Title: stop n go? Post by: Ironside on December 21, 2007, 07:01:43 PM this hand is one where i get caught with AK UTG missed the flop and tightend makes what seems like a stop n go
now although only 3 players get paid if i get to 6th i get an extra £200 in the league money and tightend knows this as the railbirds are telling me not get involved as i can climb the ladder i already knew this but didnt want the players to think that they could keep stealing from me and i would be laying down as there was some nice money for top 3 that i wanted to play for aswell now i made an instant call without looking at the board as i knew as soon as tighty called from bb they were going in regardless (the fact his clock nearly ran down preflop aswell made it look like he was planning a move how bad was my instant call? Game #4684526903: DTD Blonde League (ID6020348) $40+$4 - Hold'em NL (150/300) - 2007/12/20 - 22:05:17 (UK) Table "6020348 - 1" Seat 10 is the button. Seat 1: Genegenie (5805 in chips) Seat 2: anrikryst (4078 in chips) Seat 3: Ironside (6968 in chips) Seat 4: Neeko (5158 in chips) Seat 6: HOLDoFOLD (4265 in chips) Seat 7: Bluffer (15005 in chips) Seat 9: ripple14 (8213 in chips) Seat 10: BigTrules (6508 in chips) Genegenie: posts the ante 25 anrikryst: posts the ante 25 Ironside: posts the ante 25 Neeko: posts the ante 25 HOLDoFOLD: posts the ante 25 Bluffer: posts the ante 25 ripple14: posts the ante 25 BigTrules: posts the ante 25 Genegenie: posts small blind 150 anrikryst: posts big blind 300 ----- HOLE CARDS ----- dealt to Ironside [Kc Ah] Ironside: raises to 900 Neeko: folds HOLDoFOLD: folds Bluffer: folds ripple14: folds BigTrules: folds Genegenie: folds anrikryst: calls 600 ----- FLOP ----- [2d 8c Th] anrikryst: bets 3153 and is all-in Ironside: calls 3153 ----- TURN ----- [2d 8c Th][5s] ----- RIVER ----- [2d 8c Th 5s][9c] ----- SHOW DOWN ----- anrikryst: shows [4d 4c] (A Pair of Fours, Ten high) Ironside: shows [Kc Ah] (High Card Ace) anrikryst collected 8456 from Main pot ----- SUMMARY ----- Total pot 8456 Main pot 8456 Rake 0 Board [2d 8c Th 5s 9c] Seat 1: Genegenie (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 2: anrikryst (big blind) showed [4d 4c] and won (8456) with A Pair of Fours, Ten high Seat 3: Ironside showed [Kc Ah] and lost with High Card Ace Seat 4: Neeko folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 6: HOLDoFOLD folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 7: Bluffer folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 9: ripple14 folded before Flop (didn't bet) Seat 10: BigTrules (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet) Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: LuckyLloyd on December 21, 2007, 07:08:42 PM Given the described scenario, calling seems terrible here.
Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: booder on December 21, 2007, 07:09:41 PM overplaying AK..........who would have thunk it
Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: Royal Flush on December 21, 2007, 07:21:03 PM Far too many chips, he looks like a scared small pair.
Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: Longy on December 21, 2007, 09:19:20 PM Stop n go's are very often a small pair type hand. You don't have odds against a hand like this, nowhere near. This is not an +EV play, Tighty has to have alot smaller stack than this for this to be close.
Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: boldie on December 22, 2007, 10:26:43 PM Given the described scenario, calling seems terrible here. I'd agree with that..the call is pretty poor Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: ifm on December 22, 2007, 10:34:27 PM Both played the hand badly IMO
Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: TightEnd on December 22, 2007, 10:41:14 PM Both played the hand badly IMO I knew Ironside could not call unless he connected big, due to the technicalities of the points/prizes. He's also LAG and esp so with pre-flop raising range so I downplayed the chances of an overpair to this flop a little Any picture card on the flop and I probably wouldn't stop and go, as it was the texture looked ok enough for me to try it Title: Re: stop n go? Post by: TightEnd on December 22, 2007, 10:45:30 PM oh yeah, I was also the short-stack, all the more reason to try it
pushing pre, he calls with a wide range..by giving him a chance to miss the flop I think I have more F.E given the complications in the prizes |