Title: Cash Game TV Post by: Ismene on January 03, 2008, 01:10:34 PM Hey chaps - wondering If i could pick some of your brains...
Cash is not a forte of mine - hence the fact that you have never seen me play it - however - all that is about to change... Or at least that is my NY resolution - we'll see.... Bar the obvious practice / books etc I was wondering which cash shows you would reccomend watching and why as imitation is a pretty good learning step for me prior to adding a little something extra into the mix... Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2008, 01:21:06 PM I'd say that the cash games you see on telly bear little resemblance to the cash games I play (mostly online, but also live).
They're heavily edited, and a lot of the 'clever' plays are wasted at the low levels I play. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: DaveShoelace on January 03, 2008, 01:23:45 PM The show on challenge at the moment 'Cash Poker' is probably better than high stakes poker for a new player - but both of them are at the highest level of the game and in no way ideal.
Much better off getting your hands on some cardrunners or pokerxfactor videos, very good indeed for all levels. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: Ismene on January 03, 2008, 02:19:17 PM OK - cheers - will defo try that pkrfactor idea.
But what should i look out for - and by that I mean what would you class as the most important element in Cash TV? I just need to get my head around it and am far more a visual learner than from books - because i will remember the words - where they are on a page - but not necessarily ascertain the psychological implications it has for the opponent. OK - lets put it another way - if you were making a cash TV show - what would you make sure that you included? Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: NumptyITB on January 03, 2008, 02:26:18 PM Card's.
Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: Ironside on January 03, 2008, 02:27:57 PM chips
Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: AndrewT on January 03, 2008, 02:30:13 PM OK - lets put it another way - if you were making a cash TV show - what would you make sure that you included? The truth outs at last. :) The things which makes cash watchable are a) deep stacks - you get to see play through the streets instead of the interminable all-in pre-flop stuff you get in most televised tournament poker and b) people aren't generally forced into standard plays through situational reasons - there are fewer 'no brainer' situations - so they properly have to think about stuff. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: Bongo on January 03, 2008, 02:37:21 PM If you're asking what would make a good cash game tv show (off the top of my head):
Mic the players up and let them chat, without the commentators interrupting too much, the majority of the time the things they are saying are far more interesting. Deep stacks - allow play on all streets and people to play varying styles, rather than the all in nature of a lot of TV tournaments. More as I think of them. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: DaveShoelace on January 03, 2008, 03:38:08 PM A good cash TV show would have:
At least one very very bad player Gambling side games Deep stacks I think using actual cash, rather than chips, would emphasise a thing or two A few characters People want to see some crazy stuff in a cash game. Thus it is better filmed in a 'home game' type environment. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: kinboshi on January 03, 2008, 03:45:52 PM Is it being planned to be an educational programme - or more for entertainment? The two are very different.
If it's to be educational, I'd make sure you show every hand in a session. Title: Re: Cash Game TV Post by: AndrewT on January 03, 2008, 04:26:33 PM A good cash TV show would have: At least one very very bad player Gambling side games Deep stacks I think using actual cash, rather than chips, would emphasise a thing or two A few characters People want to see some crazy stuff in a cash game. Thus it is better filmed in a 'home game' type environment. As long as the cash is kept in bricks and not broken up. The Poker Den crap that Barry Hearn does seems to be 85% 'watching people count money'. |