time I was 9 I had my walkin cupboard stocked up with Enid Blyton books, snacks (oxo cubes was my fav), I had a shelf built at the top and I would climb up the door frame and sit on that shelf for hours with the door closed and read a book a night by torchlight. Im sure most of you have experienced nights when you go to bed and just cant sleep..you toss and turn and watch the clock wishing it was morning. I am like that all the time. I know there is no point in going to bed just coz its 3am coz I wont sleep..end off. Do you have the same problem Longy or it just a case of "Im playing well/bad" and dont WANT to sleep? Update on last post. The guy was supposed to visit me at 10am on Friday, he still hadnt arrived by 10.45 so I phoned local police station, then Edinburgh and finally tracked him down. He was still in Scotland and hadnt bothered to phone and tell me he couldnt make it. So I still dont know whats happening as he was out of the office when I phoned. Its not a huge amount of money (4k) but never having been in trouble with the police before I am very worried. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: Longy on December 02, 2007, 04:33:38 AM No i don't Suzanne to be fair, my problems are totally insignificant compared to yours. I struggle to fall asleep most nights unless im super tired, but i have no structure which is the source of my frustration. I sleep when i like and go to bed when i like it is super cool privelege that playing poker affords me.
I just do as I please in all truth, I have a brilliant life to be fair. I love my job, i have no-one who relies on me and i maintain an active social life. Suzanne i wish you well, good luck with everything, to be honest i feel quite shitty moaning about it. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: suzanne on December 02, 2007, 04:58:40 AM Awww now I feel bad :-(
Sorry Longy xxxxxxxx I know I have a sleep problem coz ive had it all my life but actually it sounds worse when I put it in writing. Its not really a major problem to me coz I have had it all my life and have adapted. Was just trying to point out to Tank that its not as easy as just changing ur schedule, for some of us its just not that simple. Title: Re: Sleeping pattern (or lack of) Post by: lucky_scrote on December 03, 2007, 01:41:33 PM I used to be the same, i used to stay awake for around 18 hours and sleep for 10, patterns were all over the place. I realised after a year of doing this i was missing out on a lot of socializing.
I now go to bed for 2-2:30am and get up at midday. I have been doing this for about 4 months now and i definitely feel a lot fresher; i can also go out on Friday and Saturday nights and get totally legless...and still have energy left over its great. Just get a decent sleep pattern and you will see the rewards :) Unless you don't like socializing of course :D |