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Title: How bad is my play?
Post by: scottbufc on January 27, 2008, 12:09:34 AM
Im running so bad over the last 2/3 days guys and this play has seriously annoyed me, would anyone else have played this hand in this way? This is fairly early on and I busted 33 out of 45 in the end.


PokerStars Game #14845792789: Tournament #75249618, $10+$1 Hold'em No Limit - Level II (15/30) - 2008/01/26 - 19:02:36 (ET)
Table '75249618 3' 9-max Seat #5 is the button
Seat 1: ScottBUFC (1560 in chips)
Seat 2: Gamblin' Ape (1405 in chips)
Seat 3: kreighoff (1480 in chips)
Seat 4: HappyMoose 6 (1780 in chips)
Seat 5: AA-Bong-AA (965 in chips)
Seat 6: tombolb (950 in chips)
Seat 7: aline2543 (1560 in chips)
Seat 8: miketothemax (1280 in chips)
Seat 9: arkady2006 (2600 in chips)
tombolb: posts small blind 15
aline2543: posts big blind 30
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to ScottBUFC [Qc As]
miketothemax: raises 60 to 90
arkady2006: folds
ScottBUFC: calls 90
Gamblin' Ape: folds
kreighoff: folds
HappyMoose 6: folds
AA-Bong-AA: folds
tombolb: calls 75
aline2543: calls 60
*** FLOP *** [Th Ad 5h]
tombolb: checks
aline2543: checks
miketothemax: bets 120
ScottBUFC: raises 270 to 390
tombolb: folds
aline2543: folds
miketothemax: raises 800 to 1190 and is all-in
ScottBUFC: calls 800
*** TURN *** [Th Ad 5h] [Jc]
*** RIVER *** [Th Ad 5h Jc] [4h]
*** SHOW DOWN ***
miketothemax: shows [Ks Ac] (a pair of Aces)
ScottBUFC: shows [Qc As] (a pair of Aces - lower kicker)
miketothemax collected 2740 from pot
*** SUMMARY ***
Total pot 2740 | Rake 0
Board [Th Ad 5h Jc 4h]
Seat 1: ScottBUFC showed [Qc As] and lost with a pair of Aces
Seat 2: Gamblin' Ape folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: kreighoff folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 4: HappyMoose 6 folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 5: AA-Bong-AA (button) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 6: tombolb (small blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 7: aline2543 (big blind) folded on the Flop
Seat 8: miketothemax showed [Ks Ac] and won (2740) with a pair of Aces
Seat 9: arkady2006 folded before Flop (didn't bet)


Title: Re: How bad is my play?
Post by: Longy on January 27, 2008, 12:58:24 AM
Erm nasty one.

There is no shame in passing this preflop but I would have probably called like you in an MTT, I pass quickly in sng but thats because of the payout structure.

I actually just call the flop cbet i think this make this most money post flop. As you can induce bluffs on the turn and possibly get away from your hand.

At this buyin i probably bust like you readless as some many donks will felt ace rag here.

For the best analysis leave results out as alot of people will read this and go " zomg its so obv villain has ak or better here" which is not necessarily true.


Title: Re: How bad is my play?
Post by: gatso on January 27, 2008, 01:05:49 AM
I'm prob re-raising preflop to narrow the field. at this early stage in a $10 tourney the 90 bet is always likely to get several callers, especially after you've called it. people are getting priced in or at least think they are to call with pretty much anything. obv it wouldn't have made much difference in this particular hand as you're not losing mr AK anyway. I might pass also but I hate the call.

on the flop your calling 800 to win 1840

if we put him on a very tight range AT+, A5, AA, TT, 55 (ignoring flush draws, straight draws and bluffs) we're getting about 31% equity in the pot which is enough to make the call from a purely pot odds perspective.

do we want to risk out tournament in this position though? that's a different question, I'd like to pass to the RR and look for a better spot here but in reality I prob call and get knocked out.




Title: Re: How bad is my play?
Post by: AlexMartin on January 27, 2008, 10:13:43 AM
I play as hero. Nothing wrong here in the long run.


Title: Re: How bad is my play?
Post by: ACE2M on January 27, 2008, 10:28:25 AM
i call pre flop and on the flop and lay it down to the all in raise (if i had re raised instead of calling the flop), you have position so i like to see if he is still happy with his hand on the turn, a card to bluff might arrive etc I'm prepared to lose a chunk but i really don't want to go broke with it.