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After Christmas, we will be opening a new child board for Hand Analysis: The Learning Centre

This will be moderated by Totalise and Longy, and thanks to them for agreeing to help


The Learning Centre is intended to be a resource for newer and inexperienced players to be able to post on PHA in the knowledge that they will get attention and advice from not only Totalsie and Longy but also other experienced players who may wish to be involved, without some of the factors that can offput new players from posting on PHA

What the board finally includes will no doubt evolve but at outset:

- Post your hands or tournaments (we hope to embed a hand replayer into the board) and a Learning Centre mod will reply on your post. No wading through twenty replies to get that nugget you need!

- Weekly strategy articles into the centre, written by experienced peers

-  Along with that, hopefully the better players will "adopt" the beginners and agree in some form to some coaching/personalised advice

- Staking. We aren't sure if staking is a good path to go down or not, it hasnt worked too well on other sites, but blonde is unique in that respect so we might give that a go.

Note: blonde, Totalise and Longy do not envisage the points above involving financial remuneration for coaches and mentors. If a relationship develops in that way, please let it do so privately. blonde Poker will not under any circumstance become involved in disputes.

Over to you, the Learning Centre will develop in conjunction with what blondes want to see on it..so fire away and give Totalise and Longy your ideas and wishes....and look out for the new board after Xmas!

There already is a HA board ???

The Learning Centre is intended to be a resource for newer and inexperienced players

something a bit different, a less intimidating environment to ask and learn



Happy Xmas Ian!

Why not just police the HA ?

We do, a lot

Sometimes it makes little difference!

Then we disagree.
How do you stop the nasty buggers on the new board if you can't on the existing one?

Happy Christmas to you and yours too.

Cheers

I looked at the "Constructive criticism" thread on PHA just now, when it took off and got "heated"...I posted over 10 times to "police" it, and I might as well have been trying to wrap up melting chocolate.

On the new board, Totalise and Longy will ensure that newbies can post in complete virtual comfort..(transfers responsibility swiftly...)

Your idea of policing is different to mine.
Good luck with the second HA board.........

lol..God help me I agree with IFM about something....I wonder if the three spirits will visit me tonight ;)

Um thats why its a child board, it is part of PHA, like sporting game is part of sports betting and discussion.


As people will be able to post and will simply get a reply (which hopefully be right, I will just let Totalise do the hard ones lol). They will not get a tonne of replys, some of which won't be the most tactful lets say.

I feel that PHA seems to be moving away from the blonde ethos and appears to be a contest of who can voice their opinion in the loudest way. This is leading to alot of Blondeites especially beginners/newbies not wanting to post in there due to fear of getting flamed. I am positive there alot of questions people want to ask but don't, due to the image PHA has.

There were two threads earlier this week that seemed to indicate that there are quite a few people, that would like to have some form of coaching/mentoring and would be interested in some form of beginners league. Through this new board, blonde is attempting to tackle this interest.

The content of the board is totally flexible and hopefully we will adapt according to what people want to see. So any criticism/ideas are welcomed.

Sigh, happy christmas everyone.

Um the child board that you refer to is for a different thing, HA is um HA.

LOLAMENTS ... "Ifm throws spanner in the works" shocker.

one day someone on blonde will come up with something that our resident miserable git is happy with ... a blonde T-Shirt and the heart felt thanks of every blonde member will be the award for that person.

Though my concern is that as the original HA is aggressive for want of a better word, what does opening another board do to address that?
I do believe people are afraid to post on HA and i do believe this needs addressing but having another board with erm the same aggressive posters is no different is it?
Does another board appear when the second one is deemed beyond help?
In a years time will there be a whole string of HA boards?
I say sort out the people ruining HA full stop.

GFY Corporate whore

If the board is to be aimed at beginners it may be an idea to have a post that outlines the information needed to provide a useful analysis of the situation. Effective stack sizes , any history or reads ect...

stake me for 10/20 plz. 100K should do. thx

PHA is generally for individual hands, hence the titlle of poker hand analysis.. the child board hopefully will be a lot different, it will be used to try and solidify the fundamentals of the less experienced posters and done in a manner that makes them feel confident to post, and try and teach them as much as possible, hence the title, learning centre. Lets face it, people dont learn much from individual hand analysis if they dont understand the concepts discussed in the advice, so rather then clutter up PHA with a multitude of different posts/discussions etc, having this split lets them both exist in harmony.




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I think it's a great idea.  I've been put off posting stuff on PHA in the past for fear of looking stupid, but I'll probably be more inclined to post on the child board.

Misread the post at first though and wondered why there would be advice on skating ???

You shouldn't put off posting there Claire, there's nothing but the level of buy in separating most of the posts in there.  Just because Flushy and others are posting about his hands in EPT's,  NL400, or whatever doesn't make it a better hand for analysis than something that you or I am likely to be playing, IMO, there's often not a lot in it.  The post at the top of the list from Tank says all you should need to see before posting.

Good work Tighty :)

Why not see how it goes before you start knocking it IFM?  It's Christmas, season of goodwill and all that?

Cheerio :)

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lol - brilliant!

Early Learning Centre?

 ;scarymoment;

booder 4 poster of the year imo

PMSL ... i think i actually wet myself a little bit at that reply ... dont go changing mate I love you the way you are xxx

nice try Colonel, but MG (Miserable git) has just PM'd me saying that one of them is a minger and several are far too old and a couple of the skirts are not of regulation length, but thanks for trying ;)

Going to watch Girls Aloud in schoolgirl uniforms this evening, luckily the kids wanted to see it so i didn't have to force them :D

Regards

Miserable git/Mardy Mustard

Camera phone fully charged ??

we expect pics tomorrow !!

I agree..the posts FLushy makes for hands in 1k buy-in tourneys aren't really different from an analysis perspective as a hand from a 20$ Sit and Go...something are the right thing to do and somethings are not.

I understand that the "constructive" thread got a bit heated..BUT from an analysis point of view it does make you think..if you are willing to put in the effort of going through page upon page of long posts and actually thinking about what people are saying.

Some people on the HA board are not very tactful BUT they present a decent case for doing something a certain way and those posts are a great learning tool.

anyways..I'm happy Totalise is on board on this one as he has not been posting enough on the HA board (in my humble opinion) and he is still one of the best guys on here to give advice on HA. (I haven't seen that many posts by Longy but I'm sure he'll do a grand job).

I would agree with a previous poster who says you need ground rules for posting on this board and you need to specify to posters what information should be included, if possible, otherwise you could end up with an awful lot of "I have AK what do I do with it?" posts and the replies would all be "That depends on the situation".
 
If you truly make this a different board from the HA board there could be some benefits..if it's just a copy of the HA board but with advice given by other people there's not really any point...and the policing of the board should be a bit tighter than what passes for policing on the HA board.

Does this mean we will be allowed to criticise on the original board now? It's a bit difficult to have a PHA board where you have to be nice given most of the time people posted a hand because they played it badly.

Helpful and polite criticism please!

Helpful always, polite not always possible.

We realise that

Have a good christmas, and be polite to your family!!!

If they open their presents like donks i will tell them so...

LOL :D

lol disappointments

after a good rummage of the wrapping paper, shape of present to "find out where they are?"

ahhhh yes, but the "feel" is always uppermost in the pre present donkament opening.

Is exchanging presents with Flushy a +EV move?

I never take the worst of it in chops, so no!

rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao  Made my morning, that did!

Delighted to hear there's going to be a new section.  I understand what the resident MG is saying, but also understand why this is being done.  Am happy to help in any way I can.   

I just think tighty worded it badly, should have just been learning centre/poker school or something, by the sounds of it pha will not be the main focus of the board.

Only problem with the other board is that succesful players are absolutely dead set that their way is best and in some cases that is true (the math just can't be disputed). But poblems of feel/psychology will always be argued over because no one can give a definitive answer that will always be best.

The school seems like a reasonable idea and bless anyone who mentors for no renumeration, it's extremely generous. I've had some good help on blonde all out of the decentness of people and i'm very grateful.

seconded

Surely that is the whole point of the PHA board..you post a hand because you already KNOW you have played it badly and are looking for advice. Critism such as "instafold" "you played that hand like a donk" "why were you even in the pot" are not exactly helpful when you are on the learning curve. A beginner wants to know WHY a certain hand is an instafold and okay maybe I shouldn't have been in the pot but I liked the hand..got into trouble and could I have played it better??

I cant help thinking IFM has a point though, the only way you are going to stop unwanted posts is by perhaps locking the threads so that only mods and maybe a few others can post but this would also limit the advise given so not ideal.

I have not been playing much poker recently as I had lost my enthusism for the game so maybe this learning centre will bring back the old spark, i shall be watching with interest.

Good luck with it guys..it sounds like a great idea  :)up

People who insult each other because they have different opinions about how a hand should be played are, IMHO, arrogant beyond belief.

Those who insult players with less ability or experience than themselves are no better than playground bullies.

Why don't you do your thing on 2+2? You could have a lot of your kind of fun on there :) I think we all got the idea that criticism doesn't work and teaches people nothing.

Heres looking forward to a new year of learning and culture:) Lets get busy blonde's, get your questions up and get the help you need now:) When does this start?

Never a truer word spoken Red.

 :)up :goodpost:

the board will be up and running shortly, I hope totalise and Longy will then get things cracking as and when questions and hands/tournament histories are posted

Eh?

I mentor 2 players locally, if i didn't criticise them when they got things wrong what would be the point off it?

As it happens i grill them over hands they play badly quite extensively until they tell me why they have played it badly, no point just giving people the answers as they will never learn the thought process.

As it happens one of them won the main event in the last Brighton festival, i would say i must be having some effect.

 It sounds pretty constructive that you are making them think for themselves and not just criticising. Thats very good, well done. Are these the folk making you money? You hit the nail on the head by saying there is no point giving people the answers, they do need think for themselves and it sounds like you are having some good success there:)  Good luck for the future:)

New board is live

Brilliant!

i agree, its very easy to be negative, its not very smart though, it stops interaction,if people feel they will be ridiculed because they post something which is very basic or not a general opinion,they just wont post, nothing wrong saying you played a hand wrong,and how you would play it,or just to disagree, thats what players want ,its what constructive advice is all about, but smartass jokes should be left for other topics

Is the advice from the learing centre one on one or do people get pms in private from the mods/experienced players there?

thanks in advance

replies will be on the thread

if any mentoring relationships develop in private, thats up to the individuals themselves

So can you please explain how this will be any different from the current PHA thread?

Im not being argumentative, I posted a couple of hands on the PHA thread a good while back and was put off by some of the comments and didnt go back...I just dont see how this will be different if anyone can post?

it will be different because when we get everything organised, we will be focusing more on concepts/discussions that members of the forum have trouble with, rather then individual hands. It will also be a place where members can mutually discuss hand histories/tournament histories. PHA is more to do with individual hands, this child board is more to do with increasing the level of education the less experienced players currently have.