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Would like the MTTers views on this please.

Day 2. You are well under average on 21k (average 36k) , blinds 600/1200 100 ante.

Cutoff opens for 4.5k, has been fairly active for the short time you have been playing today.

What range do you need to shove here?

You are in the BB?

A9o+ // A10s+ // 66+ // J10o+ // some mid suited connectors.

how many does the cut off have behind?

assuming just above average
 
A8o+, 55+, KQo and s, maybe KJ

if massive stack

A10s+,77+ 

99+ aq+ with you being on the button right?

Sorry, i am SB and cutoff has 40k.

Mine would be far wider, especially if he has 40k. I may be too aggro tho :(.

I'm with Llyod here except I wouldn't do it with TJo

BTW..thinly disguised "I played the GUKPT" brag ;)

A 10 + & any pair if he's been fairly active. Also 52 or 74 is fine ;)

Probably just shove any hand, most people that play these have no idea about ranges and will show you stuff like AJ and pass, the situation is slightly better if you are on the button and reshove a cutoff opener, the blinds then fold AK lol

Yeah, i actually had a hand but when i was thinking about it after, im jamming nearly every hand in that spot. How sexy a spot stack wise for a resteal.

4 Phoooaaars out of 5?

There is a player yet to act behind us.

I was thinking any 2 cards, but i might do it with just 1 card.

lol.

If you turn this round and you're the CO, and you know that the SB has 20k and knows what he's doing, what does that do to your opening range?

FWIW CO doesnt know me. Opening range if crazy ppl are in the blinds has to be condensed. 99/AJ+.

But personally i dont think he will call with less than 88-AJ anyway, even if he truly knows im at it.

unless hes a huge stack any 2 for me

come on are we really that desperate to get the chips in with any two cards here? ok we haven't got average chips so what? you've still got a playable stack.

yes you do which is why I think you need to have some sort of range and "any two" is not ideal (IMO) but getting more chippies is more easily done when you have 19x the BB than when you have 10x the BB and no fold equity left. ..it would also cost the other guy 50% of his stack to find out if you are indeed taking the piss..and he'll never pay that unless he holds a big hand. (or is an idiot). Just because it' a risky play doesn't mean it's not a good one to make.

so you agree pushing with any two is probably not the best move here.

yes absolutely.

pushing here isnt the best option for me either id rather be pushing blind in any positon to takeing someone on 121 after a raise with any 2, best advice ? wait for the small blind if no one opens shove, if it gets threw do it again and again you HAVE to be the initial raiser tho until you either get a adv stack or get called dont look at your hand tho but make it look like you have for the eagle eyes out there

i have used that apporach many times and eventually you will get called or run into a monstor in that case you just have to get lucky 

We augment our stack by over 25% when this gets through! Which is a lot of the time.  Cant be arsed to pokerstove it but assuming he will fold out huge chunks of his cutoff range this has to be near optimal play whilst image is reasonable. And dont forget sometimes we get called AND STILL WIN.

no doubting that you can shove with a very wide range of hands here.."any two" is a bit much for me..but then again I'm a nit :)

People dont realise how bad the standard in GKUPTs actually is. Its the equivalent of the FA trophy, people have no idea how to read the board let alone assign a range to a particular player, if anyone disagrees with this I will crossbook my action in the next event with you.

The idea of a player restealing here just simply doesnt cross their simple minds so they fold more hands than you would ever believe.

Playable stack for what?

Surely making plays?

for making plays but not taking unnecessary risks like shoving with any two cards.