Title: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: BigTomatoes on December 12, 2007, 03:23:44 PM just interested to see people's general ideas on strategy towards rebuy tourneys. i know some people are maniacs and dont mind playing any 2 in order to build a stack for the rebuy period and others prefer to wait for playable hands in position and try to take advantage of others loose play. the latter is usually my approach , play pretty tight , try to see some cheap flops and try and build a big stack in the rebuy period , i dont see the point in having multiple buyins , in my opinion , just because others may be willing to throw money into the pot doesnt mean i should feel obliged to , i think Barry Greenstein said he tries to make as much profit from as little a stake possible when he plays , i generally agree . what is your style and why do you prefer to play that particular strategy in rebuys. cheers. BT. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: turny on December 12, 2007, 03:56:19 PM tomatoes i think you have hit the nail on the head with the two different ways to play a rebuy.
i tend to lean towards the first trying to accumulate chips so that i have an advantage over the tight players who may not get to many hands during the rebuy period. also its great seeing your 3h 7h beat a rocks Ks Kd and sending them on tilt trying to do the same as you when they clearly have not got it in there game lol. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: GlasgowBandit on December 12, 2007, 04:54:07 PM For me its dependant on the level I am playing at. when playing the low level r/a's I tend to play like a maniac in the $3, $5 and $10 games even to an extent $20 when I am playing $30 and $50 rebuys I tend to tighten up and try and play it more like a freezeout although I never would shy away from a 50/50 as I would sometimes do in a freezeout. It can be fun playing like a mad man and also when playing the lower levels when you do tighten up alot of players dont seem to grasp that fact and are still content to pay of your monsters.
Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: AndrewT on December 12, 2007, 04:57:01 PM Playing like a maniac gives you the best chance to win the tournament that night.
Playing tight gives you the best chance to make money in the long run. Pick whichever is most desirable for you. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: TightEnd on December 12, 2007, 05:00:06 PM My approach is a Middle ground
set a budget you are not prepared to go beyond. stick to it. Never rebuy if that rebuy will only give you 20% of the average stack at the time. (ie you double up from there and still won't be average) pick off gamblers with strong-ish hands(gambling hands if you are card dead) and let the medium term maths do the rest Always take an add-on, almost irrespective of stack Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: BigTomatoes on December 12, 2007, 05:11:50 PM Playing like a maniac gives you the best chance to win the tournament that night. could you explain why you think this andrew ? Always take an add-on, almost irrespective of stack could you explain why you always take an add on ? 1 add on is 10 BB's , obv double add on is 20 BB's , usually after the rebuy period i feel comfortable if i have 30 - 50 BB's , anymore than 50 BB's i usually wouldnt bother adding on , any less than 15 BB's i usually just have 1 add on . what is the value in a double add on or even a single add on when you have a playable stack already. my thought is that if everyone else has double buyins and you dont , they are increasing the prizepool and therefore your equity. would this be correct ? Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: AndrewT on December 12, 2007, 05:17:28 PM Playing like a maniac gives you the best chance to win the tournament that night. could you explain why you think this andrew ? Because you're continuously getting your chips in the middle. If you win, you have lots of chips. If you lose, you rebuy and are exactly where you started. Therefore you will (net) accumulate chips. Having more chips makes you more likely to win the tournament. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: BigTomatoes on December 12, 2007, 05:19:41 PM i understand the concept , just id rather play poker and let the other loose nuts get on with playing bingo. sounds like an expensive strategy as well tbh. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: AndrewT on December 12, 2007, 05:21:20 PM i understand the concept , just id rather play poker and let the other loose nuts get on with playing bingo. sounds like an expensive strategy as well tbh. It is expensive, which is why it's not profitable. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: TightEnd on December 12, 2007, 05:21:51 PM Personally I have to have a monster stack not to take an add-on
As I never do, I always take one! ;D Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: M3boy on December 12, 2007, 05:24:37 PM I prefer to add on at the start and pick off the loose goose's
Then loosen up after the rebuy. Obviously this goes wrong sometimes and the loose goose's continually bust you. If I have not managed to get a stack by say 15 minutes to go, I will set a budget of x rebuys and play any cards in big pots. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: bhoywonder on December 12, 2007, 07:34:55 PM personally i go nuts at the very 1st level....
create a lunatic image,but im prepared for a max 3 rebuys only... when and if i get a big stack.......i mean around 9-10k from a 1500 start,i just stop playing.....seriously just stop.. ( well ok AA and cheap BB's only )...If i dont get there fast and go bust then its game over for me.. then i start playing after the FO starts hopefully, maybe well above average....then take to dismantling the loose players stacks who are still hanging around....and using your new image as a rock to play looser... Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: owen1923 on December 12, 2007, 09:56:07 PM Secret to Rebuy Period 3 words really:
Maths Maths Maths Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: sharky_uk on December 12, 2007, 10:49:47 PM Secret to Rebuy Period 3 words really: Maths Maths Maths Thanks for that! Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: dino1980 on December 12, 2007, 11:58:25 PM Not sure if you're talking about live or online:
I don't think one strategy works better than anonther, it really is dependent on table conditions. Generally 'they' best way to play is the opposite of the table. Having said that if we take the stars $3r or $5r for example then I play very loose until I get a stack for a couple of reasons: a)whilst you're not playing against the average stack (only the blinds and antes) the average stack at the end of the re-buy period is around 11k so if you can get a stack that is 12k+ that's preferable and puts you in a good position to play with more freedom in the second hour. b) even if you bust on the last hand before the end of the re-buy period you can double re-buy and add-on and get a stack of 5k with blinds about to go 75-150, with is plenty playable enough. This isn't the case live in my experience. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: vegaslover on December 13, 2007, 12:12:15 AM Personally, I rarely bother to play them, I don't suit a loose gameplan and don't have a roll to play them regularly enough to get a good grasp of a sound strategy.
Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Graham C on December 13, 2007, 12:21:32 AM Dear Poker Gods, I've been playing the $10 rebuy on Stars for the last 3 hours tonight. During the rebuy I was blessed with a couple of half decent hands and managed to make the break in good shape. Since then, two hours ago, I've been dealt total crap and I would really appreciate a couple of nice hands after this break please. We're not far from the bubble and I'd appreciate a couple of double ups to get me back to average
Thank you for listening ;pokergods; ;pokergods; Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: turny on December 13, 2007, 02:22:43 AM Dear Poker Gods, I've been playing the $10 rebuy on Stars for the last 3 hours tonight. During the rebuy I was blessed with a couple of half decent hands and managed to make the break in good shape. Since then, two hours ago, I've been dealt total crap and I would really appreciate a couple of nice hands after this break please. We're not far from the bubble and I'd appreciate a couple of double ups to get me back to average Thank you for listening ;pokergods; ;pokergods; well silo did it work?? Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Snatiramas on December 13, 2007, 09:40:59 AM Strategy for rebuys
Take some money.........have some fun........enjoy myself.......10 x £10 rebuys would be no more or less than I would change at the table to play blackjack. Your strategy will depend on your motivation for playing. As previous posters have put if you are looking at it as investment and return then you will have to set some limits and guidelines. If you are looking at it as a night out then you will look at the rebuy differently along with your starting requirements for hands etc. Poker as in life comes down to motivation Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: boldie on December 13, 2007, 10:29:32 AM Dear Poker Gods, I've been playing the $10 rebuy on Stars for the last 3 hours tonight. During the rebuy I was blessed with a couple of half decent hands and managed to make the break in good shape. Since then, two hours ago, I've been dealt total crap and I would really appreciate a couple of nice hands after this break please. We're not far from the bubble and I'd appreciate a couple of double ups to get me back to average Thank you for listening ;pokergods; ;pokergods; I love that 10 rebuy tourney on stars..but it takes aaaaaaaaaaaaaages. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Graham C on December 13, 2007, 10:45:07 AM Sadly it didn't work. Managed to pick up one set of blinds before it was on the bubble. Having an empty Stars account meant that I folded AQ UTG+2 to make the money too. Then that was it. I'd have been called by someone if I played the AQ so I'm glad I sold out and took the $80, it gives me another bash anyway.
No answer to my prayers this time, but surely, if these things balance out, I'm in for a good run soon :D It does take a long time, I played for 3 and a half hours and went out in 170ish, but it's good fun, if you can get something half decent along the way. I can't believe how card dead I was, never known times like it. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Boba Fett on December 13, 2007, 01:43:42 PM Daniel Negreanu said his strategy for rebuys was to raise every pot preflop with any 2 cards and try to get to the flop against as few players as possible as he knew he would make better decisions postflop than everyone else at the table and would accumulate more chips in the long run......I think he said that just before having 33 rebuys at the wsop rebuy event though!
Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: boldie on December 13, 2007, 02:05:54 PM Daniel (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=515) Negreanu (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=515) said his strategy for rebuys was to raise every pot preflop with any 2 cards and try to get to the flop against as few players as possible as he knew he would make better decisions postflop than everyone else at the table and would accumulate more chips in the long run......I think he said that just before having 33 rebuys at the wsop rebuy event though! yes and that might work if you can spend a LOT more money than everybody else, the price of a rebuy is prohibitive for most players at your table, and if people can lay a hand down and have enough chips back if they do. This does not go for most rebuys, especially online where most of the time during the rebuy period loads of people call (3 or 4 is quite common after you raise) and if you do raise it up to an amount where you only find yourself against one or two players they're justabout pot committed..and seeing as it' a rebuy they will call you anyways during the rebuy period. if he think he could try the "I'm better than you postflop" theory in the tenner rebuy on stars he's an idiot. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2007, 02:43:26 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far......
ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2007, 02:44:22 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far...... ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. well done yesterday fellow final tabler!! Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2007, 02:47:03 PM Went close in the 35k aswell, should have made the top 5 but got caught out on the final table bubble being too aggressive and repushing on the BB with a bag of bollox
Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2007, 02:52:33 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far...... ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. well done yesterday fellow final tabler!! Whats ur screename tighty? Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Snatiramas on December 13, 2007, 03:01:22 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far...... ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. well done yesterday fellow final tabler!! Whats ur screename tighty? gobshite Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: boldie on December 13, 2007, 03:05:51 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far...... ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. well done yesterday fellow final tabler!! Whats ur screename tighty? gobshite rotflmfao Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: Woodsey on December 13, 2007, 03:06:36 PM On blonde how come some of the rebuys let you rebuy with a full stack and others you have to lose your whole stack before you rebuy? A bit strange isn't it?
Title: Re: Rebuy Tourney Strategy Post by: TightEnd on December 13, 2007, 03:07:17 PM LOL- Just started playing on the blonde rebuys in the last day or two. I've been gambling early with any 2 to set up an image, then trying to tilt the table with a load of BS talk and then sit back and wait for the nuts and for the tiltees to pay me off. Working so far...... ps If I give anyone here some grief don't take it personally LOL, its all part of the strategy. well done yesterday fellow final tabler!! Whats ur screename tighty? Natrykris |