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Title: What to do... What to do... Post by: NumptyITB on December 30, 2007, 08:55:39 PM Final table of a satellite to a £100 deep stack freezeout. Top 2 get a ticket.
40 Entrants. Last 8 left.. Blinds are 20 minutes and on level 800-1600. Chip leader has approx 25,000 chips. you are sitting first to act, with 15,500 chips (more than the average at the table at the time).. Aspades Js You raise to 4,500 total. Fold Fold Fold. Next player on cut off thinks about it, and then pushes in for 15,000 total. This player has been playing as a bit of a rock through the tournament. And, coincidently, during conversation before the hand, said he only plays AK or Aces out of the blinds! Button Folds. Small Blind Folds. Big Blind Folds. The ''All in'er'' stares at you waiting for your action... Your action? Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: gatso on December 30, 2007, 09:06:05 PM firstly I probably would've pushed AJ here, gotta get top 2 so no point putting in a standard raise and then considering the pass with your stack size.
and as played I'm calling for the same reason unless you really have never seen him play anything other than AK and AA Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: NumptyITB on December 30, 2007, 10:32:25 PM btw... when asking this question, i am not actually the player of AJ, i am the player that made the all in, i am just wondering what others thought of his play
Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: gatso on December 30, 2007, 10:41:11 PM btw... when asking this question, i am not actually the player of AJ, i am the player that made the all in, i am just wondering what others thought of his play I think you should stop staring at other players, it's not nice. So, out of interest, what would your move have been if AJ player pushed AI rather than the smaller raise? Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: NumptyITB on December 30, 2007, 10:44:45 PM well, due to the poor standard of the tournament that had been noticed for the duration, it could have been with absolutly anything!!
So i would have immediatly pushed, without even thinking Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: Longy on December 31, 2007, 01:07:14 AM With Aspades Js shoving preflop is fine and is inexploitable.
I think it is closer than most people think when it gets back to us, if a rock has shoved over us, 10500 to win 22400. So about 30% equity needed in the pot. --- 92,464,416 games 0.005 secs 18,492,883,200 games/sec Board: Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 33.418% 32.15% 01.27% 29729973 1170177.00 { AsJs } Hand 1: 66.582% 65.32% 01.27% 60394089 1170177.00 { 99+, AQs+, AQo+ } --- Looks like you have to up against a super rock to pass this, its close, no doubt. Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: The_Diamond on December 31, 2007, 04:34:56 AM I was going to say shove but then saw that you have an above average stack close to the money so I would fold preflop. Shoving with AJ from this position is probably only a break even play in terms of chip equity, and negative equity if the table is playing very tight. I'd probably shove 2 seats closer to the button though.
Making a standard raise when you have 10BBs or less is just silly. You should always just shove or pass there. Title: Re: What to do... What to do... Post by: turny on January 03, 2008, 11:50:17 PM I was going to say shove but then saw that you have an above average stack close to the money so I would fold preflop. Shoving with AJ from this position is probably only a break even play in terms of chip equity, and negative equity if the table is playing very tight. I'd probably shove 2 seats closer to the button though. Making a standard raise when you have 10BBs or less is just silly. You should always just shove or pass there. hes far from close to the money, only two pay |