blonde poker forum

Breaking news on SSN

What an absolute shambles of a club!

Only a matter of time.  The club seems cursed.

Who's going to be their next manager; McClaren, Capello ?

Or has Shearer's whispering campaign borne fruit ?

LOLOLOL

They deserve nothing, sure he wasn't doing well, but the club needs stability not more change (and I should know!)


costs them £50m too when they pay off his army of psytchologists, fitness trainers and the rest

Must be big Al?

crazy, one of the best managers in the country and they gave him 4 competitive months. OK some of the defenders he bought looked a bit iffy and Alan Smith seems to have been getting away with it for years now but what did Newcastle expect? A top 5 league position?

Well Newcastle have shot themselves in the foot imo, short termism like this will get you nowhere.

As for Alan Sherear hahahaha, the guy has NO managerial experience at all, what the hell makes anyone think that he has the experience nevermind the ability to manage a top division club.

Shearer? surely not....still some Geordie hand wringing when they get drawn into the bottom six would be good sport for neutrals

arhh the turmoil,it's such good fun being a mag.......getting my cv ready

Fucking Mental....

well i hope they give it to shearer and go down then who will all them dumb Geordie fans shout for next BRAMBLE BRAMBLE BRAMBLE

note to Sheff Utd ....this is a big chance to get a top manager in instead of someone that has made a living as a manager on the fact he was England captain for years.

note to Newcastle, give us all a real laugh and recruit Bryan Robson. Or Peter Reid.

Jesus, these fans deserve McLaren as their next manager, then Brian Robson after that, then whoever is the next crap manager after that..

Newcastle Fans.. best fans in the world, my arse... Support your manager before you want to call yourselfs the best fans in the world.. Sure things were not good, but time was needed, 4 months, not that i want him at Liverpool but he was a decent enough manager for Newcastle..

Who is next for the Newcastle Job.. ??? Who would want it... ??

please not mclaren!!c'mon god i've been a good boy this year,i know its only the 9th but i've been good.

Quite the next club who get Allardyce as their manager should consider themselves lucky. He is a good manager and performed near miracles during his time at Bolton.

Most the posts on this thread are WAY off the mark. Stupid fans this, get what they deserve that. You're basising your opinions on weeks of absolute shite written in London based papers.

Yes there are people who want Shearer and seem to think the sun shines out of his arse but in terms of backing from actual fans Sam probably had a larger % backing than Rafa at Liverpool.

He has not been sacked on the back off a fans campain to oust him. Not at all. There was unrest against Portsmouth, and chants of you don't know what your doing against Liverpool (again very small percentage and mainly in relation to crazy subs during the game). Since then there has been a renewed effort to united and get behind the manager and the team. I wasn't at Stoke but you could see on the tele that again at least 70% were still there appaulding the manager off.

Who knows whats next. Its never simple, but I'd never change it. Newcastle united will never be defeated.

Except Saturday afternoons ;)

why has he been sacked then? after 4 months?

 rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao rotflmfao

my thoughts are directed at the guy in charge not the fans, he seems more interested in being seen as a 'fans' man than a Chariman

agreed

sitting in the freezing cold in a Newcastle shirt two sizes too small for him and sitting amongst the fans...ugh, might appeal to the Newcastle fans but doesn't create much of a professional impression   

You'd earn a lot of money right now if you knew the answer to that. Simply the owner must have someone like up, most probably that certain someone. On the day the new regime came in they made it pretty clear he wasn't their appointment, but that shouldn't have been a factor.

So many questions like why now? A week into a month long transfer window doesn't make any sense at all.

If I wasn't a Newcastle fan I'd probably be:

We will be back.

I was at stamford bridge a couple of weeks ago when we lost near the end to a terrible decsion by the linesman,nothing but support the team,no dissent towards the manager.I really think the press had a lot to do with the "sacking" stirring at every oppurtunity.

It will happen to Benitez soon too


(there, get the Liverpool lads on the thread..they think Benitez will be there til he retires!, I think he'll be gone by the end of the season at the latest)

Mike Ashley is not the Chairman. He has no direct involvement with the running of the club. LOL. Well thats the party line!

We all know Mike Ashley is after the Spurs job - just needs to sort out a deal with his his mates on the Spurs boardand find a buyer for Newcastle.  He almost had one in the summer and with Enic a willing seller at the right price i am sure a deal will be done.

I actually think Newcastle have done the right thing.  Big Sam is not a good manager and its a shocking indictment of our managers that him and Maclaren have failed so miserably.  They are both inept with no idea for flair, pace, skill and tactics.  Sam especially is a throwback to the Howard Wilkinson way and he isnt clever enough to adapt.

I like Newcastle and want to see them do well - they now need to find a good foreign coach (maybe working with Shearer who can add some englishness to the management team) and stick with him.  Hindsight is a wonderful thing but i promise i was telling everyone preseason that Sven would do a good job at City.  face it guys English managers are shocking and tactically inept and there is no evidence of this changing.  I would take a top quality foreign coach every day of the week over any of the mediocre English guys out there.

Ashley's the money....of course he runs it!

Wow thought there was a lot of hate for newcastle on here but i just visited the f365 forum and its gone insane,although the choice of ant and dec as the new joint managers did make me laugh.

Who cares what nationality the coach or players are as long as they are good etc..?

I can envisage Jol with Shearer as his assistant.

Comedy post of the year so far...

I agree.

• Easily manipulated by the red top media

good shout

anyone saw kevin keegan lately?

That i cant see happening Nem.

Mike Ashley and Paul Kemsley ae best mates (Kemsley worked for him as a kid and Ashley is one of his backers now) and Kemsley was one of the driving forces to get Jol out of spurs having 'secret' meetings with Ramos.  Cant see his best mate then taking Jol on.

Though stranger things have happened!

Very true.

Your point is a valid one, who will they get in?








































Stuart Pearce is out of work!

Kemsley is the biggest shister around. Nasty pieace of shit.

I just dont get why hes gone if the majority of the fans wanted him there, surly he would still be there?

Steve McClaren with Shearer.

Redknapp will not leave Pompey - IMO.

Steve McClaren would be interesting. I don't think I'd renew my season ticket if that happened, and I'm far more open and rational than the average Newcastle fan.

I had hoped that the spped of the dismissal meant there was someone lined up. It appears there isn't.

Bring back the plc!!!

I would have done well at Man City with all the money he's spent.
Big Sam has actually spent very little and was sat mid table. They had no chance of going down so they should have stuck with him and seen how he started next season.

I don't think Benitez will be there longer than 12-18 months, but it wont be the fans forcing him out, its the owners...

It's newcastle for crying out loud.they have been a joke of a club since they sacked Sir Bobby...they will always bugger things up and never geta  good result again.

Redknapp is trading at odds-on on BF to be their next manager, seems incredibly short to me.

Apparently it's not going to be Harry.  Laid for a small stake just in case.  Harry has said he's happy down South.

Lots of money on the go at the moment just after the 5 Live article.  I laid at 2.08, fingers crossed Harry doesn't change his mind!

FYP

Or doesnt do the same as last time and let all his mates win a load on BF by going on Sky to say he would deffo not be going back to Portsmouth the day before he did just that??

Allegedly of course.

Fixed your post..Redknapp is indeed a crook...and he can sue me for saying that if he wants.

Bugger you may be right.  Went from my 2.08 to 2.4, then hovered at 2.3, now it's down to 1.8!!!

Going to bottle it and green out if it goes back up.

you are right mate.

Anyone remember Redknapps' coup on the "time of first throw in" market when at West Ham?

Quality stuff.

the same mates cleaned up on that too Tighty. Paul Kitson'doesnt know the first thing about gambling' said Harry....no but i bet he knows a few that do eh??

Taken from BBC football website ... and quite staggeringly accurate IMO.

One thing, however, remains consistent. Namely the fault-line of shambolic self-destruction that runs straight through the middle of St James' Park and has contributed to almost 40 years without a major trophy.

And it has cracked the club wide open again with the departure of Allardyce after only 24 games and eight months, no time to prove a case for or against any manager.

But this is Newcastle and only the rules of the madhouse apply.

Newcastle is the club that loves to parade itself as big time. You can hear it now. Look at all those fans. Look at the beautiful stadium.

The trouble is that the finest shop window in the world is no use when the goods at the back are shoddy and almost beyond repair. In terms of football success, Newcastle are strictly small-time and there is no sign of that changing any time soon.

Ive laid him also. I just cant see it happening. But that said I am on tilt and a lot of money has traded on this!!!!!!

Mark Hughes and Harry Redknapp are not the types of names that, one, could justify this circus, and two, can put back together the broken mess that is Newcastle by making it United. I'm a worried man. Bookies aren't often wrong but having said that the offer of 66-1 for Bobby Robson (after seeing him on SPOTY) and 100-1 on Ruud (who would most probably get lynched!) seem to be a bit tight.

For what its worth i like Redknap's record and persona, not as convinced by Hughes. We probably don't quite have the right to get one, but I just thing we need a manager who has won the top stuff so that the appointment can't be questioned, on that basis Lippi is streets ahead (apart from the lack of English!)

From the out of work managers I think i'd prefer Hoddle over Jol - and perhaps it would open the door for Shearer as a coach or something.

Hoddle!!!!!


lol oh please yes!!!!


tell you what, nothing sums up the delusion of the ranka nd file fans more than when asked "who d'ya want?" a lot say Lippi or Mourinho

repeat after me: We are not as big a club as we think we are x50

Isn't that what in effect I said above?

Financial power wise we are large, and in a fairly big second tier in europe, behind a top tier of probably only 3 or 4 clubs. Depends what big managers look for in assessing a job. I imagine 7 managers in 10 years or whatever isn't that high on the list.

lol@ Hoddle.

Just how bad have you had to have been in a previous life to be a Newcastle Utd manager in the next?

If Tottenham can get a Ramos and City an Eriksson why cant Newcastle get a big name?

I dont get why there is so much Newcastle baiting across this and other forums.  Seem so many enjoy seeing them muck up.

As i said before - i like Newcastle as a team a city and the supporters.  I think a lot of it is jealousy from 2nd tier teams but i dont think the top 4 take pleasure in seeing them in a mess. 

Newcastle's problem is that they are badly run.  For years they were run by the crooks Hall and Shepherd who literally raped the club for millions for their own benefit.  They got rid of that legacy only to be replaced by an absolute nutter who the City think is a joke and his company has seen millions wiped off since the floatation but obviously has a great deal of personal wealth and wants a hobby to keep up with his mates.

I think its sad and that it all works out - coz id love to see newcastle do well (altho obv not at arsenal's expense!)

My god no comment about a newspaper.

I said I'd prefer Hoddle out of the out of work managers (and probably those that are plausable), not that I wanted him!!

Tottenham = London

Man City = Manchester

Newcastle = Someplace near Scotland

This is what any top player thinks as well.

Well since my money is now down, I can reveal that El Tel Venables is the next Newcastle manager. 

Newcastle making official approach to Portsmouth for Harry in the morning...

who said harry was staying?!?!

That would be a good signing for sure. The one thing that holds true in quite a few next manager markets is that when clubs replace managers they tend to take someone opposite to the manager they just sacked. So with Aallardyce getting stick for his long ball tactics there is a good chance they want someone that has a reputation for playing good attacking football.

Harry did.

That's my bet lost then ;) 

whilst on the foreign manager theme, what would be wrong with a Ranieri, Houllier or a Van Gaal?

Are they too big a name for Newcastle or are the first 2 deemed to be Premiership failures.

personally i think all 3 are excellent managers and better than most about.  Also big foreign managers can attract big players.

I think Redknapp is wrong for Newcastle.  hes too much a dodgy wheeler dealer, looking for bargains and cheap african imports.  That works at West ham and Portsmouth but does that have to be the way at Newcastle?

nothing wrong with ranieri, houllier, van gaal, lippi, mourinho etc etc

Any of those would be good, if they'd go

Mourinho would be good, just to see if he is that 'Special' but I believe they'd have to pay Chelsea loads of cash to get him which would  probably will rule him out being offered it.

Why would they have to pay Chelsea Silo?

Geo

It was apparently in the contract or terms of him leaving that he can't accept another role (in the Premiership?) until the end of the season. 

The special one cant work in the premiership until the summer, part of the deal or somthing..


They would all be fine in my opinion, but Newcastle have got to give the manager time, with the transfer window the way it is, it takes about 18 months IMO for a manager to get the players that he wants.

Look at United, and Arsenal their long term success is not about the team, its about the managers, that why I hope to god they dont get rid of Raffa, yes he is Barmy sometimes, but other than the special one, who would you want. ???

Easy, Glenn Hoddle


Next question

OK mate, thought for a minute you had been holed up in a dark room sowewhere - lol

Great win BTW although I had as much fun reading the old thread of your 1st win.

Geo

bookies now make Harry Redknapp 1/3 fav. newcastles first choice, i would be sick if i was a portsmouth supporter and newcastle pinched him. great manager

for me Mourinho is too big a name for the managers job.  Theres only about 6 jobs in the world he'd take.

Ranieri and Houllier are much more achievable and i have been impressed with them since they left chelsea and liverpool respectively.

I repeat that i think Redknapp is not the right answer...A top quality foreign coach is the way forward.  They do exist, we had not heard much about Benitez, Mourinho and Ramos say 1 year before they took the job so do we know who the up and coming managers are of a 2nd tier team, like Porto, Sevilla or Valencia.?

Harry Redknapp has cancelled his regular Friday news conference.

Is the writing on the wall????

Why would anyone want to manage Newcastle? apart from the fact you will be 4m richer when sacked after 6months :)

answered your own question. and if by some fluke the fans take to you you become a god

Almost worth screwing it up on purpose....

good decision to get rid of him sooner rather than later, though i cant see what harry is going to do. louis van gaal, dick advocatt, jose morinho or guss hiddink should be thier targets.

but what are those 4 going to do?..It's newcastle..the board will make a hash of it anyways and the fans will still think they are a big club. It's a second rate premierleague club at best and unless the board changes the club will stay second rate.

didnt the board change in the summer?

Albeit from crooks to a nutter who knows diddly squat about football...

FFS. What is everyone problem with this Newcastle fans think they are a big club stuff?  Its all relative. There are approx 100 professional football clubs in the country. Over a reasonable period of recent history Newcastle are in the top 5% of those. (league performance, cup runs, turnover, big names, attendances) You could expand it across Europe and they'd still be in a similar sort of bracket. Obviously compared to a Man United turnover we're not close, and in terms of honours miles behind, but they aren't the benchmark for being big, they are the benchmark for being the best.  Don't get weighed down in labels, just look rationally at ALL of the measures of a football club.  Ask a former giant like Notts Forrest, a former top league team like Southampton or Leeds, Leicester or Coventry, and ask them what they would consider success. Being a consistant member of the PL is not only an necessity its an achievement in its own right.

I don't know any Newcastle fan that expects to win the league, or in fact expects to win anything. I know a lot who expect to compete, meaning beating the best at at home occasionally, putting in passionate performances, and getting a few draws against them away.

Football has changed massively in the last 5 years. Man U, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool have all been in the right place at the right time (a few of those have pretty much always been there). The point being that its going to be extremely difficult for any club other than one of those four to win a major trophy so how can you criticise clubs outside of those for not winning trophies. For the second rate teams in the PL (which isn't actually a derogatory term, its just fact) the best chance is probably the UEFA cup or a favourable draw in the League cup). It could be years until anyone breaks that four, even with massive investment.

As for the board - I remember the chants to oust Gordon McKeeg when I was a kid. The News of the World brothel stuff. The board has always been a big issue with Newcastle in my lifetime (Sir John Hall apart - who I think someone actually labeled as a crook earlier). However the fact is there really is no board anymore. There is an owner who wants to see some entertainment for his 250m, and probably correctly has decided that that wasn't going to happen under BSA, obviously the timing of it is poor but what can you do, its his name on the door.

Again some sensationalist media coverage and people perceptions don't actually accurately reflect reality.

Whoever gets the job, if they get the current crop playing their natural attacking game and showing passion and pride they will be backed all the way - and with the talent that is in the squad we'll be back on the right track soon enough.

I think everyone knows Benitez will go at some stage but as I said on another thread not because of footballing reasons or because the fans dont want him.

Dont really see the big deal wih Big Sam getting sacked - he's the most overrated manager in football.

Other managers have had a similar budget and done much better in a shorter space of time. The Big Sam myth is in tatters.

lol..yeah because Bolton is doing soo well without him and Newcastle is indeed in big big trouble. Get out of here. Big Sam is a good manager and every manager needs time. It's endemic of the sickness that is Newcastle Utd that he couldn't do anything with those guys but, given time, he would have got them moving up the table.

What?

His managerial record until he took over Newcastle was faultless. Firstly Blackpool where he turned from a nothing side struggling in the lower reaches of the football league, who very nearly got into the 2nd tier for the first time in a generation under him. Then took Bolton from the middle of todays championship to a side that were regular top half team in the Premiership, something that Bolton had virtually never been, save for a years in the 50's.

Despite having a rep as an old fashioned football person, he infact was very innovative and took on many new innovations in football way before his colleagues.

I sense you just don't like the fact that his teams didn't play the prettiest football but alas supporters of provincial clubs can't afford the luxury of having our team play creative attacking football to win games. There is no myth.

 :goodpost: ;iagree;

Redknapp has no track record of winning major trophies, but then again neither have Newcastle.

why noone wants to go to Newcastle..not even Redknapp.

Part 2 of the video makes it quite clear

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-J9ZpQYW8s

WTG redknapp

i am now £60 green no matter who takes the job

and heavy green on a couple of others like keegan jol and hughes

so come on newcastle appoint someone i dont care who

ffs it could even be colchester kev

oh wait maybe not he os enhoying life on the south coast

I had a chat with Harry, and I told him that I went to the GUKPT in newcastle .... "the ground is great, the weather is shit, the taxi drivers are pig ignorant, fat birds wear fk all in the winter, and the supporters are worse than Spurs fans when it comes to delusions of grandeur... although spurs have actually won a few trophies in living memory" .. I said.


Harry thanked me for the advice and then handed me a brown envelope stuffed with £50 notes ...
we agreed that we would both be staying on the south coast and not relocating to the Toon.

Like who?

The reason I'm asking is because off the top of my head I can't think of any in recent times.  He took Bolton from the Championship and made them a top 10 side in the Premiership that is fact not myth.

I dont think Nigel Pearson will be getting the job!!

LOL it was all going soooooooooo well until the second half started.

Spurs lost to Chelsea ... standard .

Birmingham got a point at the Library ... well played the brummies.

Wow....I wrote of my cash on this little punt when Betfair had Harry trading at 1.3 !!!

£5 Million traded on this just with Betfair.....

The worlds gambling mad

And no idea who is next in the running for the job

any market that has redknapp involved willl trade millions on

the saints job the pompey job both traded more on betfair than any other i can remember

and you also know there will be violent swings in the betting on redknapp

wouldnt surprise me if on monday he changes his mind again and the price gets back to odds on

looks like keegan is now the new favourite

he has come in from 50.0 earlier today to 6.0

van gaal  has dropped from 300 to 50s

i got +6000£ on him
-25 the field

im thinking 10s or below worth a lay? i really aint sure any advice if his price falls dramatically.

all it needs is a ssn breaking news story and the market turns on its head

I think he's tactically lacking, and average in the transfer market bar a couple of signings.

Unlike Moyes or Hughes who had bruising teams when they started but who now play decent football - Big Sam never got past the "kick the opposition" tactics he started with.

He's never tried to develop into a footballing side like Everton or Blackburn have recently.

All he did at Newcastle was try to make them a bigger version of Bolton because he's, in my opinion, overrated.

He's taken clubs as far as he can using his style - but he'll never go further.

I'm talking about what he spent at Newcastle.

You cant think of any manager who's spent £25 million odd and had 24 games to do better than Newcastle have so far this season?

Ok I assumed you were referring to his time at Bolton.  What I will say is to give a guy who has brought success to his previous clubs only 24games to prove his worth is a joke. 

I thought it was nice to see Newcastle giving MAnU a run for their money now that Big Sam has gone :)

Based on the premise that having got rid of a "long ball" merchant they will now go for the opposite and appoint a "footballing" manager who subscribes to "the beautiful game" I've dabbled on Glen Hoddle in the next manager market.

I know he's got his foibles, but who hasn't ? They wanted Redknapp after all.

Anyhow 50/1 seemed like a decent price to me until he drifted out to 85/1  ;nemesis; back in to 50/1 again now

I just want football to be fun again.

I think it'll be Houllier now.

Good appointment i reckon. Never took Liverpool to the top but had a lot of success and Rafa is struggling to make the final step that Houllier was sacked for being unable to make.

Why, its a thread about Newcastle yet you still have to make reference to Raffa getting the sack..  ;sleep;

Just showing that the job Houllier did at Liverpool was actually a good one even though he was sacked. keep up.

I thought that Houllier's record in the transfer market was pretty much atrocious at Liverpool.

If Newcastle do appoint him I would predict another disaster.

Houllier has just been matched @11(10/1) on BF, he was a 2/1 shot half an hour ago.

Methinks something is afoot.......

Only towards the end of his reign. Early on he got it right and was a successful manager.

Didier Deschamps - intriguing.
Can't knock his playing career or management career to date (all be it reasonably short). He should have the pull to bring top players, and the connections to not waste too much money. Now just see if this one actually wants it!!

agreed..would not be a bad manager I think

Unless he manages to move Newcastle closer to London or Manchester top players really aren't going to be that interested. Newcastle will still have to pay over the odds for mediocre players.

deschamps was 100 down to 2.5 up to 6.5 in half an hour last night. mentel market, love it!!!!

anyway van gaal dribbling in to 33-1 shot, cmon louis

players will go anywhere there is money. they are fickle like that....

Absolute top players won't. If East Stirling got taken over by a billionaire tomorrow and offered Christiano Ronaldo £200,000 a week, he wouldn't join them.

Money is important to a point, but the best players want to be at the best clubs. Players who are not quite the best are more likely to be totally mercenary. These are the ones Newcastle will end up with.

Kevin Keegan has been announced as the 'new' Newcastle manager.

no surprise

goodluck with keegan..I can't see this going well. if he appoints shearer as his nr2 than he gets the job for a year..if not he'll be out halfway through next season. I'd hate to be a newcastle supporter right now, knowing the board got it wrong again and only went with the populist appointment.

wow this should be interesting! Shearer as number 2?

Cool, good to have Kev back in football :)

I will love it if at some point in the season he said I wlll love it

Braehead Soccer School in Scotland to Newcastle Manager  rotflmfao

I think Keegan has taken Newcastle as far as he can

He should go now.

:D

NEVER go back.

LOL

If only I had followed your advice, over many years.



As to Keegan...LOLOL

I wish him well, hope it works,  but surely this is what happens whn you get a fan running a football club?

BTW - don't put 'Keegan' into Google image search if you're at work...

 rotflmfao


Less than a year before he throws the towel in

Regards

M

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr


i thought there was a few more weeks in this market i set a lay for £40 overnight at 3.0 for keegan as i thought he would drift in and out agian today meaning i only get £143 for keegan

i love these manager markets if they would only move during my waking hours i would be quids in

tighty i'd take a fan over a foreign corporate monster any day.HOWAY THE LADS

You KNOW I had to do that Andrew - first time I've associated Keegan with "Oh Yes" ;)

Exactly I have seen it myself with Mike Walker at Norwich it was painful at the end to see someone who was a "messiah" to the supporters failing badly.

I think this will have an immediate effect and will go ok for the next few months, but long term this looks like the wrong decision.

ok

See you in the Championship (joke!!!)

I'm guessing you have filtering on your image search then Rod. turn it off and it's 'OMG, I didn't need to see that'

i would love it if they stuff united, love it.lol

I was going to back Stoke tonight. Im undecided now though. Surely not even this news can transform those players into footballers.

keegan was/ is  a geordie messiah

a populist appointment  polling 3x more votes than shearer in local news poll for  next   manager


we have won sweet FA  for years anyway  ,but by heck,


let the rollercoaster ride begin tonite.......................................................

come on betfair give me my money

surely you mean champions league(joke!!!)......i'am off to take my medication

I got a picture of Keegan Connor Tracey - schwing!! - but I've Moderate Safe filter on.

This what you like Rod?

 ;popcorn;

...waits for Rooky.

fan quote on 5 Live

"all we want is good entertaining football"

I accept that, Rooky9 has made the point frequently..but really its the wrong aim isn't it?

Boring winning football first surely?

hope they are happy with a manger who himself said he was not up to the job at the top and will he get rid of the reserve team this time i will just love it if they go down just love it
i see the best fans in the world are now going to go to the game tonight to support there team they do deserve to be top of the league with fans like that

Newcastle have just proved that they are a laughing stock run by baboons. Keegan is a dinosaur and a gigantic failure. He only takes jobs on which cannot fail and he still manages to **** them up!

Newcastle - failed to buy the league where all other clubs that have tried have done so (Dalgleish, Ferguson, Mourinho, Goran-Eriksson).

Fulham - Again bankrolled to the hilt by Al Fayad. Left to manage England - he would never had taken the job if he never had the huge advantage of Fayad's millions

England - top class squad of players, failed miserably; worst England manager of all time.

Manchester City - Brand new stadium, spent bucket loads, nearly takes City to bankruptcy, jumps ship.

YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXpUdBlRZe8

What a ****!

looking forward to rooky explaining how its really a brilliant apointment!!

When will he quit stating 'the pressure was too much'?

at about 10pm tonight!

I think Newcastle are now a must bet tonight.  I was also going to back Stoke as Newcastle have been in a terrible state.  Instead I have done a £100 treble on Newcastle, Man City and Swansea.

He's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy!!!!!

Phew just in time, off to Betfair to back the Hammers, Havant and Stoke

why? because they got Keegan in?..he's not playing, you know!

Havant 1-0 up.

2-0

3-0.

GG Bandit.

Make that 3!!

Wow I wish I was as fecking clever as you, Jeezo you mean King Kev isn't partnering Owen up front?

You really are a fud.

yes..I'm the fud with a treble on the above 3 teams ;)

Well, half way up the A1 at 4pm this afternoon and I nearly crashed... Adrian Durham breaks the news of the 'new' manager. I'm dubious, ancious and nervous... but most of all I can feel the excitement, I couldn't tell you the last time I was exciting by going to a football game, Inter Milan away under Bobby Robson might have been it.

I don't have answer to the mockers of the appointment, time will tell - some comments can be dismissed.

The 'don't go back thing', well there is a pretty relevant example in the PL of that not being a bad thing - there are probably as many good examples of it as bad.

'Its taking a step backwards'. Well perhaps its what we need to do. Not all steps forward are good ones. I'd settle of being right back where we were (not an expectation though!!!!!)

'He couldn't buy the title'. I'd be pretty impressed by any club that could go from the verge of the 3rd league to 3rd place in the top league in 2 years without some heavy investment but I don't think the sums of money were massively out of line with what Man U were spending at the time. (though the fact they had the greatest crop of youth players coming through would class a zero investment I guess!!)

He's a bottler and will walk out'. I don't think anyone knows exactly what happened for him to leave the first time but you can bet it was pretty significant. When he left England everyone wanted him to leave - but he takes stick for doing a fairly honourable thing and stepping down - the FA's bank balance would be alot healthier if managers since would have done the same.

'Money waster'. In terms of his Newcastle buys; for any seen as a poor buy I could name two good ones - in terms of bargains and value.


The game tonight was the best football In have seen played (by Newcastle!) for 4 years, and I'm not joking. The three in midfield walked round the opposition, even more so when they had the extra room when down to 10 men. (side note U Rennie should not be allowed to ref on the local park, completely unfit and doesn't have a clue) Okay so Stoke are a Championship side and if they do make it up they will challenge the lowest points score in PL history, but the performance tonight against a form team, who outplayed us 10 days ago, was good to see. Not sure if it was Keegan's magic dust or just a bit off pressure off the players (who were playing in positions they were comfortable with), but like I say the most flowing and attractive football for ages.

Life can a bit of a grind at times, and football is a man's TV soap, escapism. I want mine to give me the sort of feeling I had tonight. Passion. Trophies fill cabinets but my many happy memories over the years, and the time I spend watching them with my Dad will be with me forever.

I 'LOVE' that interview. Its what its all about. It really doesn't matter what other peoples opinion is. In the end you will be right because he will either be sacked or walk away, but if its 3-5 years down the road with a nice transition to a younger blooded number two then that will do for stability.

For the record 'bigalhx1' there were 32,000 tickets sold at 9am this morning, which was already a decent proportion more than the crowd at Man City for an all premier league tie tonight. I'll give you one guess as to which club has taken the most fans to away games this season, with a clue that they play in black and white and have the furthest to travel for away games across a season- so please don't throw any of the loyal/greatest fans thing at me/us. All fans think there are the best. We are either great fans for getting the numbers we do with being such under achievers or we are a big club that people just want to jump on - you can't call it both ways.

That'll do, sleep required.

Stolen from a fans website that usual is pretty accurate in reflecting the general Newcastle feel (nufc.com)

Our hopes now are three-fold: none of which necessarily involve the acquisition of cups. 

A team to be supported with pleasure, not a heavy heart and a sense of duty.....
A manager we don't feel ambivalent, embarrassed or downright grubby about supporting....
For the rest of the planet to f*** right off and mind their own business.

www.nufc.com pwns the main site.

Interesting article about Shearer (http://blogs.guardian.co.uk/sport/2008/01/16/black_widow_shearer_answerable.html), not too complimentary.

Alan Shearer is the Winona Ryder of Newcastle United. She used to be known as the "Black Widow" due to her habit of picking up rock singers, having a relationship with them, and then discarding them, seemingly destroying their careers in the process.

Shearer's not that bad. He just picked the one football club - one he professes to love - and set about turning it into an adjunct of his ego. He never seems particularly concerned about what he could do for the club, unless "friends" divulging to supine journalists the circumstances under which he'd be prepared to manage the club actually counts as helping the Magpies. I'm not sure it does.

Now, it's probably true that not everything that has gone wrong at St James' Park in the past decade has been Shearer's fault. Just most of it. But what can one expect from a man who has spent so much of his career letting the world know that he is bigger than any team he plays for - even the national side. Remember when Graham Kelly said Shearer had threatened to withdraw from the England World Cup squad if the FA dared to punish him for the unfortunate and accidental contact (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ss_7WGYa9nQ) his boot made with the head of the hapless Neil Lennon in April 1998?.

There were plenty who disliked Shearer long before he became the anointed one of Tyneside. At Blackburn he picked up a reputation for being a nasty, niggly player; one who was happy to bend the rules, harangue referees and offer opponents the benefit of the sharper parts of his anatomy. It's said that fans only hate opponents with ability. That's not true; we hate opponents who think they're above the rules, too. That's why people started to turn against Shearer.

But we didn't see how unhealthy his presence could be until August 1999, when Ruud Gullit was sacked as Newcastle manager after leaving Shearer out of the starting line-up for the home game against Sunderland. History records that the Magpies lost 2-1 and Shearer was regarded as having forced Gullit out. History less often records that Newcastle were 1-0 up at half-time and the scores were level when Shearer came on. As Gullit justifiably observed: "When we were 1-0 up no one complained. Then we put him on in the second half and lost. What conclusions do you draw from that?"

Bobby Robson followed Gullit and by the end of 2000 the Sunday Mirror was reporting his intentions. In a piece published on December 31 - in which Shearer was quoted, so it probably wasn't wild speculation - the paper noted that he would "take over from Robson in the summer of 2002". He didn't, of course. Robson wasn't going anywhere, but this was the first of the many false starts to Shearer's managerial career, and it set the pattern to come: the assumption that whatever Big Al wanted, Big Al would get.

Some thought it might finally happen in early 2004, when Robson left Shearer out of Newcastle's Uefa Cup game against Valarenga. Shearer told the world he was "angry, disappointed and very surprised" to be left out. And the world heard the sound of knives sharpening.

They weren't deployed on that occasion, but there was plenty of evidence that Shearer was exerting an unhealthy level of influence during Robson's reign - not least in the manager's apparent acceptance that the only way for Newcastle to play was in whatever fashion suited Shearer. Remember, by this point Shearer was shorn of his pace and wasn't the finisher of his prime, which meant Newcastle had to adjust their game to compensate for his weaknesses.

It's a tribute to Robson's skills that he was able to construct the only worthwhile Newcastle team since Kevin Keegan was boss given those constraints. It's also arguable, though, that having to build his team around Shearer prevented Robson from rebuilding, at a time of strength, in a fashion that would have provided Newcastle with a base for the future. Newcastle fell apart when Shearer retired not because he was gone, but because they had already been fatally weakened on the pitch by the need to accommodate him.

And now this. After months of febrile speculation about how much Shearer wanted the Newcastle job - not his fault, but he could probably have stopped those "friends" from telling the press about his ambitions - Sam Allardyce finally vacated the seat, the great hero of the Geordie Nation having seen him off as well. Surely, at last, Shearer would have the courage of his convictions and make his case. But still, no official comment from the great man; just the mutterings about how he's nobody's No2 (despite still not having completed his Uefa Pro Licence, theoretically necessary for all Premier League managers, more than 18 months after retiring), except possibly Keegan's.

I wouldn't give a toss about all this were Shearer open about his ambitions. But he's not, is he? His behaviour over the course of this season has been, frankly, cowardly and cruel. He allowed Sam Allardyce to be hung out to dry in his name, without ever saying a word about his own intentions or feelings. He's displayed breathtaking arrogance in his apparent belief that he has nothing to learn from any more experienced managers. And his failure to discuss any of this in any meaningful way has displayed incredible contempt for his employer, the BBC, and Newcastle's fans. And still he is fawned over. It's baffling beyond belief.

Alan Shearer was a great, great footballer. If only he were as much of a man.

very interesting article

I could not agree more with the author of that article. Shearer is indeed a nasty piece of work as a man.

he speaks highly of you to boldie  rotflmfao

hahaha

Last night he called it his club. I hope he works with Keegan and takes over when Keegan wants because until he manages that club i think there will be problems.

I think you're right, until Shearer has a go and succeeds or fails he's a big albatross round the neck of any manager.

I think Keegan should get Ant and Dec as his assistants..Shearer can polish their...erm..let's say boots.

Keegan signs Shaun Wright-Phillips...













(http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c23/slate20/Keegan.gif)

Keegan re-signs Brian Kilcline to stiffen the defence

 rotflmfao Killer was a legend!!!

lmao!

i thought this article was disgusting, its one of the worst character assassinations i have ever read, it as though he hates the man with a passion and sat down and try and think of any little gossip throughout shearers career to justify his hatred or maybe just to sell papers  as usual from a twisted press point of view to sensationalise. he opens his mouth he is crap he keeps his mouth shut he is crap, he gets upset about getting left out of the team he is horrible piece of work, alan shearer was a true professional for his country and his club, how come if he was that bad when he was playing  he was never headline news, well saying i dont like him is not headline news, i dont care who you are if the press look back over your life picking on any little thing and twisting it round they can make you look bad. i hope there is a backlash towards this paper, 1 of England's greatest strikers should not be treated like this, if you dont like him thats fine but there was no need for this article,

to be honest that is a great post, that is what supporting sports teams should be about. Yeah winning this and that would be great but in most leagues in most countries teams are never ever gonna win owt.

i wouldnt be so sure on keegan being manager betfair still havent paid out saying its not been confirmed yet

LOl, Well I saw him their with my owns eyes and heard him saying he was back for the second time as manager and third time at the club!! Press conference at 2pm tomorrow - they're probably waiting for that.

yep no payout till the conference allthough betting is suspended

but there is still a chance of david platt getting the job and me getting £2000 instead of £140

Great press conference,wasn't sure about kev coming back,but it's never going to be dull is it.

Having now been fully encapsulate by the frenzied tide that is KK coming 'home' I just can't wait for the game tomorrow.

A cracking press conference, and a role for Shearer if there is one he wants. The next few years could be so good!

A few intersting points in there, such as having first contact last week and waiting for the owner to return. That seems to support the theory that Redknap wasn't actually offered the job, as has been suggested more recently. (although there would obviously be motivation for that change in story).

If anyone doubted Newcastle United was a big club then maybe they should think when such an appointment has ever attracted so much press attention.

So this makes Newcastle a big club?

LOL. Obviously not in itself. Its an indicator not a contributor.

You've got to love Keegan.  What an antithesis to Allardyce.

There is no doubting that Newcastle are a big club.

big compared to stevenage borough maybe.

damm betfair have paid out now

so i will have to wait till next christmas to get a bet on david platt being the next newcastle manager paid off

The only place where Newcastle really don't have the so-called 'big club' credentials is terms of trophys won in recent years, though the financial turnover (not profits obv lol) and regular support are a match for more than most in the Premiership...

I doubt Newcastle are a big club but I should think again because they appoint Kevin Keegan and there is a lot of press?

Bolton are very nice price 2moro - will be having some of that.

LOL! I would love it....

Newcastle have the 5th or 6th highest turnover in England and the 3rd highest average attendance.

I think you've been swept up in the euphoria here Rooky. I don't blame you as your desperate for Newcastles fortunes to change but you really shouldn't pay much attention to these press conferences as you know what they are going to say beforehand & basically tell you what you want to hear.

FWIW I think this appointment will give Newcastle a shot in the arm initially but really can't see it ending up in anything other than tears.

Good luck & enjoy it while you can.

Off to the theatre match now. Should be a cracking atmosphere. All we need is for the players to have been caught up in the euphoria like they were on Wednesday and it'll be a cracker - plus keeping Kevin Nolan quiet.

Chances are it will end in tears if the criteria for success is winning something or getting champions league. 'But it is possible'. Thats not my goal at the minute though, so I fully intend on enjoying the ride and hope that others do too.

Lets hope we make football first at 8.25pm and it'll have been a match worth watching!

 ;sleep;

what a crock of shit that game was .... and it cost me money !!!

We weren't great, but Bolton were truly terrible.

Tactical master stroke. A great way to ensure that we don't get too carried away!

Shola Ameobi isn't really a premier league player. A rusty Shola Ameobi isn't really a Championship player. Shame that he was awful today because I thought he might have put some effort in to try and make the fact the previous manager froze him out look like the wrong choice.  We alway struggle without Viduka, though a number of times its because he's been on the bench. First transfer target has got to be a younger Viduka/Shearer mould player (definitely not Defoe then please!), second is probably another central midfield player. I'd probably wait until the summer to see if a settled and strong enough back four can be made from those already there, or in Africa.

When you have to play your third or fourth choice centre half in central midfield I don't think you can be expecting to create a great deal and it showed. Can't really blame anyone because all ther midfielders are all missing through their own doing.

Looking forward to the Emirates next Saturday and my £4 a pint drinking already....

Why not Defoe, at least he knows where the net is ffs .... your current set of piss poor forwards couldnt hit a cows arse with a banjo !

New centre half, new midfielder, new younger target man to take the weight off Viduka's goals

and go from there....

This is not true. Plus we already have two strikers in his mould and need elsewhere before we should look at changing them.

Defoe hasn't developed as I wished he had. He's decent, but Martins and Owen are much superior players than Defoe

Great article from nufc.com after the Bolton game.

The Keegan appointment had taken me through the full range of emotions. Initial and genuine shock was soon followed by despair, denial and then indifference. And that was just the first 30 seconds.

The subsequent media hyperbole was genuinely nauseating with radio and TV mikes shoved in the faces of the usual suspects and members of the general public telling the world "it's what the Geordies wanted". I'm sure there were even folk claiming that it didn't matter if we lost every game 5-4, King Kev would win us summat....

Well, to be brutally honest, it wasn't what this Geordie wanted.
Supporting this club has turned me bitter and cynical. I don't think I was born that way, it's just been a natural consequence of years of disappointment and despair. The rest of my life has turned out pretty well so it has to be Newcastle United's fault.

My relationship with NUFC was in danger of turning stale after the Souness/Roeder/Allardyce years and recent fiascos threatened to have me turning to marriage guidance counsellors. We've said it many times before but indifference really is the biggest worry for football fans (and marriages).

But as the days wore on and the Bolton match approached something deep down in my core started to reignite. The return of Keegan had relit the pilot light and gradually the old bolier was starting to fire up again.

It was a plainly ridiculous appointment and once again left us open to national ridicule which seems to be our perpetual place in the football and I thought I'd had enough of that. But as the outside media started to snipe and sneer it all started to make perfect sense.

We clearly have an owner who is as bonkers as we are and who seems to have got into our psyche incredibly quickly. The media gurus couldn't cope with Ashley wearing his shirt and sitting (standing) with the fans. Why not? It might not be what a Chairman should do but he's the owner.

People like Allardyce and Souness had no place here - they should never have been appointed. The weren't good enough to completely change the make-up of the club. Souness had found that out at Liverpool. But the appointment of Keegan - whether it works or not - was probably perfect. A crazy manager, for a crazy club with a crazy owner and crazy fans.

If we can't get Wenger or Mourinho to this club (both big enough and good enough to transform us) then the last thing we want is another Allardyce or Souness (e.g. Mark Hughes). What's the point in that?

The national phone-ins have loved it, loved it. People from all over the country, desperate to point out that it's ridiculous. Desperate to tell us we'll never win anything and that it'll all end in tears. We know! But we'll have some great memories along the way.

And what if it did work? What if he just went and bloody won something? Can you imagine...? As KK said himself, it's not impossible.

Newcastle fans have huge expectations apparently. Do we? Do we really? I expect us to win bugger all in my lifetime but I want to get that anticipation, that raw emotion of going to see a side in black and white give their all and try and entertain. And in doing that I want us to have the same chance as Spurs, Everton, Man City, Villa or even 2004 Carling Cup winners, Boro of winning a trophy. That's not being unrealistic.

The top four will take a little longer but they're not invincible. Fergie can't go on forever, Liverpool seem intent on imploding, Grant may hit tough times at Stamford Bridge and even Wenger has had transitional seasons.

What I don't want is a team that will bore the pants off us and struggle in the short term with the promise of boring the pants off us and struggling a bit less in the long term. Why would any fan put up with that?

So, having gone through the full gamet of emotions in the days leading up to the Bolton, I was right behind the appointment, striding to the game, genuinely expectant and full of hopes and dreams. Not quite as I'd been as a youngster on my way to Keegan's debut for Newcastle but not far off. The boiler was fired up and the hot water was pumping through the pipes….

I'm sure most of us felt like that but how many fans of the "big four" have gone to a televised match against Bolton feeling the same? None, I'd suggest. And that's what they resent. They can't cope with the love we have for our club because they simply don't understand it.

Football is not about winning trophies, it's about winning battles and you decide what the battles are. I'd rather be Alan Shearer than Gary Neville. Who's got the most medals? Who's the legend…?

And so to the game, which was as mundane and uninspiring as anything we'd seen in recent years but we already had that one covered:

Two teams tainted by the influence of Sam Allardyce slugging out a goalless draw after the helter-skelter week ultimately had an anticlimactic ending. After such a hysterical build-up, not even King Kev could combat the ginger prince's team of bare-knuckle brawlers as the Trotters hoofed their way in and gatecrashed the party.

Keegan's first Newcastle game as a player was a pretty poor one against Q.P.R., memorable only for his debut goal (and a streaker in fluorescent socks) and from the start this looked like it would have to follow suit.

There was certainly no way it could match his first game as manager, when Bristol City were dispatched 3-0, as Gary Megson's Bolton came for a goalless draw and almost snatched a win.

In Gavin McCann and Kevin Davies, Bolton possess two players seemingly disinterested by the round object everyone was chasing. Both spent the afternoon practising for wrestlemania.

Add to that, the constant niggling and whingeing of Kevin Nolan, the time-wasting of Jussi Jaaskelainen and the persistent head-clutching by Lubomir Michalik and it made for a miserable evening's viewing.

It was no surprise that the game couldn't live up to the hype but where there's Keegan, there's often some magic and you couldn't help feeling a winner might just pop up from somewhere. Captain Michael Owen, perhaps. Alas, it wasn't to be.

The only magic dust in Kev's pocket was used to miraculously restore the supposedly knackered knee of Shola Ameobi. The big striker played the full game and put in a reasonable shift but for a player missing since November to have to come in and do that showed how few options Keegan had.

Kazenga LuaLua came on for Damien Duff and looked as dangerous as anybody but as Keegan admitted afterwards he was struggling to use anyone from his inexperienced subs bench.

In the end, though, it was a Wanderers replacement who almost snatched victory when Jlloyd Samuel nearly scored from close range but thankfully Shay Given made a smart low block with his leg.

So the Keegan bubble has already burst, we hear. Good. Perhaps the media folk can crawl back under their stones and leave us to start the rebuilding work properly.

Bolton are one of only three sides to beat Manchester United this season, so this wasn't such a bad result, especially given our lengthy list of absentees.

But whatever the result, the passion was back. If not on the pitch then it certainly was in the dug-out and the fire was undoubtedly back in the belly of the fans.

We've genuinely got something to look forward to now. We've got the promise of an emotional rollercoaster - whether that be extreme highs or lows - it's got to be better than a future under Allardyce or Hughes.

I hope Keegan does take a huff and walk out on us like everyone is expecting, but I hope that's in a good few year's time and I hope it's his decision. The worst thing that could happen is that we get bored of him, he lingers on and gets sacked, disappearing with a huge payoff.

If he does eventually walk out again, it would prove that he is still passionate. That's all we ask.

A cracking trip down to London and the emirates, with the exception of 35 second half minutes.

When I saw that the FA weren't going to take any action against Adebayor I knew it would cost us badly this weekend (and on Tuesday) and it proved to be the case. First half I thought we matched if not edged Arsenal. In the second half their quality came through and once they scored it was never really going to happen. Having said that, there was an obvious obstruction in the build up to the second and that completely killed the game.

The stadium is very impressive as a building, but perhaps doesn't help itself as an atmospheric ground, with the gaps at the back of the roof/stand and the roof not covering more of the seats and keeping the noise in. The stories about 'the library' I would say are relatively true. There seemed to be a small section at the opposite end of the ground to us that were standing and singing, but other than that there were only really the original chants of '1-0 to the arsenal', '2-0 to the arsenal' and there weren't many of them left to sing '3-0 to the arsenal'. Having said this there were a number of Newcastle fans round me that I wish weren't there, or infact alive. I had my first experience of idiotic racism for probably over ten years. These people should be put down in the hope that they don't get the chance to reproduce and spend the rest of their life leaching off society. I don't hold much hope but we'll see if reporting them does any good.

I went to the ground with an Arsenal fan I know, and his mates, in my colours, had a pint at a pub by the ground, got the tube back into town and had no problems at all, which is how football should be without losing the banter inside the ground. I did get booed by a 5 year old boy in the crazy queuing system at Arsenal station which was fairly amusing.

There's always next year....