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Title: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: tikay on December 06, 2007, 04:59:52 PM I had this from Warren Lush, of Party Poker, a few days back. Proper charmer is Mr Lush - see my italics. ".....Gibraltar – December 3rd, 2007 – Coverage of the inaugural PartyPoker Women’s World Open gets underway on Five in the UK and Ireland at 12.30 am on Wednesday 5th December/Thursday 6th December and will run for eight weeks. The 36 runner field features one of the strongest line-up’s ever assembled for a women’s poker tournament in Europe. Leading the field is American trio Jennifer Tilly, Liz Lieu and Shannon Elizabeth. Tilly is an Academy Award nominated actress and WSOP and WPT champion, while poker pin-up Lieu is one of the world’s most feared cash game players and a star of the successful PartyPoker Premier League Poker series. Actress Shannon Elizabeth is best known for her role as an au pair in the film American Pie but has had success on the professional circuit, including making the semi-finals of the NBC Heads-Up Championship in the United States. Lieu was made favourite at the outset by bookmakers PartyBets.com. The tournament was PartyPoker’s first ever all-female event and was produced by Matchroom Sport. A similar format to the annual PartyPoker World Open was followed, as 36 players from across the globe battled it out for a share of a $108,000 prize-fund. The buy-in for the tournament was set at $3,000, with the eventual winner taking home a cool $50,000. Amongst the European challengers were Xuyen “Bad Girl” Pham, former PartyPoker World Open winner Pippa Flanders, European Ladies champion Jackie Meecham, Katharine Hartree, Jackie Vaswani, Deborah Rogers, Lucy Rokach, Beverley Pace, Jen Mason, Shelley Rubenstein, Maria Demetriou and Kara Scott. A PartyPoker spokesman said: “The line-up wasn’t only one of the strongest ever assembled for a women’s tournament in Europe, it was also one of the prettiest.” Commentary is provided by Jesse May and Shannon Elizabeth............." I'm sure Bev, Jen, & Maria will be delighted to know that Party Poker think they are "pretty". Proper worsdsmith, that Warren. Worth watching though, Jesse provides, as usual, terrific commentary, & young Chili does a stint in the commentator's booth, too. Because she's good, or because she's pretty, one idly wonders....... Seriously, I jest, it's a terrific comp, & the blondes did us proud with a 1-2-3. Great telly. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: DesD on December 06, 2007, 05:05:16 PM I had this from Warren Lush, of Party Poker, a few days back. Proper charmer is Mr Lush - see my italics. Do you think he was drinking when he wrote it? Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: TightEnd on December 06, 2007, 05:06:26 PM writing press releases is an art,however Mr Lush fails at the science of his...........
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Indestructable on December 06, 2007, 05:35:50 PM Last night was the celebrity edition. Didn't watch it as I didn't recognize many of the names apart from Kara and Leilani, and that was it. A bit like celebrity jungle, who, who, who?? I enjoy watching celebrity heats, but at least have some real celebrities.
Someone will probably now say that they are really famous? :dontask: Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: tikay on December 06, 2007, 05:38:21 PM Last night was the celebrity edition. Didn't watch it as I didn't recognize many of the names apart from Kara and Leilani, and that was it. A bit like celebrity jungle, who, who, who?? I enjoy watching celebrity heats, but at least have some real celebrities. Someone will probably now say that they are really famous? :dontask: You miss the point I think Ed. They were pretty. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Ironside on December 06, 2007, 05:58:50 PM Last night was the celebrity edition. Didn't watch it as I didn't recognize many of the names apart from Kara and Leilani, and that was it. A bit like celebrity jungle, who, who, who?? I enjoy watching celebrity heats, but at least have some real celebrities. Someone will probably now say that they are really famous? :dontask: you must know micheala tabb she is one of the top pool/snooker refs in country she was also on identity on bbc2 but i forgot you missed that one Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: TightEnd on December 06, 2007, 06:00:30 PM Michaela Tabb is a blondeite.
To use her immortal catchphrase "Ronnie O'Sullivan...47" Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Mango99 on December 06, 2007, 06:02:34 PM I think it's a good press release. Warren's a good bloke - allows me to put players in wearing hugely oversized (non ofcom compliant) logos, and also didn't kill me when I accidentally persauded one of his online qualifiers to wear my shirt in the semi final, even though he wore a PP shirt in the qualifier lol ;)
As for the Women's Open - let's face it, most blokes would rather watch a boring poker game of ladies playing than a boring poker game of blokes playing?.. Not that the Women's Open was boring - in fact it has some of the most exciting, jaw dropping, poker action I've ever seen! :) Also Jen and Maria both play excellently - putting the rest of the field (aside from Bronwyn Campell, Kara Scott, Bev Pace, etc to shame). One amazing hand happens in Jen's heat - where her opponent passes an incredibly strong hand preflop. You'll have to see this one to believe it I tells you! :) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Indestructable on December 06, 2007, 06:12:26 PM Last night was the celebrity edition. Didn't watch it as I didn't recognize many of the names apart from Kara and Leilani, and that was it. A bit like celebrity jungle, who, who, who?? I enjoy watching celebrity heats, but at least have some real celebrities. Someone will probably now say that they are really famous? :dontask: you must know micheala tabb she is one of the top pool/snooker refs in country she was also on identity on bbc2 but i forgot you missed that one Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Laxie on December 06, 2007, 06:14:09 PM My brain's like a sieve these days. Will someone please bump this thread next Wednesday as a reminder? Cheers!
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Indestructable on December 06, 2007, 06:14:47 PM Last night was the celebrity edition. Didn't watch it as I didn't recognize many of the names apart from Kara and Leilani, and that was it. A bit like celebrity jungle, who, who, who?? I enjoy watching celebrity heats, but at least have some real celebrities. Someone will probably now say that they are really famous? :dontask: You miss the point I think Ed. They were pretty. Trouble is i don't know them to know if they are pretty or not. Kara aside but she is Canadian. ;whistle; Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: tikay on December 06, 2007, 06:16:41 PM I think it's a good press release. Warren's a good bloke - allows me to put players in wearing hugely oversized (non ofcom compliant) logos, and also didn't kill me when I accidentally persauded one of his online qualifiers to wear my shirt in the semi final, even though he wore a PP shirt in the qualifier lol ;) As for the Women's Open - let's face it, most blokes would rather watch a boring poker game of ladies playing than a boring poker game of blokes playing?.. Not that the Women's Open was boring - in fact it has some of the most exciting, jaw dropping, poker action I've ever seen! :) Also Jen and Maria both play excellently - putting the rest of the field (aside from Bronwyn Campell, Kara Scott, Bev Pace, etc to shame). One amazing hand happens in Jen's heat - where her opponent passes an incredibly strong hand preflop. You'll have to see this one to believe it I tells you! :) The quality of poker played was superb, as was the TV Coverage, & the Commentary. No argument there. As to Mr Lush, well, I don't know the fella, & I'm sure he's a wonderful man, & no, I'm not being sarcy. But I just baulk at PR-corporate-speak stuff. I have my own little mind & brain, & I can work out for myself whether someone is "pretty" or not, without being told. It's like telling us Dolly Parton is buxom - we kinda know that already...... I have a view on Ladies Only Tourneys, & can live with them, notwithstanding the usual "sexist" hoohah, & I'm as proud as punch that Bev, Jen & Maria did so well. But when I get an e-Mail telling me I ought to watch a poker Touirney because the players are "the prettiest", well, come on! For the avoidance of doubt. Great TV, great play, great players. Like many of us, I know Bev, Jen & Maria very well. They'd LOVE to be called the great players that they genuinely are. As to being called pretty..... Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: byronkincaid on December 06, 2007, 06:23:10 PM dunno what the fuss is about, if I was playing Antonius heads up and the press release said we have the fittest best looking most talented poker player in the world here playing up and coming youngster Patrik, then I'd be like well yeah, LDO.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Mango99 on December 06, 2007, 06:24:33 PM I think it's a good press release. Warren's a good bloke - allows me to put players in wearing hugely oversized (non ofcom compliant) logos, and also didn't kill me when I accidentally persauded one of his online qualifiers to wear my shirt in the semi final, even though he wore a PP shirt in the qualifier lol ;) As for the Women's Open - let's face it, most blokes would rather watch a boring poker game of ladies playing than a boring poker game of blokes playing?.. Not that the Women's Open was boring - in fact it has some of the most exciting, jaw dropping, poker action I've ever seen! :) Also Jen and Maria both play excellently - putting the rest of the field (aside from Bronwyn Campell, Kara Scott, Bev Pace, etc to shame). One amazing hand happens in Jen's heat - where her opponent passes an incredibly strong hand preflop. You'll have to see this one to believe it I tells you! :) The quality of poker played was superb, as was the TV Coverage, & the Commentary. No argument there. As to Mr Lush, well, I don't know the fella, & I'm sure he's a wonderful man, & no, I'm not being sarcy. But I just baulk at PR-corporate-speak stuff. I have my own little mind & brain, & I can work out for myself whether someone is "pretty" or not, without being told. It's like telling us Dolly Parton is buxom - we kinda know that already...... I have a view on Ladies Only Tourneys, & can live with them, notwithstanding the usual "sexist" hoohah, & I'm as proud as punch that Bev, Jen & Maria did so well. But when I get an e-Mail telling me I ought to watch a poker Touirney because the players are "the prettiest", well, come on! For the avoidance of doubt. Great TV, great play, great players. Like many of us, I know Bev, Jen & Maria very well. They'd LOVE to be called the great players that they genuinely are. As to being called pretty..... Aye, I get your point. On second reading it doesn't sound so good I guess :) Though, I guess if Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and some other Hollywood A-listers played a Men Only poker tourney, Warren would press release it with "not to say one of the most handsome poker fields ever assembled" or some such nonsense. I don't really see Warren's comment as being particularly sexist - besides it's kind of true. I could watch Bronwyn Campell play poker any day lol ;) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: tikay on December 06, 2007, 06:37:09 PM I think it's a good press release. Warren's a good bloke - allows me to put players in wearing hugely oversized (non ofcom compliant) logos, and also didn't kill me when I accidentally persauded one of his online qualifiers to wear my shirt in the semi final, even though he wore a PP shirt in the qualifier lol ;) As for the Women's Open - let's face it, most blokes would rather watch a boring poker game of ladies playing than a boring poker game of blokes playing?.. Not that the Women's Open was boring - in fact it has some of the most exciting, jaw dropping, poker action I've ever seen! :) Also Jen and Maria both play excellently - putting the rest of the field (aside from Bronwyn Campell, Kara Scott, Bev Pace, etc to shame). One amazing hand happens in Jen's heat - where her opponent passes an incredibly strong hand preflop. You'll have to see this one to believe it I tells you! :) The quality of poker played was superb, as was the TV Coverage, & the Commentary. No argument there. As to Mr Lush, well, I don't know the fella, & I'm sure he's a wonderful man, & no, I'm not being sarcy. But I just baulk at PR-corporate-speak stuff. I have my own little mind & brain, & I can work out for myself whether someone is "pretty" or not, without being told. It's like telling us Dolly Parton is buxom - we kinda know that already...... I have a view on Ladies Only Tourneys, & can live with them, notwithstanding the usual "sexist" hoohah, & I'm as proud as punch that Bev, Jen & Maria did so well. But when I get an e-Mail telling me I ought to watch a poker Touirney because the players are "the prettiest", well, come on! For the avoidance of doubt. Great TV, great play, great players. Like many of us, I know Bev, Jen & Maria very well. They'd LOVE to be called the great players that they genuinely are. As to being called pretty..... Aye, I get your point. On second reading it doesn't sound so good I guess :) Though, I guess if Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, and some other Hollywood A-listers played a Men Only poker tourney, Warren would press release it with "not to say one of the most handsome poker fields ever assembled" or some such nonsense. I don't really see Warren's comment as being particularly sexist - besides it's kind of true. I could watch Bronwyn Campell play poker any day lol ;) Each to their own I guess. Personally, I'd rather Mr Lush reminded us what a great player Bev is, show us or mention Jen's Poker CV - it's awesome, by any standards - or mention that Maria has played (roughly) Seven TV Tourneys, & had 2 wins, 3 seconds & two thirds, which is astonishing. Instead of which, we get told about some two-bit Yankee B-List movie actresses, while the poker prowess of Bev, Jen & Maria - & Kara & many others - get's forgotten. Because he needed to tell us they were "the prettiest"! Stll, this thread will remind everyone to watch the show. And see Jen & Maria in Poker.co.uk apparel. It's not pretty, but it's successful......;) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 06, 2007, 06:47:56 PM "it's important that they are pretty". Well, I guess that's only fair given the standard of gorgeousness of your average male poker player.....
Looks like the kind of thing you'd expect to find in a tabloid article, and 'pretty' irrelevant. That said, I wouldn't personally take offence at it (I'd actually be secretly quite pleased :D) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Mango99 on December 06, 2007, 06:49:35 PM lol, ty Tikay :)
Here's some dates for the diary: Maria's heat will be shown on 26th Dec Jen's will be shown on 9th jan The final will be shown on 16th Jan I don't have the date for Bev or Kara's heat unfortunately. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Dingdell on December 06, 2007, 06:50:43 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate.
I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Mango99 on December 06, 2007, 06:51:59 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate. I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? Stop knocking Barry Neville out of poker tournaments! ;) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Dingdell on December 06, 2007, 06:53:42 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate. I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? Stop knocking Barry (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) Neville (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) out of poker tournaments! ;) Is he the pretty one then? ;kev; Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 06, 2007, 06:54:56 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate. I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? spot on Trace Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Mango99 on December 06, 2007, 06:56:32 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate. I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? Stop knocking Barry (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) Neville (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) out of poker tournaments! ;) Is he the pretty one then? ;kev; lol!!! That really made me laugh :D :D :D Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: ifm on December 06, 2007, 07:00:25 PM You couldn't make it up!!
A womens only poker comp and the complaint is that saying they are pretty is sexist :D :D :D Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Dingdell on December 06, 2007, 07:00:41 PM Any woman is pretty compared to most male players - who don't want to be called pretty in any case so I guess the press release is acurate. I watched it last night and it was entertaining - Kara played well. What frustrates me is when people are invited to play because of how pretty they are - I know it's entertainment but it's also poker - I was shouting at the screen last night watching some of the play. How is that promoting poker? I actually got distracted at one point by the light reflecting off one of the girls lip gloss - it had to be seen to be believed. As a player I want to see good play and skill, clever moves, bluffs. There was some last night but not top notch poker. Looking forward to seeing the blondeite players who will be much better. I realise I will be in the minority with this opinion but after all this is a poker forum isn't it? Stop knocking Barry (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) Neville (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=42) out of poker tournaments! ;) Is he the pretty one then? ;kev; lol!!! That really made me laugh :D :D :D I know it was bad play on my part - I've already fessed up to that one but thanks for reminding me!! ::) The way he played the hand having just won a mountain of chips I really thought he was at it! Doh. Off to buy lip gloss just in case I get to play on Saturday.... ;D Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Colchester Kev on December 06, 2007, 07:03:59 PM You couldn't make it up!! A womens only poker comp and the complaint is that saying they are pretty is sexist :D :D :D Shock horror and full agreement from me. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 06, 2007, 07:04:31 PM You couldn't make it up!! A womens only poker comp and the complaint is that saying they are pretty is sexist :D :D :D don't think anyone's said that ??? Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Dingdell on December 06, 2007, 07:08:20 PM You couldn't make it up!! A womens only poker comp and the complaint is that saying they are pretty is sexist :D :D :D don't think anyone's said that ??? Yeah - who said that. I actually said the press release had to be accurate as no man can ever really be described as pretty nor would he want to (in the main) but if you want to be called a pretty boy IFM just ket us know.... Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Indestructable on December 06, 2007, 08:37:41 PM Never knew that Michaela had her own online shop
http://www.michaelatabbshop.com/mtclothing.html Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: bolt pp on December 06, 2007, 09:08:44 PM It would've been worse if he'd said: "the girls were mostly ugly but they played some good poker so dont worry about it"
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: action man on December 06, 2007, 09:47:56 PM I think it's a good press release. Warren's a good bloke - allows me to put players in wearing hugely oversized (non ofcom compliant) logos, and also didn't kill me when I accidentally persauded one of his online qualifiers to wear my shirt in the semi final, even though he wore a PP shirt in the qualifier lol ;) As for the Women's Open - let's face it, most blokes would rather watch a boring poker game of ladies playing than a boring poker game of blokes playing?.. Not that the Women's Open was boring - in fact it has some of the most exciting, jaw dropping, poker action I've ever seen! :) Also Jen and Maria both play excellently - putting the rest of the field (aside from Bronwyn Campell, Kara Scott, Bev Pace, etc to shame). One amazing hand happens in Jen's heat - where her opponent passes an incredibly strong hand preflop. You'll have to see this one to believe it I tells you! :) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: ifm on December 07, 2007, 12:05:40 AM You couldn't make it up!! A womens only poker comp and the complaint is that saying they are pretty is sexist :D :D :D don't think anyone's said that ??? So it's not sexist then. Crisis over. Can't believe i fell for the disguised spam post again, sigh. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: MKKfish on December 07, 2007, 02:35:53 AM I don't know why you are worrying your pretty little heads about it....
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Chili on December 07, 2007, 08:31:21 AM I don't know why you are worrying your pretty little heads about it.... My pretty little head is worrying if my bum will look big on tv........... Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: MKKfish on December 07, 2007, 09:23:10 AM I don't know why you are worrying your pretty little heads about it.... My pretty little head is worrying if my bum will look big on tv........... Ooh... are there some special camera angles for this event...? ;popcorn; Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Rod Paradise on December 07, 2007, 09:46:44 AM I don't know why you are worrying your pretty little heads about it.... My pretty little head is worrying if my bum will look big on tv........... Ooh... are there some special camera angles for this event...? ;popcorn; I'm definitely watching it now ;popcorn; ;kev; ;) Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: MKKfish on December 07, 2007, 10:03:05 AM This is going to be a veritable minefield for the commentators...
We've got 'backdoor' this and 'backdoor' that.. *snigger* "Everyone's got a pair" "All in" "She's flopped the nuts" It's endless.. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: ifm on December 07, 2007, 02:08:12 PM "she has a tell, she licks her lips when she's holding the nuts"
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 07, 2007, 02:20:25 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: tikay on December 07, 2007, 02:30:15 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: snoopy1239 on December 07, 2007, 02:33:26 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. Considering that they are trying to attract audiences, yes, I believe that if they comment on the attractiveness of the participants, especially when they are the likes of Tilly, Elizabeth and Lieu, then people are more likely to watch the show. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Rod Paradise on December 07, 2007, 02:35:48 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon Elizabeth's breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 07, 2007, 04:07:42 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. Is this any different than online poker sites (blonde included), using pretty girls for marketing purposes? I doubt the woman in the banner to the right there would be featuring in the ad if she wasn't pretty. There's also been talk about having a new 'face of blonde'. I presume the face will be a pretty one? Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Ironside on December 07, 2007, 04:11:12 PM woman in the blonde banner aint that pretty compared to the average woman on the street
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Chili on December 07, 2007, 04:13:36 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127) Elizabeth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127)'s breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. I think everyone understands the marketing concept here, bottom level, sloppiness & appealing to standard brain cells. Although it is understood, it doesn't make it better for the actual "players" involved in this tournament who just want recognition for their play and nothing else (well ok, rewarded in monetary terms too I guess). Ho hum - such is life as TK would say. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 07, 2007, 04:14:07 PM woman in the blonde banner aint that pretty compared to the average woman on the street but she's attractive, and definitely not ugly. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Graham C on December 07, 2007, 04:16:50 PM woman in the blonde banner aint that pretty compared to the average woman on the street If they all look like that, send me the property section from your area please :D Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: bolt pp on December 07, 2007, 04:17:19 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. Is this any different than online poker sites (blonde included), using pretty girls for marketing purposes? I doubt the woman in the banner to the right there would be featuring in the ad if she wasn't pretty. There's also been talk about having a new 'face of blonde'. I presume the face will be a pretty one? It would be so funny if it was the elephant man, they should try it, it's something different and it would catch peoples eye. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: byronkincaid on December 07, 2007, 04:17:35 PM woman in the blonde banner aint that pretty compared to the average woman on the street LOL? ??? Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Claw75 on December 07, 2007, 04:18:13 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. Is this any different than online poker sites (blonde included), using pretty girls for marketing purposes? I doubt the woman in the banner to the right there would be featuring in the ad if she wasn't pretty. There's also been talk about having a new 'face of blonde'. I presume the face will be a pretty one? It would be so funny if it was the elephant man, they should try it, it's something different and it would catch peoples eye. lmao. nearly made me choke on my tea then!!! Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Ironside on December 07, 2007, 04:21:39 PM she isnt attractive to me as she is unobtainable
she looks nice but to me to be attractive and thus attracting me to a product she needs o look obtainable Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: bolt pp on December 07, 2007, 04:23:39 PM ;pokergods; someone paste the elephant man head on the serious business poster.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Rod Paradise on December 07, 2007, 04:26:55 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127) Elizabeth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127)'s breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. I think everyone understands the marketing concept here, bottom level, sloppiness & appealing to standard brain cells. Although it is understood, it doesn't make it better for the actual "players" involved in this tournament who just want recognition for their play and nothing else (well ok, rewarded in monetary terms too I guess). Ho hum - such is life as TK would say. Don't worry Maria - I recognise you for your poker play. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Chili on December 07, 2007, 04:50:39 PM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127) Elizabeth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127)'s breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. I think everyone understands the marketing concept here, bottom level, sloppiness & appealing to standard brain cells. Although it is understood, it doesn't make it better for the actual "players" involved in this tournament who just want recognition for their play and nothing else (well ok, rewarded in monetary terms too I guess). Ho hum - such is life as TK would say. Don't worry Maria - I recognise you for your poker play. Well there's something :-* Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: MKKfish on December 07, 2007, 05:20:16 PM woman in the blonde banner aint that pretty compared to the average woman on the street er...... gis some directions Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: George2Loose on December 07, 2007, 06:46:41 PM I thought the standard was very high- the women were all quite aggressive.
Kara is very lucky on TV! I remember she horirbly outdrew someone on 88.com and then beat QQ vs A10 on a 10 high board- but hey we all love Kara!!! However I did think Shannon was a bit harsh with her commentary - often being results orientated rather then praising certain plays Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 02:02:29 AM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127) Elizabeth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127)'s breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. I think everyone understands the marketing concept here, bottom level, sloppiness & appealing to standard brain cells. Although it is understood, it doesn't make it better for the actual "players" involved in this tournament who just want recognition for their play and nothing else (well ok, rewarded in monetary terms too I guess). Ho hum - such is life as TK would say. I think in the main that women who play in womens only poker comps won't get the recognition they deserve and therefore should boycott these daft tourney's, then they stop making them. Do Maria, Jen and Bev play them cos they see them as easy money? If not why do women play in them? It cant be cos they feel 'more comfortable' in a womem only environment. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Chili on December 09, 2007, 02:22:25 AM Think this is a bit harsh, I don't really see the problem. It's TV, he's advertising the three main attractions, makes sense to me. You think, then, that you are more likely to watch the show if he refers to them as "pretty", rather than having their rather impressive Poker accomplishments mentioned? That's my point - it's assumed we are all daft, & they think that "pretty" is the hook which will get us to watch the show. If true, that's pretty. Pretty sad. No, it's assumed that the poker fans will watch for the poker, BUT it's also a valid advertising method to attract the punter who's kinda interested in poker kinda interested in Shannon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127) Elizabeth (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1127)'s breasts, and flicking through the channels & remembers "Ohh Shannon's playing poker on that", thus increasing their audience & increasing profit for the channel, all to the betterment of the game. I think everyone understands the marketing concept here, bottom level, sloppiness & appealing to standard brain cells. Although it is understood, it doesn't make it better for the actual "players" involved in this tournament who just want recognition for their play and nothing else (well ok, rewarded in monetary terms too I guess). Ho hum - such is life as TK would say. I think in the main that women who play in womens only poker comps won't get the recognition they deserve and therefore should boycott these daft tourney's, then they stop making them. Do Maria, Jen and Bev play them cos they see them as easy money? If not why do women play in them? It cant be cos they feel 'more comfortable' in a women only environment. I believe you are right celtic on the whole, I can't speak for Jen or Bev but I personally don't mind admitting that I saw this tournament as not quite "easy" money but a small distance to travel to a possible $50,000. Anyone that knows me personally knows my stance on female only tournaments it is safe to say there is slim to zero chance of me doing another one, be it televised or not. One thing I do want to add though and setting aside parts of the "celebrity" heat, the standard of play in this tournament was very high and from women who feel comfatable playing poker in any environment male or female. I still feel though deep down that out on the live tournament circuit, a distinction between the sexes should not exist, but thats just my personal opinion. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 02:31:48 AM when it comes to 'celebrity' heats the standard is dreadful on the whole regardless of sex. I remember Leslie Granthan folding the nuts to a bet on the river in one of these heats.
Not really sure who wants these tourney's. The public don't imo. Poker is a game that breaks the male / female boundaries. For every woman that plays at luton there are ten male players that are worse than them. And on the whole i think men respect women at the poker table, after all they hold the same cards and make the same bets etc, and anyone who makes a call because they are playing a women is a bad player. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Chili on December 09, 2007, 02:48:16 AM And on the whole i think men respect women at the poker table, after all they hold the same cards and make the same bets etc, and anyone who makes a call because they are playing a women is a bad player. You would not believe the amount of players that do this, and I mean well known players. Some people just cannot get over sterotypes eh! Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: celtic on December 09, 2007, 02:50:19 AM lol i can believe it maria, i've seen it. It never fails to amaze me tho.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: AlexMartin on December 09, 2007, 06:08:20 AM And on the whole i think men respect women at the poker table, after all they hold the same cards and make the same bets etc, and anyone who makes a call because they are playing a women is a bad player. You would not believe the amount of players that do this, and I mean well known players. Some people just cannot get over sterotypes eh! Im guilty of this in certain instances. With good reason. If a woman is very attractive, imo chances are she has never had the need or inclination to become a total poker degen and reach a high skill level. Being bought loads of fancy stuff by rich blokes means the nearest she got to sklansky's theories was getting her hair done in Tony+Guy next to Waterstones. Just a nice broad generalisation but one we all make as players. It helps build up a quick player profile. Same as the drunk guy, the guy with the loud shirt, the guy who bought in with fivers etc. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Rhu on December 09, 2007, 06:49:56 AM I'm not a good player but wouldn't be included in your 'Just a nice broad generalisation but one we all make as players'.
Off the top of my head I haven't made a decision based on a generalisation, and I would think you would lose more pots than win if you did. Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: RED-DOG on December 09, 2007, 08:51:02 AM I personally have nothing against women only comps, I just think they should allow men to play in them.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: ifm on December 09, 2007, 09:07:41 AM All the televised invitation only comps are a bit of a con anyway, at least with the WPT, EPT etc. shows folks are there on merit and not because of who they know or if they are famous movie stars etc.
Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: AlexMartin on December 09, 2007, 12:21:29 PM All the televised invitation only comps are a bit of a con anyway, at least with the WPT, EPT etc. shows folks are there on merit and not because of who they know or if they are famous movie stars etc. rotflmfao Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: The_Kid on December 10, 2007, 02:18:22 AM "Mariaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, you've gotta see her!"
hee hee Title: Re: Female Poker Players - it's important that they are pretty...... Post by: Suited_Jock on December 10, 2007, 04:10:07 PM 5 pages of a thread titled Female Poker Players
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