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Title: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: AlexMartin on January 16, 2008, 09:56:29 AM
Villain and me have tangled before, he 3bet me pre, i shoved 1010 and he called w AK and hit. Given a minor bit of abuse to the table while playing pretty tight for the past hour. Anyone got a better line that makes more money ling-term? Note its a 3-way pot.



GAME #800988367: Texas Hold'em NL $3.00/$6.00 2008-01-16 02:38:42
Table Fire Island
Seat 1: nikinblinds ($759.35 in chips)
Seat 3: HengHengHeng ($600.00 in chips)
Seat 5: TTR61682902 ($591.00 in chips)
Seat 6: pedrosantosiQ ($600.00 in chips)
Seat 8: owen40 ($600.00 in chips) DEALER
Seat 10: donrevie ($307.96 in chips)
donrevie: Post SB $3.00
nikinblinds : Post BB $6.00

Holecards:
Dealt to nikinblinds [ S4 S5 ]
HengHengHeng: Raise $24.00
FOLD TTR61682902
FOLD pedrosantosiQ
owen40: Call $24.00
FOLD donrevie
nikinblinds : Call $18.00

Flop:
[ S3 S6 S2 ]
nikinblinds : Check
HengHengHeng: Bet $60.00
FOLD owen40
nikinblinds : Call $60.00

Turn:
[ HQ ]
nikinblinds : Bet $75.00
HengHengHeng: Call $75.00

River:
[ HA ]
nikinblinds : Check
HengHengHeng: Bet $120.00
nikinblinds : Allin $600.35
FOLD HengHengHeng

SUMMARY:
Total pot $1,062.35 Rake $3.00
nikinblinds : wins $1,062.35


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: TheChipPrince on January 16, 2008, 10:02:44 AM
Insta min-raise the river to look like an idiot?  But he's put $280 in so far, nearly half his stack, so I really don't think he has anything at all, if he had half a hand he would have checked the river...


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: LeKnave on January 16, 2008, 10:04:16 AM
I like the way you played it, i don't think your getting any more.


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: Snatiramas on January 16, 2008, 10:25:42 AM
You always have a choice.........the main thing is you have done nothing wrong. would he have called a min reraise....... possibly. He might have reraised you....but unlikely. Pretty sure he folds regardless. But what do I know? I don't play cash


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: kinboshi on January 16, 2008, 11:05:51 AM
I like the way you played it, i don't think your getting any more.

I agree.   The push on the river will be called if he's got a hand enough times to make the shove a profitable play. You min-raise and he might call, and then you're wondering if he would call a push.  But then again, maybe a min-raise lets him hang himself.  Oh, I don't know...



Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: Longy on January 16, 2008, 01:27:46 PM
Lol Alex you play so different to me. I would have lead the river personally but i rarely check raise rivers (possible leak?). The rest of the hand is player dependent, donking the flop, check raising the turn all very much based on how a view the opponent.

I think this is one of those you can play numerous different ways and not be wrong.

One thing I will say i think shoving the river is alot better than min raising from what I have seen of your image where you have bluffed in this spot before.


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: boldie on January 16, 2008, 01:37:55 PM
you played it fine.


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2008, 02:00:58 PM
flat calling with 45 suited before the flop oop just spewing chips overtime?


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: NoflopsHomer on January 16, 2008, 02:15:37 PM
Really like the turn lead but you could bet even more there. ($120ish)


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: ACE2M on January 16, 2008, 02:23:06 PM
Really like the turn lead but you could bet even more there. ($120ish)

75 seems perfect, i assume your trying to make it look like your after a cheap card?


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: celtic on January 17, 2008, 12:47:32 AM
Flat call his river bet. Don't be greedy.


Title: Re: So, we flop a straight flush, now how to get paid?
Post by: AlexMartin on January 17, 2008, 11:24:10 AM
Really like the turn lead but you could bet even more there. ($120ish)

75 seems perfect, i assume your trying to make it look like your after a cheap card?

Yeah, "trying to buy a flush draw", hoping villain puts me on bare As. Was thinking about leading but multiway this can shut down my action unless oppo has As/made flush.

WRT river lead Longy, im unsure how much i can get off hands which have been hurt by turn+river big cards. I thought with a river lead he might fold a larger % of hands thanhe would bluff with..... (need to do more analysis on this generally).

Also, i did some PT studies and i deffo dont CR the river enough with big big hands, so have tried to mix it here.

Hand was interesting coz opponent folded.......AQ! FFS!