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Hi folks, this is a NL low-stake cash game hand:

Full Tilt Poker Game #4675317949: Table New Brunswick - $0.10/$0.25 - No Limit Hold'em - 10:16:07 ET - 2007/12/30
Seat 1: stwolf1985 ($25)
Seat 2: CloveskaRibica ($25)
Seat 3: Benney Wong ($16.35) - CUT OFF
Seat 4: nobody70 ($12.15)
Seat 5: Carava33io ($27.55)
Seat 6: ioda100 ($5)
Seat 7: Kneppan ($20.55)
Seat 8: knightman111 ($27.30)
Seat 9: JonesinJordan ($27.30)

Carava33io has 5 seconds left to act
Carava33io posts the small blind of $0.10
ioda100 posts the big blind of $0.25
The button is in seat #4

*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Benney Wong [Ah 4h]
Kneppan folds
knightman111 folds
JonesinJordan raises to $0.85
stwolf1985 folds
CloveskaRibica folds
Benney Wong calls $0.85
nobody70 folds
Carava33io has 15 seconds left to act
Carava33io raises to $2.45
ioda100 folds
JonesinJordan calls $1.60
Benney Wong calls $1.60

*** FLOP *** [5c 3c 6s]
Carava33io has 15 seconds left to act
Carava33io bets $5
JonesinJordan raises to $24.85, and is all in
Benney Wong has 15 seconds left to act
Benney Wong has requested TIME
Benney Wong folds
Carava33io calls $19.85
JonesinJordan shows [Qs Qh]
Carava33io shows [Ks Kc]

*** TURN *** [5c 3c 6s] [7s]

*** RIVER *** [5c 3c 6s 7s] [8h]

JonesinJordan shows a pair of Queens
Carava33io shows a pair of Kings
Carava33io wins the pot ($54.45) with a pair of Kings
JonesinJordan is sitting out
JonesinJordan stands up

My question is should I have pushed on the flop with the amount of money in the pot and what I had behind?

Although not played at the table long I put EP on 10s to QQs and AK as he did not re-raise the re-raise pre-flop. I obviously put the other guy on AK, KK, QQ and at a stretch JJ (AA could be an option but as I had an A that hand is more unlikely). Pre-flop the small blinds raise of a raise is not much more and with one other caller I have to complete pre-flop with the money that's in the pot hoping to hit two-pair, a set or some sort of strong straight and flush draw.

On the flop a 2 or a 7 and I believe an Ace would have won it for me. I didn't put them on a set the way the betting went, they usually slow-roll it to death especially 3-handed.

I realise I made a bad call of the initial EP raise and cannot find a reason to justify it other than I like to mix it up, I'm in position and I don't like to play 100% the Harrington way. I just felt I made a mistake in not pushing in on the flop. By the way, the 7 coming down on the turn did not affect me posting this thread I would have done it anyway.

I welcome your comments. Cheers.

Hi Benny,

Firstly, cold calling with junk hands (which is what Ah4h is) only 75ish BB deep is bad. I mean a HUGE leak. Force yourself to stop doing it. These hands need either multiway action infront of you or deep stacks (>150BB) to be played to their full potential.

On the flop you havent hit it hard enough to continue playing. Possibly if you were to view all the action before you might be getting the right price, but with a flush draw visible, you only have 6 clean outs. Just fold.

you cannot push on the flop, you're last to act and the bet in front of you is more than you have back, you can only call off all your stack with nothing or pass.

easy pass

Ok a few things.
First of all, it would be much better if you didn't post results up and just asked what your move should be. It makes posters too results orientated.
Secondly, your better off buying in for full, if you just lost previous hand and forget to top up then fair enough.
As for hand itself, fold to raise and to re-raise pf. A4s is a really useless hand and you simply do not have the impled odds to make this call profitable. Saying things like I mix it up is just another way of saying I like to occasionally play hands really badly. This may sound harsh but if you try to justify stuff like this in such a way you will continue to make these mistakes. You have to cut this out of your game.
On the flop itself. It's a call  giving your range as your getting 2-1

Board: 5c 3c 6s
Dead: 

   equity    win    tie          pots won    pots tied   
Hand 0:    34.237%     33.32%    00.92%            169374         4681.33   { Ah4h }
Hand 1:    26.143%     21.85%    04.29%            111078        21831.33   { QhQs, JJ-TT, AKs, AKo }
Hand 2:    39.620%     35.33%    04.29%            179593        21831.33   { AA, KcKs, QQ-JJ, AKs, AKo }


But, flop is not the important point as it's fairly marginal. Pf is where you should really focus your attention.

:goodpost: ;iagree;

Thanks guys, I knew I'd played it bad pre-flop and just wanted to confirm if most people call the all-in on the flop.