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Title: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: NEVES on January 20, 2008, 12:18:21 AM
 on line MTT, blinds 15/30 2nd level, table 10 handed my stack 3850
ave stack 5100, 270 runners, i have been card dead so far.

UTG limps seats 2,3,4, pass seat 5 limps 6 passes C/O limps i am BB Jh Jc
I raise 180, blinds fold remaining players all call.

FLOP  2h  4d  9c, UTG & seat 5 check C/O bets 180 i raise 800
UTG & seat 5 pass C/O calls, from what i have seen he seems an open
type player stack size around 5500.

TURN  5h he checks i bet the rest of my stack he calls with  Aspades 3s
did i overbet the turn & was there an escape route for me.

   Thanks
      Neves.


         


 


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: byronkincaid on January 20, 2008, 12:31:51 AM
you have position? checking behind on turn would be my standard play


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: TightEnd on January 20, 2008, 12:38:42 AM
views are likely to be a bit skewed by seeing the result first..hint...put the action down and leave the result til later

This early in the tournament, in general no need to go broke with an overpair,

board is unscary as you are unlucky to get called for 620 more by a gutshot on the flop, but when called on the flop my "set" antenna might be up, for this reason I wouldn't expect to go broke here

 


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: Longy on January 20, 2008, 02:39:25 AM
you have position? checking behind on turn would be my standard play

I agree with byron this is a nice spot for a bit of pot control given stacks, check behind the turn. I call most small bet on the river given it is a non-awful card.


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: NEVES on January 21, 2008, 12:30:04 PM
 ;ashamed;  I sure played this one wrong and as mentioned with having
position i should of taken advatage of this.

  Many thanks for all your thoughts.
             
                      Neves.


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: AlexMartin on January 21, 2008, 02:22:44 PM
you have position? checking behind on turn would be my standard play

I agree with byron this is a nice spot for a bit of pot control given stacks, check behind the turn. I call most small bet on the river given it is a non-awful card.

I disagree with the pair of you, no way he gets a free card off me on turn in a tournament. Shove turn all day long, you made the donkey make the mistake on the flop, compound his error by jamming the turn. Neves, you should be happy about how you played this. 


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: Snatiramas on January 21, 2008, 02:33:35 PM
And there in anutshell you have it............on the one hand you do not want to risk your tournament...........on the other you think you are ahead and should push................just depends on the player how you feel etc. there will be times when you walk down one path and times when you walk down another


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: byronkincaid on January 21, 2008, 02:38:20 PM
you have position? checking behind on turn would be my standard play

I agree with byron this is a nice spot for a bit of pot control given stacks, check behind the turn. I call most small bet on the river given it is a non-awful card.

I disagree with the pair of you, no way he gets a free card off me on turn in a tournament. Shove turn all day long, you made the donkey make the mistake on the flop, compound his error by jamming the turn. Neves, you should be happy about how you played this. 

128 BBs, no real draws on flop, 10 handed, dudes playing it like a set, JJ, BUSTO!


Title: Re: SHOULD I OF GONE BROKE ON THIS HAND
Post by: LuckyLloyd on January 21, 2008, 03:02:03 PM
Re - raise on the flop is more than is needed. Make it 650. Check behind the turn.

Going all - in on the turn is not clever. You have shown a lot of strength preflop and on the flop. Your hand range here is often a big pair JJ - AA. As such, it is very unlikely that he can call with worse hands at that point. You have priced him out of all draws; you have taken the very line that gets him to fold worse one - pair hands. As such, there is little value in going all - in.

When you check behind the turn you widen his range for betting the river - or calling a thinish value bet on the end from you if he checks it to you.