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Title: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on January 13, 2008, 04:12:52 AM
It's back on Channel 4 and back to its original format too.  49 players playing 7 x 7 handed heats and starting off next Tuesday at 11.50pm with our very own Jen Mason's heat.  There are some tasty heats to look forward to, having seen a couple of them myself - I can't wait to watch the lot.

The line up and the schedule for the Party Poker Late Night Poker are as follows:
 

HEAT 1: January 15th.

Ian Frazer
Simon Trumper
Roy Brindley
Karl Mahrenholz
Jen Mason
Bo Sehlstedt
Tom O'Shea (Online Qualifier )


HEAT 2: January 22nd.

Eddy Scharf
Jac Arama
Julian Thew
Kevin O'Connell
Maria Demetriou
Martin Wendt
Ketul Nathwani (Online Qualifier )


HEAT 3: January 29th.

Marcel Luske
Koroush  Tasaodi
Surinder Sunar
John Kalmar
Annette Obrestad
Robert Williamson III
Henric Olander (Online Qualifier)


HEAT 4: February 5th.

Roland de Wolfe
Marc Goodwin
Michael Keiner
Padraig Parkinson
Dave Colclough
Erik Andrén ( Qualifier )
Marian Thissen ( Qualifier )


HEAT 5: February 12th.

Joe Beevers
Liam Flood
Rene Mouritsen
Agnieszka Rylik
Dave Ulliott
Andreas Jörbeck ( Qualifier )
Jon Parsons ( Qualifier )


HEAT 6: February 19th.

Ram Vaswani
Andy Black
Paul Jackson
Maud Mulder
Praz Bansi
Anders Henriksson
Tobias Reinkemeier ( Qualifier )


HEAT 7: February 26th.

Barny Boatman
Donnacha O'Dea
David Tighe
Pascal Perrault
Xuyen Pham
James Close ( Qualifier )
Paul Kristoffersson ( Qualifier )


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on January 13, 2008, 05:31:43 AM
great line up, looks like being a cracker.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Boba Fett on January 13, 2008, 05:40:54 AM
Lots of nice ones but I think Heat 4 is my pick of the bunch


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: RED-DOG on January 13, 2008, 10:54:39 AM
Wow, some class on display there Maria. Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Robert HM on January 13, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
Thanks for the info, now I knew what I'll be doing for the next few tuedays nights


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Tinsel Town on January 13, 2008, 01:36:35 PM
...tell us about the button Barney............cant wait


 Td Th


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: GlasgowBandit on January 13, 2008, 03:57:25 PM
Heats 4 and 6 look the tastiest.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: ifm on January 13, 2008, 06:27:51 PM
How do they pick the players?
I'm bemused by a lot of these tv comps, do you need to know someone who knows someone?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Ironside on January 13, 2008, 08:24:55 PM
i think heat 3 will have a few fireworks on it


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Indestructable on January 13, 2008, 10:00:11 PM
How do they pick the players?
I'm bemused by a lot of these tv comps, do you need to know someone who knows someone?

I share your bemusement and guess a lot of it is down to contacts, but presumably they all still have to buy in at the same level to the event or am I being naive?  :dontask:


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: jakally on January 13, 2008, 10:12:41 PM
How do they pick the players?
I'm bemused by a lot of these tv comps, do you need to know someone who knows someone?

I share your bemusement and guess a lot of it is down to contacts, but presumably they all still have to buy in at the same level to the event or am I being naive?  :dontask:

Who else do you think should be in, and who's in who shouldn't be?




Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Colchester Kev on January 13, 2008, 10:13:38 PM
its on telly, Ego is bound to be pissed that he aint in it ;)


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Indestructable on January 14, 2008, 06:42:38 AM
its on telly, Ego is bound to be pissed that he aint in it ;)

Good point.  ;)

Actually looking again, perhaps there are some typos in the names which is why we can't see profiles?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Tractor on January 16, 2008, 12:10:33 AM
BUMP

just starting now


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: WarBwastard on January 16, 2008, 12:24:55 AM
Why do people raise their voices when they're talking to someone who doesn't speak the same language.  HAVE YOU GOT A PAIR?  A PAIR!  HAVE YOU GOT A PAAAAIR?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Mango99 on January 16, 2008, 12:35:11 AM
I am watching this also. Good mini-interview with Jen just now.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: doubleup on January 16, 2008, 12:48:17 AM
Fraser must be the luckiest c*nt on earth....



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 16, 2008, 12:48:35 AM
Ian Frazer learnt how to play Ace King from Ironside I guess...


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Mango99 on January 16, 2008, 12:49:50 AM
ul Jen. nicely played tho.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: da_poker_monkey on January 16, 2008, 12:50:10 AM
Does Trumper know this is a six seater not a 1000 runner tourney?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: da_poker_monkey on January 16, 2008, 12:50:47 AM
Ok maybe a 7 seater lol


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: da_poker_monkey on January 16, 2008, 12:59:58 AM
Is it me or is he starting to win just to make me look bad?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: da_poker_monkey on January 16, 2008, 01:02:48 AM
 8c 8s 8h Js Jh  ;marks;


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Longy on January 16, 2008, 01:18:22 AM
I enjoyed this, keeping closely to the original was always the way to go. Jen was unlucky and Ian Fraiser is an example of the varience of 1 seater events imo.

I thought Simon played fine, playing super tight early in single table format is standard strategy (remember 2nd gets another go) especially given he had people like Brindley and Fraiser at the table.



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: DTD-ACES on January 16, 2008, 01:24:18 AM
Does Trumper know this is a six seater not a 1000 runner tourney?

Yes i know it was a TV shootout but you have to adjust to the table dynamics and what you dont see in the edited highlights is Ian raising virtually every hand , therefore i played to get heads up and then try to win. Ian played very well with terriffic confidence and the AA v KK helped as did rivering Jen after she flopped two pair which was a key hand.

Interestingly they cut out what would have been a great hand to commentate on and watch . After the first hand heads up i took the chip lead with 88 v A6 , the very next hand he got it back with JQ v my AT flopping a J , two hands later i got him allin to regain the chip lead with 55 v 22, the flop was 3 4 6 7 ..... 5 !! and it wasn't shown as there was no change in the chips , the last hand was a cold deck A7 v Ians A4 flop A 4 4 lol.

Wait till the semis where i get well and  truely " Chillied " lol

ACES


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: da_poker_monkey on January 16, 2008, 01:30:20 AM
You never need to respond to anything I say on here I know nothing about poker at all ( and I think everyone on here figured that out in 5 mins) Thats why I play in $2 STT's and you play in .....$10 STT's?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Dry em on January 16, 2008, 08:14:39 AM
Jen was unlucky

sigh


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Acidmouse on January 16, 2008, 08:22:23 AM
Yeah the most successful late night poker player needs our advice :P


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: M3boy on January 16, 2008, 08:35:02 AM
Its a great line up.

Would of loved to see Pete Evans and Peter Costa in there though.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Newportlad on January 16, 2008, 08:45:10 AM
Whilst it was a very good programme, i feel it would have been much better if shown over 2 hours.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 16, 2008, 10:35:38 AM
Any repeats?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Bainn on January 16, 2008, 10:51:41 AM
Any repeats?

Channel 4 offers "4oD", a facility to watch programmes on your pc and catch up with TV you have missed, up to 30 days I think.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 16, 2008, 02:36:07 PM
Hard luck Jen and Karl, highly edited I'm sure but I thought both did themselves proud at the felt and in interviews.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Djinn on January 16, 2008, 03:29:03 PM
Yeah that was a frosty deck for Karl - made the play most likely to stack me and got unlucky.  But the luck pendulum swung the other way and knocked my teeth out, I don't know if that's a consolation or not.

And Snoops - you've changed your tune since last night when you said, "That was rubbish," every time I said anything.  Or did anything.

It was an interesting experience though, and the buy-in was shortened due to people paying up on bets I made when 19 that I would play on the show one day.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Dry em on January 16, 2008, 07:27:53 PM
Of course not, I was routing for you as soon as I got back to the green room. If only one of us could have been drawn in the 7 seat I'm sure we would have taken it down...


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: JaffaCake on January 18, 2008, 07:59:11 AM

Dry em


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Dry em on January 18, 2008, 05:43:16 PM
ffs shouldn't you be in New York?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: snoopy1239 on January 18, 2008, 06:12:27 PM

And Snoops - you've changed your tune since last night when you said, "That was rubbish," every time I said anything.  Or did anything.


That was only because you said in your interview that the viewers would probably say "That was rubbish" and similar comments during hands... ya numpty!  :)

Karl was definitely rubbish though. Clearly should have layed those Aces down.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Card_Shark on January 20, 2008, 02:17:29 AM
I didn't get chance to see the full show but from what i did see i thought that Simon (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=400) Trumper (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=400) was very unlucky heads up with Ian fraser.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Laxie on January 22, 2008, 10:13:04 PM
Just a wee reminder that we have some Blondes on the telly tonight. 


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Dingdell on January 22, 2008, 10:25:47 PM
Just a wee reminder that we have some Blondes on the telly tonight. 

Thewy and Maria.....ohh - should be good!


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Ironside on January 22, 2008, 10:30:18 PM
It was an interesting experience though, and the buy-in was shortened due to people paying up on bets I made when 19 that I would play on the show one day.

intresting bet how would they have gotten paid ?

infact anyone want to have a bet with me that one day (before i die) i will win a WSOP event and apear on LNP lets call it a cool 10 million sterling


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: AlexMartin on January 23, 2008, 06:38:40 AM
I got a tell on Thewy. He breathes when he's about to win a major.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Snatiramas on January 23, 2008, 10:47:11 AM
I got a tell on Thewy. He breathes when he's about to win a major.

Oh and he smiles after he has won a pot


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Karabiner on January 23, 2008, 12:06:03 PM
I fell asleep half way through last night's episode and it was over when I came to.(disputable I know)

But can anyone post a link where i might be able to view it online please ?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Laxie on January 23, 2008, 12:36:49 PM
Same here.  FFS.  Knew about it, was looking forward to it, then CRASH!  Himself woke me when he returned from the pub at 2:20, only to be accused of changing the channel.   rotflmfao

Tried 4oD, but it doesn't have these shows listed.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: UpTheMariners on January 23, 2008, 01:30:06 PM
i'm sure it will be on pokerbay.org soon


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on January 23, 2008, 02:56:13 PM
I fell asleep half way through last night's episode and it was over when I came to.(disputable I know)

But can anyone post a link where i might be able to view it online please ?

Errrr...sorry about that Ralph  ;D


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Longy on January 23, 2008, 03:07:31 PM
I fell asleep half way through last night's episode and it was over when I came to.(disputable I know)

But can anyone post a link where i might be able to view it online please ?

Errrr...sorry about that Ralph  ;D

Well played last night chili, the bit that made me laugh was the bit where you alledgedly described yourself as tight, passive. For some reason i don't think this is true.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on January 23, 2008, 03:15:23 PM
I fell asleep half way through last night's episode and it was over when I came to.(disputable I know)

But can anyone post a link where i might be able to view it online please ?

Errrr...sorry about that Ralph  ;D

Well played last night chili, the bit that made me laugh was the bit where you alledgedly described yourself as tight, passive. For some reason i don't think this is true.

OMG  thank you so much for picking that out (was kinda hoping everyone watching simultaneously blinked and missed that graphic).   Apart from the show being edited too much and crazyly only being 1 hour that was the only bit that riled me.

Of course that is not how I described myself, they asked what my table image was and me being me didn't answer simply like I should have.  I said I was Tight Aggressive but guessed that most blokes SAW me as Weak Passive which is what I don't mind them seeing me as!!

SIGH...........

Anyway, looking forward to the semi because there is no way I can get edited out of that one too much  ;)



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: The_duke on January 23, 2008, 04:34:11 PM
Watched it last night super play ---- especially making that guy (Eddy Schraf I think) lay down his top pair when he was ahead -- superb

All the best for the semi


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: booder on January 23, 2008, 05:22:06 PM
Chilli and semi..........two words that go together perfectly


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: gatso on January 23, 2008, 05:24:44 PM
Chilli and semi..........two words that go together perfectly

either  ;applause; rotflmfao ;tightend; or  :redcard: :redcard: :redcard:



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Redbull on January 23, 2008, 07:09:13 PM
lol Booder.

Nice work Chili - quite a little star! See you Thurs.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on January 23, 2008, 10:40:29 PM
Chilli and semi..........two words that go together perfectly

either  ;applause; rotflmfao ;tightend; or  :redcard: :redcard: :redcard:



Ok ok I'll hand give out all of the above...  Cheers Redbull see you Thurs, quite a little blonde troop heading down tomorrow.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on January 24, 2008, 12:16:25 AM
well played mate,gl in the semi


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Laxie on January 24, 2008, 12:17:35 AM
i'm sure it will be on pokerbay.org soon

Thanks for that.  I've spent all day catching up on the heats.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on February 06, 2008, 12:29:58 AM
 ;bump;  Its on now.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on February 06, 2008, 01:01:09 AM
What a pity. Almost the last 30 mins was just all in showdowns only.I know the structure hasnt helped but this is like watching some bad US show from 2003.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: tikay on February 06, 2008, 01:26:31 AM
Wow, why on earth did they play so fast? I know it's Edited, but with plenty of chips, an all-in with J-9 called by Q-7, what's that about? And the Final Hand, as far as I could see, they were level on Chips, & it all went in with A-9 v A-6! Maybe that's why I'm so crap at Heads-Up! All I saw was biff-baff stuff, not much subtlety or flop play.

The camerawork was excellent, & the Commentary Duo of Mother Hen & Joe (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) Beevers (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) was as good as it gets, both of them very sharp & concise, well done them. I hope they get paired together in more commentary stuff, they made the Show for me.

Only two downsides.

1) Why use Vicky (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) Coren (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) for the various talk overs? I thought that the Shauna Hyatt eye-candy thing was behind us, but no, the dumbing down continues, & it's seemingly obligitary to have a Female involved just for the sake of it. She may as well have commentated the thing properly - she commentates absolutely fine - but the role they gave her demeaned her talent, & demeaned women. Grrrr......

2) I've already said that Simon & Joe commentated just beautifully. But we DO want to hear the table chatter & banter, & via the wonders of an Editing Suite, we could have had both. Instead, we strained to hear the Table banter over the Commentators, with the voices merging over each other. Plain daft.

That apart, excellent viewing, & almost as good as TV Poker gets these days. I'm sorry to say that the Yanks do it better, with the WSOP & WPT coverage etc, but this side of the water, LNP continues to rule. It's not easy, filming "made for TV Poker" I guess, but I much prefer the real thing to artificial studio poker. I guess it's horses for courses, & many enjoy that sort of thing. I could actually enjoy it, if we could just hear the Table Chat properly. I just hope Matchroom take note with their upcoming stuff - we want to hear the players chat - please!


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Chili on February 06, 2008, 02:35:46 AM
My biggest gripe was also why the hell this was only an hour show?  Sadly it obviously was reflected on the limited hands shown, you can't help thinking either about the $5,000 that people/sponsors forked out and maybe had their exit hands shown only!

1) Why use Vicky (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) Coren (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) for the various talk overs? I thought that the Shauna Hyatt eye-candy thing was behind us, but no, the dumbing down continues, & it's seemingly obligitary to have a Female involved just for the sake of it. She may as well have commentated the thing properly - she commentates absolutely fine - but the role they gave her demeaned her talent, & demeaned women. Grrrr......

Tikay, not 100% but pretty sure Vicky was supposed to do ALL the lead commentary but unfortunately her father had died just before the filming of LNP.  She did come in towards the end and recorded the last heat, Semi Final & Final.



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Tragic on February 06, 2008, 02:56:04 AM
First one i've missed this week thank god for poker tube. Enjoy them usually one of the better shows out there. Bit annoying the majority of the show being standard pushbot sit n go poker; the interesting hands are towards the beginning! I guess for mainstream TV the big all in coups work better though. Would definitely have helped to be over 2 hours!


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on February 06, 2008, 02:58:24 AM
Wow, why on earth did they play so fast? I know it's Edited, but with plenty of chips, an all-in with J-9 called by Q-7, what's that about? And the Final Hand, as far as I could see, they were level on Chips, & it all went in with A-9 v A-6! Maybe that's why I'm so crap at Heads-Up! All I saw was biff-baff stuff, not much subtlety or flop play.

The camerawork was excellent, & the Commentary Duo of Mother Hen & Joe (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) Beevers (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) was as good as it gets, both of them very sharp & concise, well done them. I hope they get paired together in more commentary stuff, they made the Show for me.

Only two downsides.

1) Why use Vicky (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) Coren (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) for the various talk overs? I thought that the Shauna Hyatt eye-candy thing was behind us, but no, the dumbing down continues, & it's seemingly obligitary to have a Female involved just for the sake of it. She may as well have commentated the thing properly - she commentates absolutely fine - but the role they gave her demeaned her talent, & demeaned women. Grrrr......

2) I've already said that Simon & Joe commentated just beautifully. But we DO want to hear the table chatter & banter, & via the wonders of an Editing Suite, we could have had both. Instead, we strained to hear the Table banter over the Commentators, with the voices merging over each other. Plain daft.

That apart, excellent viewing, & almost as good as TV Poker gets these days. I'm sorry to say that the Yanks do it better, with the WSOP & WPT coverage etc, but this side of the water, LNP continues to rule. It's not easy, filming "made for TV Poker" I guess, but I much prefer the real thing to artificial studio poker. I guess it's horses for courses, & many enjoy that sort of thing. I could actually enjoy it, if we could just hear the Table Chat properly. I just hope Matchroom take note with their upcoming stuff - we want to hear the players chat - please!

Thats the frustrating thing Tkay, the set, commentators and field were great and I agree that Vicky was very underused but Chilli has explained why. It was the level of poker that let the show down badly, all in after all in, no idea what the chip stacks were, players having 2k swings in chips without the viewer knowing why. The original LNP was the absolute daddy of poker shows but this was v bad in comparison, as I said before it looked like something that was made in the US 5 years ago.

I dont want to get stuck into Presentable because you dont know what they were asked to do re edit and style. The fact that its an hour show is bound to be restrictive but even still this left a lot to be desired for me.









Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: tikay on February 06, 2008, 03:25:43 AM
Wow, why on earth did they play so fast? I know it's Edited, but with plenty of chips, an all-in with J-9 called by Q-7, what's that about? And the Final Hand, as far as I could see, they were level on Chips, & it all went in with A-9 v A-6! Maybe that's why I'm so crap at Heads-Up! All I saw was biff-baff stuff, not much subtlety or flop play.

The camerawork was excellent, & the Commentary Duo of Mother Hen & Joe (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) Beevers (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) was as good as it gets, both of them very sharp & concise, well done them. I hope they get paired together in more commentary stuff, they made the Show for me.

Only two downsides.

1) Why use Vicky (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) Coren (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=449) for the various talk overs? I thought that the Shauna Hyatt eye-candy thing was behind us, but no, the dumbing down continues, & it's seemingly obligitary to have a Female involved just for the sake of it. She may as well have commentated the thing properly - she commentates absolutely fine - but the role they gave her demeaned her talent, & demeaned women. Grrrr......

2) I've already said that Simon & Joe commentated just beautifully. But we DO want to hear the table chatter & banter, & via the wonders of an Editing Suite, we could have had both. Instead, we strained to hear the Table banter over the Commentators, with the voices merging over each other. Plain daft.

That apart, excellent viewing, & almost as good as TV Poker gets these days. I'm sorry to say that the Yanks do it better, with the WSOP & WPT coverage etc, but this side of the water, LNP continues to rule. It's not easy, filming "made for TV Poker" I guess, but I much prefer the real thing to artificial studio poker. I guess it's horses for courses, & many enjoy that sort of thing. I could actually enjoy it, if we could just hear the Table Chat properly. I just hope Matchroom take note with their upcoming stuff - we want to hear the players chat - please!

Thats the frustrating thing Tkay, the set, commentators and field were great and I agree that Vicky was very underused but Chilli has explained why. It was the level of poker that let the show down badly, all in after all in, no idea what the chip stacks were, players having 2k swings in chips without the viewer knowing why. The original LNP was the absolute daddy of poker shows but this was v bad in comparison, as I said before it looked like something that was made in the US 5 years ago.

I dont want to get stuck into Presentable because you dont know what they were asked to do re edit and style. The fact that its an hour show is bound to be restrictive but even still this left a lot to be desired for me.









Well, I hope Vicky is used properly, or not at all, in future Episodes. She's a fine commentator, but giving her 30 seconds of VO made no sense, but perhaps Chili had the answer. Hopefully, we'll hear her Teamed up with either Simon or Joe next time. The doubles work, the treble does not.

Too many all-ins? For poker players, obviously, it goes without saying. But these Shows are made for the general public, not poker players, & they are designed to appeal to them, not us. In that respect, they are stunningly good.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: George2Loose on February 06, 2008, 11:14:00 AM
Have to agree with Tikay the Yanks are leading the way with their TV coverage.

My fave poker show at the moment is poker after dark. They show EVERY hand. Not much commentary at all, all you hear is table talk and banter from the players


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Acidmouse on February 06, 2008, 01:24:51 PM
I agree, this is an excellent show, great commentary let down by the 1hr length. Virtually straight away El blondie is out and someone else is down to £1k after two hands.!?




Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: kenjude on February 06, 2008, 01:53:43 PM
I just hope Matchroom take note with their upcoming stuff - we want to hear the players chat - please!

And we want them to have room to play please Matchroom.

Check out the William (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) Hill (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) TV thingy from 18 months or so ago that was on Sky, with Johnny (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) Lodden (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) and Esfandiari playing some great poker. It created in this viewer a feeling that the players had room to play as well as a sense of changing dynamics through the heat. 8 handed tables I suspect had something to do with that.

The made-for-TV stuff is becoming horribly dull for poker enthusiasts. Too much of each show is wasted by showing the same old playing guides, player profiles and other "colour" stuff. It's what the red button is for!

To be fair, the first episode of the Matchroom 24 hour cash game DIDN'T actually show the official poker hand ranking ladder last week, and what a refreshing change.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: 77dave on February 06, 2008, 05:06:39 PM
How strange to see the retro late night poker section  showing Joe Beevers smoking at the table how times have changed


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: tikay on February 06, 2008, 05:10:54 PM
How strange to see the retro late night poker section  showing Joe (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) Beevers (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=204) smoking at the table how times have changed

Yes, that looked so odd, eh? How fast times change.

Great commentary by Mother Hen & Joe, though, that's my memory. And Joe has aged pretty well, too, he looks younger now then he did then.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: AndrewT on February 06, 2008, 05:38:28 PM
Check out the William (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) Hill (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) TV thingy from 18 months or so ago that was on Sky, with Johnny (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) Lodden (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) and Esfandiari playing some great poker. It created in this viewer a feeling that the players had room to play as well as a sense of changing dynamics through the heat. 8 handed tables I suspect had something to do with that.

It was also the fact that particular tournament had proper deepstacks and long clocks for a sit and go. There was plenty of play. They only filmed one game a day (which may have gone on for hours). Look at the Matchroom Party schedule Tikay posted on another thread - you'll see they play two games a day...

The original LNP was the absolute daddy of poker shows

You do yourself a disservice sir. LNP may have been the daddy, but you raised its greatest son.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Longy on February 06, 2008, 06:19:16 PM
I like the current version of LNP, its alot better than alot of the poker we get on tv including matchroom rubbish with nobodies and celeb rubbish.

My recollection of the original appears to be different to most, it was groundbreaking and influential. Yet the structure was very similar to the current version, no? Just at the time we knew no better, maybe someone like ACES may correct me.

The programme isn't long enough but with it being on terrestrial, schedules are tighter and you simply just can't show all the hands. For continuation purposes you have to show exit hands, which tend to be shoveaments. The Mr Cool vs Padraig hand was a bit of a wow moment but i think Mark had less than 10bb's and shoving j9s there is fine, the call by Padraig was very questionable imo.

The original LNP was the benchmark in Poker TV for a long time, but the now defunct William Hill Grand Prix has superseded it and we have been spoiled by this and are expecting LNP to match it, unlikely with Party Poker involved me thinks.

Any chance we will see WHGP resurrected, please?


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Padraig on February 06, 2008, 07:57:47 PM
THE CALL LOOKED VERY QUESTIONABLE TO ME TOO.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WASN'T HALF AS MUCH FUN.mARCS BET WASN'T  THE FIRST RAISE AS ADVERTISED.iD ALREADY DONE THAT


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: booder on February 06, 2008, 08:02:37 PM
it was a standard Padraig call..........long may your glass be full sir.


 :respect:     




Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Longy on February 06, 2008, 08:50:27 PM
THE CALL LOOKED VERY QUESTIONABLE TO ME TOO.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WASN'T HALF AS MUCH FUN.mARCS BET WASN'T  THE FIRST RAISE AS ADVERTISED.iD ALREADY DONE THAT


Really, wow thats interesting. Thats a cruel bit of editting as it totally distorts what actually happened.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on February 06, 2008, 11:09:53 PM
THE CALL LOOKED VERY QUESTIONABLE TO ME TOO.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WASN'T HALF AS MUCH FUN.mARCS BET WASN'T  THE FIRST RAISE AS ADVERTISED.iD ALREADY DONE THAT


Then its a deffo value call for sure and that was a terrible piece of editing.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: bobby1 on February 06, 2008, 11:17:31 PM
Check out the William (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) Hill (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=960) TV thingy from 18 months or so ago that was on Sky, with Johnny (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) Lodden (http://www.blondepoker.com/blondepedia/blondepedia_view_player.php?player_id=606) and Esfandiari playing some great poker. It created in this viewer a feeling that the players had room to play as well as a sense of changing dynamics through the heat. 8 handed tables I suspect had something to do with that.

It was also the fact that particular tournament had proper deepstacks and long clocks for a sit and go. There was plenty of play. They only filmed one game a day (which may have gone on for hours). Look at the Matchroom Party schedule Tikay posted on another thread - you'll see they play two games a day...

The original LNP was the absolute daddy of poker shows

You do yourself a disservice sir. LNP may have been the daddy, but you raised its greatest son.

thank you v much.

I can understand filming more than one show a day as that was where a lot of the expense went in filming the Will Hill Grand Prix but to have the structure I wanted we estimated between 6-8 hours of play per heat so it had to be one show per day. I think the longest we had was the heat that finished with a heads up between Stu Fox and Martin Wendt in series two that started at around 13.30 and finished at 23.30 with lunch and tea breaks.

I was actually thinking last week how the whole ethos of the tourney was to allow good players time to play good poker. Looking back at what some of the online qualifiers have achieved since the tourney was great too with Steve Jelinek, your good self and Ian Bradley from series 1 and Sami Yousef and Marcus Bebb Jones fom series 2 all having good live results in EPT's, GUKPT and APAT events.



Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: tikay on February 08, 2008, 03:44:47 PM
THE CALL LOOKED VERY QUESTIONABLE TO ME TOO.
WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WASN'T HALF AS MUCH FUN.mARCS BET WASN'T  THE FIRST RAISE AS ADVERTISED.iD ALREADY DONE THAT


Ahh, NOW I realise what happened! But it does make the point, that trying to edit so much action into a 1 hour show does tend to give a distorted image of what really happened.

I do hope you & your very fine lady are fit & well Mr P.


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: AndrewT on February 08, 2008, 04:11:21 PM
Now I see how it works - that TV programme way back was only edited to look as if IrishDenis correctly folded KK pre-flop.

I knew there had to be a better explanation than 'he made a great read'... :)


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: byronkincaid on February 13, 2008, 01:24:52 AM
so party are trying to get some polish customers and turn LNP into a $1 SNG?

big up devilfish for his "bullshit" comment afterwards imo.

I think next year they should double the starting stack, have a max of one internet qualifier per table, no celebs playing their first tournament and make it a longer show otherwise it's hardly worth watching.  :(

I think poker den cash game is great btw


Title: Re: Late Night Poker 2008 Schedule on C4
Post by: Longy on February 13, 2008, 02:36:07 AM
so party are trying to get some polish customers and turn LNP into a $1 SNG?

big up devilfish for his "bullshit" comment afterwards imo.

I think next year they should double the starting stack, have a max of one internet qualifier per table, no celebs playing their first tournament and make it a longer show otherwise it's hardly worth watching.  :(

I think poker den cash game is great btw

Yeah I didn't get it wtf was that Polish women doing on it, of course she was awful we all were when we played our first ever game. So party have paid her in as she is some kind of celeb in Poland, right?

Devilfish comments were IMO, more moaning about the fact he didn't win as he obv would if the structure was good etc. Instead of what makes a spectacle on TV. He would be the major value in one table games online.

The structure does have a skill factor to it and to say otherwise is bs. Yet watching skilled players play this structure, which is somewhere sat between a long turbo internet sng strucure or a short reg internet sng structure. Would be like watching paint dry as playing super tight and then lol shovaments is all in line with standard strat in these tournaments.