Title: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: UpTheMariners on January 08, 2008, 03:16:12 AM FullTiltPoker Game #4777533354: Table Artie (6 max) - $2/$4 - No Limit Hold'em - 20:55:42 ET - 2008/01/07
Seat 1: sqbull ($347.20) Seat 2: hockey3535 ($263.50) Seat 3: NeverOnADraw ($417.60) Seat 4: dglenn59 ($406) Seat 5: LzyScmbg ($540.45) Seat 6: UpTheMariners ($684.75) hockey3535 posts the small blind of $2 NeverOnADraw posts the big blind of $4 The button is in seat #1 *** HOLE CARDS *** Dealt to UpTheMariners [Aspades Kd] dglenn59 raises to $14 LzyScmbg folds UpTheMariners raises to $48 sqbull folds hockey3535 calls $46 NeverOnADraw folds dglenn59 calls $34 *** FLOP *** [2h Qs 9s] hockey3535 checks dglenn59 checks UpTheMariners checks *** TURN *** [2h Qs 9s] [7s] hockey3535 checks dglenn59 bets $60 UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act UpTheMariners calls $60 hockey3535 raises to $215.50, and is all in dglenn59 folds UpTheMariners has 15 seconds left to act UpTheMariners has requested TIME UpTheMariners calls $155.50 good call or bad call ive got the guy on possibly aq? Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: jakally on January 08, 2008, 08:12:26 AM I am struggling to understand the all-in players play as he has cold called a 3 bet for a 5th of his stack. As he has less than the full buy in he is probably a weak player so his range is probably quite wide. Worst case you still have outs, but it is probably a marginal call in terms of pot odds, and more likely is a losing play (although not by much). Against AQ/KQ you are getting 3 to 1 on a 3 to 1 ish call. QQ and 99 are not impossible, which mean you are a bigger dog, and similarly against a made flush (KsJs / JsTs). Probably a fold but a call isn't a disaster. Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: Longy on January 08, 2008, 01:12:39 PM Pot odds question, 155 to win 485.50. So we need about 24%.
1,892 games 0.015 secs 126,133 games/sec Board: 2h Qs 9s 7s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 24.419% 21.56% 02.85% 408 54.00 { AsKd } Hand 1: 75.581% 72.73% 02.85% 1376 54.00 { QQ+, 99, 77, 22, AQs, KQs, JsTs, Ts8s, 6s5s, 5s4s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AQo, KQo } Looks close. Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: AlexMartin on January 08, 2008, 01:21:05 PM Pot odds question, 155 to win 485.50. So we need about 24%. 1,892 games 0.015 secs 126,133 games/sec Board: 2h Qs 9s 7s Dead: equity win tie pots won pots tied Hand 0: 24.419% 21.56% 02.85% 408 54.00 { AsKd } Hand 1: 75.581% 72.73% 02.85% 1376 54.00 { QQ+, 99, 77, 22, AQs, KQs, JsTs, Ts8s, 6s5s, 5s4s, AcKs, AdKs, AhKs, AQo, KQo } Looks close. But not close enough. Tweak that range a little too methinks. Fold i think, i doubt your A or K is live. Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: Longy on January 08, 2008, 01:37:39 PM What would you take out of that range Alex?I haven't put in a ridic bluff with air or anything.
Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: AlexMartin on January 08, 2008, 01:45:37 PM What would you take out of that range Alex?I haven't put in a ridic bluff with air or anything. Deffo not ridic range and pretty sound most of the time. Lots of info here though. Villain has C/R two oppos in a 3bet pot preflop. I think we can rule out XKs holdings. fwiw Villain has totally outplayed table here. Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: UpTheMariners on January 08, 2008, 02:20:29 PM i normally wait for 30 hands before my pahud stats come up but i have noticed him being quite active. ive just checked now and ive played 30 hands with the villian and there running at 50/14/1.5.
Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: AlexMartin on January 08, 2008, 02:49:34 PM i normally wait for 30 hands before my pahud stats come up but i have noticed him being quite active. ive just checked now and ive played 30 hands with the villian and there running at 50/14/1.5. Wow, ok he has a flush, fold. Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: UpTheMariners on January 08, 2008, 02:53:34 PM The villain had Kc Kh giving me a 27% chance of winning.
Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: AlexMartin on January 08, 2008, 02:57:40 PM The villain had Kc Kh giving me a 27% chance of winning. Jesus christ, nice table selection Dan.Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: Longy on January 08, 2008, 03:19:05 PM i normally wait for 30 hands before my pahud stats come up but i have noticed him being quite active. ive just checked now and ive played 30 hands with the villian and there running at 50/14/1.5. Wow, ok he has a flush, fold. This is something I should mention the other day in my PT post. 1.5 aggression factor for a maniac (50/14) pre is actually relatively aggressive. If you think about it he is seeing a flop with 50% of his hands alot of these will make weak/marginal postflop hands. Alot of top pairs, no kicker, middle pairs which are often better to try and pot control by calling with. Unlike tight players who make alot of big hands more of their range is made up of hand that make overpairs, top pair top kicker type hands that are more likely to bet or raise. These factors affect aggression factor a great deal. Also alot of the time that don't have the emphasis in the hand and will be doing less cbetting and more calling on the flop. Make sense? Title: Re: Good Call Bad Call? Post by: UpTheMariners on January 08, 2008, 07:29:05 PM Quote from: [url=http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198 Alex[/url] Martin (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=1198) link=topic=30288.msg622507#msg622507 date=1199804260] The villain had Kc Kh giving me a 27% chance of winning. Jesus christ, nice table selection Dan.give me resizable tables and a time bank and im there!! |