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OK..

Firstly you start with say £100...

You bet £1 on red (even money)

Say you win:
You do another £1.. and so on

Say you lose:
You do £2 on red. Then if you lose again £4. Again £8. Again £16. Again £32. Again £64. Again £128 etc

This means that every time you spin and win you are making an overall profit, regardless of how many times you have lost in a row before that..

i have been playing this for a couple of hours on a site i will not disclose... and cashed out £1000 profit...

Do you think this is luck, or is this actually a way to get around the system??

Of course, you have to have the bankroll, incase you do end up losing 6 or more spins in a row, however, the odds on that happening are not likely

Your thoughts...

Numpt

it only works if you have an endless supply of money and there is no cap on the table

why did you cash out?

I have heard of this before as a "system" to beat roulette but the reality is that you do have to have deep pockets.

£1 - loose
£2 - loose
£4 - loose
£8 - loose
£16 - loose
£32 - Loose
£64 - loose

So if you have 7 loosing spins, and your £27 out of your role.

Now say the reverse happens and you win, when do you stop?  It a gamblers mentality that if they loose even if they are in profit then they are betting again to recoup the last loss, if you keep doubling the stake then it only takes 3 or 4 spins down the line to go busto.

So no I dont think this is a way to beat roulette, however backing # 11 all the time is a sure fire way to win :)

Bandit is logging this with his foolproof footy coupon system and is currently ringing around trying to remortgage his house to fund the stakes.

Martingale System is the name.

It works everytime but once, unfortunately the once is more money than you can normally afford. I actually did this a while back when i was student trying to clear an online casino bonus, lets just say I had a brown pant moment where i had £512 on one spin which was a hell alot of money for me at the time all to win a quid. Never again.

The odds roulette are still the same your edge is still as bad and for this to work you need an infinite bankroll which no one has.

I read somewhere that a casino in montecarlo had 29 blacks in a row in the 50's/60's. To cope with this you need a roll that 2^28 to win your pound, which is 268 435 456

Even I know you can't beat roulette, I have spent snough trying.

All roulette systems fail eventually.  It's a slippery road, please don't go down there.

A little roulette story from Blackpool.

During the GUKPT event, play had finished for the day so I was wondering around just having a look and stopped at the roulette. It's a game I played in Vegas in 98 and had a blast playing for 25c chips, but in the UK it's always put me off.  Anyway, there was a guy there who was doing things the right way and just covering the table and seemed to be doing ok.  I changed up my 2000 (pence lol, just £20) and placed a few bets, won a bit but lost it all within 10 mins or so.  A well known blonde (I won't mention who just incase they'd rather not be identified, but it's nothing dodgy, came up, got £50 whilst the wheel was spinning, put it all down quickly and lost it.  Then they got some more, I think it was £100, but I'm not 100%, placed that all down and won a bit.   Put it all down again and won again, changed it up and ended up walking away with around £1300 within 3 spins of the wheel!

I'm no casino player, but it amused me.  Certainly the way to do things, not like me faffing with my £1 here and there :D

 i havent heard this system for years ,this is one of the oldest and most dangerous betting systems there is, just not worth it, you must have been very lucky to win £1000 backing even money for £1 stakes . but you will normaly just win a few pounds till  you get that 1 run of bad luck when you could loose a fortune, you will never get it back, never use the double up system, you will either run out of money or hit there limit. at the end of the day whats the point of risking thousands of pounds which you may have to on the first bad run for just a few pounds.

The mistake is that unless you play at a zero edge casino you are not even money playing red black as there is one green number which will always tip it in the favour of the house.

You also only recoup your money on each spin so you never actually get your £1 profit unless you stop as soon as you win your first £1 profit and then never play again. In reality its no different to repeatadly putting a pound on each time in a zero edge casino, in the long run you would be square.

Well i cashed out my profit none the less....purely because i was extremely happy with the amount i won so didnt see the need to get too gready..

Maybe i was just lucky, but i will probably be trying this system on the same scale as last time which means i dont stand to lose too much if i do lose... (highest i had to go was £64. after that i re grouped and started again patiently)
none of the 128 256 512 1024 2048 rubbish lol

at last a topic of which i was a profesional at,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,after winning thousands and i mean thousands £10-£20k a night,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,to losing thousands,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i played the wheel for 15 years and over that 15 years i did my b0l0x,,,,,,,,,,,,won plenty and lost plenty,,,,,,,,,,as to your system,,,,,,,,it would work so long as there was no zero on the wheel coz they take half of your stake then you really have to double right up...........
i tried the martin system a few times and well,,,,,,,,lets just say if you havent got the time,patients,and big balls forget it...................................mr tier man i was known as,i was grovesnors best punter in wales,,,,free food/drinks/passes,i even got all the free stuff that they had to get things stamped///the portable bbq was fab lol,,,,,,dont get involved,,,

i have been playing this for a couple of hours on a site i will not disclose... and cashed out £1000 profit...
as to this post about you cashing out a grand in a few hours dont tell lies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,IF YOU HAD 1000 WININNING SPINS(NOT INCLUDING THE LOSING ONES) ON LINE IN ONE NIGHT IT WOULD TAKE YOU OVER 16.6 HOURS that is not even including your losing spins at 1 minute per spin on line,,,,,,,,,,get real,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

Some sites you can bet a lot more fast and furious than one minute per spin sofa_king.
The more spins, the more money they take, so almost every online casino has an option to cut out the animation sequences and get on with the job of generating a random number from 1 to 37

http://wizardofodds.com/gambling/bettingsystems.html

Is a good link to read before anyone tries this system.

NumptyITB, I suggest you take your money and go before they take it back.

Even a stop loss of 64 won't help you, on average you are destined to lose the 64 before you make 45 (if memory serves me correctly) so will have the odd good run, but it won't make up for the bad ones if you keep this system going.

unfortunatly he aint lieing he cashed out a grand whether the whole lot was through the system i dont know.

being a person who has had a serious gambling problem from a very young age i hate seeing rookie and numpty gambling. especially casino games.

luckily for me poker came along and my gambling is so much more controlled.


you got lucky numpty, heed the advice above enjoy your good fortune and quit now!

Some sites you can bet a lot more fast and furious than one minute per spin sofa_king.
The more pins, the more money they take, so almost every online casino has an option to cut out the animation sequences and get on with the job of generating a random number from 1 to 37

ok point taken i didnt think of that i used to watch the ball when i played online,,,,,,forgot about stoping the animation,lol,

how about an apology to numpty for calling him a liar bigman? otherwise he might just come over to cyprus and bash you up lol  ;) rotflmfao

send him ,,,,lol,,,,sorry numpt ya liar

sofa, numpty will chop you in half down the middle and fight the pair of ya !! ;)

trust you to jump on the bandwagon,,,,,how are ya ONE EYE,,,,,x

good ta lover ... missing you though, when ya coming back for a visit ?

i dont wanna come back i got all i want here good food.,.,good weather.,.,.,good kid,.,.,.sex is alright when i get to watch it.,..,.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa we all love it mate,, much better than the uk
i got to come home soon for a bit of business im gonna buy some trucks to sell out here for a few quid.,.,
hope you and gingar and the kids are fine,,,you going to cardiff apat?

all fine, ta for asking ... no not making Cardiff, only came last time to see you ya big mug.

I don't want the following post to come across as condescending. I lost a lot of money betting almost exactly this way when I was around about seventeen. Stopping at £32, and thinking that the odd moderate loss would be paid for by my many winnings.

The maths were not on my side. I found this out experimentally (which is expensive) far cheaper to work out on paper that it doesn't work.


I'm to show you how to work out how unlikely or likely this is.


- There are 37 numbers on the wheel. The probability of each number coming up is always the same.

At this point, we should all whip the windows calculators out, and switch the view to scientific.

Divide 1 by 37

This is the probabilty of any given single number landing. (0.027....)


We want to bet on black. The 18 red numbers and the zero will mean we lose our bet, for a total of 19 losing numbers.

Mulitply your 0.027... answer by 19

Our answer should now be just over 0.51. This is the probability of losing any individual bet (just over 51%).

But we know that already, we're talking about a string of bets, of which only one needs to be a winner. To lose every single one in a run of six, how do we work that out?


Quite simple, just multiply the probabilties together. (0.51351 x 0.51351 x 0.51351 .......etc etc)

To do this on windows calculator quickly, put in your probabilty, press the x^{^}y key, then press 6, then =. Pressing 0.51351 then x^{^}y then 3 is the same as doing 0.51351 x 0.51351 x 0.51351


With your 0.513....answer on the screen, press x^{^}y, then press 6, then =

The answer should be 0.018336....
This is your probabilty of losing six in a row.

Multiply our answer by 100 to get the % chance of losing 6 in a row


So 1.8336% is the percentage chance that when we start the system, we will lose six in a row, and £63.
The remaing 98.1664 % of the time, we will win £1, and then go back to the start.

With a similar idea, we can take the probability of winning a pound (0.981664) and work out the chance of doing this 63 times in a row.

This gives us a 31.2% chance that we will win £63 before we lose £63

With 7 in a row and £127 to wager, there is a 99.06% chance (0.9906 probability) of winning a £1

This gives us a 30.1% chance that we will win £127 before we lose £127


29.3% to make £253 before you lose 8 in a row.
27.8% to make £511 before you lose 9 in a row.
etc
etc

Punt the grand if you must, but there's better ways to do it.

I think it was Neil Channing that wrote an article once telling how a fella at the Vic used to come in every day and bet 35 individual £1k bets on the numbers to win a grand a day. He would then go over to the card room and tell the guys they daft for sitting there for so long when his system was the best way to win a grand, until that is he went in 2 days running and the number he didnt bet hit both days.

In short there is no fool proof way to beat roulette, only systems that win occasionally.

Stay away from the spinning wheel of death. Lost more money than i dare imagine playing that stupid game.

Couple of bright stories though, once chucked on 2 ponies onto a clear layout and they landed resting on each other on the split of 4 and 7, the spins rather beautifully then went 4,7,7,4 and there were 2 hot girls there who seemed very impressed and one of them was duly pulled by me, great night.

Another good one was finishing up on blackjack with just £52 left and being a poor student deciding to leave with enough to eat for the next 2 weeks, i wandered over to roulette to punt the £2, the spin started and i placed my £2 on 21 and watched the wheel duly deliver the magic 21. Do a little fist pump, dead chuffed, i look at the number and there are no single chips there, eh? definitely put em on. Look in my hand and there are the single chips, but the 2 ponies are no where to be seen, thats because they are sitting pretty on 21 and the croupier is now cutting out that £1750 for me, woo hoo, drinks are on me.

Still don't make up for the miserable nights of losing every penny and walking home in the rain indulging in a bit of serious self loathing.

stay away from roulette. It is pure evil unless you just do it for a bit of a laugh. it is not a moneymaking opportunity. In fact it's a guaranteed loss. The house has an edge and that means you will ALWAYS lose in the long run. Listen to everybody on here..a lot of people on here have done their nuts in playing casino games.

i agree  nothing wrong in having a bet on the roulette for a bit of interest everynow and then,ive never been serious at any type of gambling what boils down to pure luck, its not just the house edge which means you will never win no matter what complicated formula you come up with to hide this simple truth, i just cant put a decent bet on something without a reason, i may get it wrong but thats the enjoyment for me. the only long term edge you can get in gambling to overcome any house edge is skill, which means a knowledge of the sport or whatever it is you like to bet on, you still need to understand value. which really is just the bookies house edge, putting serious money in slot machines and roulette,no way its just a bit of fun

There is a reverse betting system that i have finished reading about last week which would work by playing on the even chance games, but instead of playing with your money Lose term when your trying to double your money (i.e 1, 2, 3, 4,) total bet 6 win on 4, = 8) that you play the other way around, so you would be limiting your losses until there was a progression on whatever even chance you were playing on.

Something like this: you write down on a piece of paper: 1 2 3 4 your next bet would always be adding the 2 outside numbers:

You win the next bets would be as follows: 1 2 3 4 10 = next bet 11, then 1 2 3 4 10 22 = next bet 23

then 23 loses you would have this left: 1 2 3 4 10 22 so you next bet would be 12,

12 wins: 1 2 3 4 10 22 12: next bet 14 and so on, until you lose your intitial 10 units or you would continue until you hit the house limit on even chance, and then start again with 1 2 3 4.., each time you start a new lot of numbers you are only risking 10 units, them units being whatever you deem to play with.

Not sure i have explained it fully, but I will try and find out who wrote the book and book name, even though I dont touch the devils wheel i found it very enjoyable read, and its supposedly a real story..

 :dontask:

there is a very simple way to win at roulette and all it costs is one initial outlay.................


























not sure how much a casino license costs these days though!!

hasn't the smoking ban hit them very hard though?

(http://techdigest.tv/Carol_Vorderman-thumb.jpg)

i read a similar book myself, dont think its the same 1 though, the theory was a few players would all bet different bets on the same roulette wheel ,1 betting red all the time another black ,others odd and even, he claimed  someone would have very good run of luck,and win a lot of cash, he would do this by doubling up and stopping at a certain point and starting again at minimum stake , another player would break even and another player would have a run of really bad luck but he would only ever loose the mimum stakes as he would not double up till he won 1 bet  , he claimed the winner would more than compensate for the losers bets, but it would take hours of play for system to work, i enjoyed reading the book at the time and wish it was as simple as that,

Sounds like the reverse Labouchere system

It doesn't matter which system you use. They all just alter the pattern of your expected return. The EV is always the same though.

The system numpty was using prolongs your wins until at one point you have a big loss and that loss IS inevitable :(

Oh, and I had a punt on online blackjack a few years ago using the same doubling your bet system.

It didn't take long for me to reach the cap on the table! Fortunately I won that bet. But I haven't played since. 5/6/7 losses in a row, easier than you think to reach!


I actually also hit blackjack on the final hand, so made a tidy profit. BUT no way am I playing thinking that that system works again, I was 1 hand away from it going titsup and as I said it hadn't taken that long to get there either.

Thats the one it was about..

love the pics with Carol Andrew  rotflmfao

Its rather less confusing if you read the book, i promise

The 'double your stake' method has its origins in one of the 'Arabian Nights' tales I believe.

King of Persia, (or summat) has his daughter kidnapped and asks various Princes to rescue her and the successful one will be rewarded with gold etc. Prince Mateyboy pitches up and says sod the gold this is the deal - get a chess board and place one grain of rice on the first square. On each subsequent square double the grains until all 64 squares are covered. The King, (obv blonde roulette degen), thinks flippin heck that'll probably be only about twenty quids worth and says go for it son.

Daughter recovered.
Math done.
King fecked.

how on earth did he mnage to get all that rice on one board

and did it not go off before he had a chance to eat or sell it

Right Iron...your task for the day... calculate the following;

1. How many grains in total will be on final square.
2. Area of final square required to accomodate said grains. (you can't stack 'em)
3. Number of bowls of rice the total board could provide, (I'll leave you to count how many grains in a bowl - is there a Chinese near you?)

i 1st heard of this system years ago but it was related to dog racing and i went through a few race cards and there would have quite a few twitchy bum moments but it did seem too work,

good luck

all I would say about any of this is to watch out - however unlikely something is to happen on a roulette wheel, one day it will happen..

I always recall the night in Glasgow quite a few years ago we arrived at the casino, quite well refreshed and pockets bulging after a successful night backing fast greyhounds. After messing around for a bit we noticed that there was a roulette wheel had given out 5 black numbers in a row.

Must be red next time my mate reasoned - and he wasnt shy to back up his reasoning with a big wad bouncing onto the red diamond box.

black

"definitely red this time"I said,  repeating his folly.

black

"your problem is yiz dont have any belief" said mate no 3who dispensed with using the notes with the number 20 in the corner and replaced them with a not inconsiderable amount of the ones numbered 50.

black.


Eventually a red number came out - after 15 black numbers in a row. By the time this happened we had retreated to the bar to lick our wounds, and see if we had enough cash for a taxi home.


ouch.

A mate of mine did exactly the same thing, only after he blew all his dough chasing black, we walked out of the casino to find his car, sans tyres, balancing on on 4 piles of bricks.

Numpty. From me, to you.

Listen to your Dad, he's right.

Please do NOT play roulette, it's an evil thing.

Now, & trust me on this.

There is NO SYSTEM to beat the Roulette wheel. I GUARANTEE THAT.

Roulette is for MUGS.

Some of the World's - & certainly the UK's - best poker players spend days winning Tourneys, then dump it off on the Magic Wheel in 10 minutes flat. It's bizarre, sheer stupidity. Some of the UK's best players, & most-loved players, are totally, 100%, boracic - due to Roulette & dice/craps. I could name a dozen without even thinking about it.

PLEASE don't fall prey to Roulette, it's addictive, & will destroy you.

Oh, & yes, I've been there, many moons - & tens of £thousands - ago.

Try setting light to £50 notes. It takes a little longer, but it's almost as effective in getting rid of your money as Roulette is.

Very wise words.