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Last hand of a £1 £2 pot limit omaha game 5 players the game playin extremely loose.

Utg makes it £9 to go im on the button with  Aspades Ahrt 5h 4s i make it £25 the bb makes it £75 he has been playin wild and is well behind Utg calls £75 very solid and good player so i repop it to £225 both call as i said very loose game lol

Anyway flop comes  Qh Th 7s bb moves in for about £680 now he is a wild gambler so could have anything  utg(solid good player)pushes for £900 as soon as he does its obvious he has a set.

So whats ure thoughts on my action do i call or fold? There is over £2000 in pot so im gettin the right price for sure?

Any thoughts from youse omaha specialists would be greatly appreciated!!

Bit of information i am in for £1200 and have been behind good money all nite and in the last hour just got about £200 in front.
When the hand began i had £1400ish stack.

I'm not an expert but have been playing a fair bit of omaha cash the last few months.  From the looks of things you shouldn't have 5-bet preflop due to stack sizes - as I understand it unless you can get a high percentage (40%ish) of your stack in preflop then re-re-reraising with aces is a mistake as people can call you with a wide range with confiidence you have AAxx.  You have position so just calling the 75 would have been better imo, then play a flop. 

I would think you have correct equity to call postflop, without working it out exactly.

Yes i agree about pre flop i normally would never ever play AAxx as aggressively but i was just thinking id take it down pre flop as it was the last hand and i had a pretty tight image also if the bb folds im pretty sure utg folds too

AA double suited is Fav over any hand preflop but I wouldn't play it this hard..no problem with doing it though as long as you realise you've just told everybody you have Aces double suited (or atleast people who pay attention would know you'd have that)

on the flop my money is in there every time.

good opportunity to try to re open the betting without potting it, just min raise, keeps the pot smaller if they flat call and you can get away from a bad flop or gives you a chance to get enough of your stack in pre flop if re popped.

on that flop the money is going in.

If it was me on the last hand of the night having just got unstuck and a bit ahead i'd have flat called the raise and tried to make a big pot if i hit, but you shouldn't really think like that i suppose.

i may be wrong learning the finer points myself ,depends on table to me, full of maniacs i would just call and see the flop if i hit payday and can still get away from a bad flop,,passive table lots of limpers small re raise,definatley have the odds for a call , debateable how many outs you have though may be only 8 could be 10 .but still good enough to make the call.

Well that was the idea to tell them so they would fold lol

Pre flop I only call the  £50 extra no need to 5 bet.  This helps keep the pot under control, will also mean is someone pots on that board that you have hit then you can peel off another card much cheaper and probably most importantly you can get away from a bad flop.

As played on that flop I'm calling the all in.  I think your right you up against a set.

you are drawing to 8 outs on the turn and then 7 outs on the river (assuming turn doesnt pair). this makes you around 30% shot to win the hand (also factoring in the fact u can hit an ace and pair up) when you are getting over 2-1 on your money. Autocall and take your medicine if you miss.

lol..yeah but that's generally not the way omaha players think (I don't anyways) They think they've got a decent hand 78910/5678 a suited connector or two thrown in something like that..and they think that if you miss the flop and they hit it hard they can pick up a very tasty pot if you can'y lay your aces down. (You'd be amazed how often that happens :) )

edit* btw..if you are up against a set here and it's say top set..he'd better have connecting cards to his pocket queens or he's probably a hold em player who's playing Omaha as someone with pocket queens (+rags) should be folding to your 5 bet on the flop..In my opinion, of course.

i am no expert in omaha so just wondering why you would fold top trips, i understand what you mean about being drawn out on, ,i know i have best hand for certain on the flop,2/1 for my full house,same for the player on a flush draw but they have to hit i dont. ,if i hit its over, if he hits his flush i could still hit my full house,only hand your in trouble against is a wrap flush draw,even then its still only 2/1 for your hand to win.i am very wary when i have nut straight but no flush draw myself  just wonder why i should be as wary with top trips against flush draw,

i think he means folding pre flop.

 i see what you mean,just read fold to 5 bet on the flop , yeah i wouldnt call any raise myself p/f with just queens no draw,

yeah sorry..I should have posted "pre-flop."

Well after some thought i made the call for the £900 the turn came 3c and the river was  3h

So bb fires over Kh  Kd  4h  3s thinkin he was won the pot lol utg unfortunatly fires over Qc Qs xx and as ariston said i took my medicine

I do agree with well chief i should never made the pot so big and i wish i hadt of lol but when the flop comes out and with the money in the pot i just cannot fold