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Classic K,K versus A,A

It is an online, 6 seat table, blinds are $0.50/$1 and the table is aggressive with plenty of re-raising going on. The player I end up tangling with has nearly twice my stack. I don’t know much about him other than he has been very active in the last few hands.

From the SB I limp in by mistake with K,K (don't ask), the BB raises $5 (on an aggressive 6 seat table), he is called by UTG and I re-raise to $20. BB insta-pushes all-in, the other player folds and I insta-call.

He has A,A

As it turns out, me limping with KK by mistake wouldn’t have changed anything (...or would it?),  but -

 - was I too hasty here?

Online it is difficult to get a read - but can I narrow down his holdings here to QQ, KK or AA, given the betting patterns? 

Obviously my Kings will only win 20% of the time against the AA, so if I can genuinely put him on only three hands (KK will probably split and I will beat QQ 80% of the time), does this make this a negative EV call or a break even one (or can I factor in a semi-bluff with A,Ks perhaps, or a loose re-raise from a poor player holding 10,10 or J,J and turn it into an imaginative positive EV call(!)) ?

I accept my call was a little hasty but do I need to feel bad about it (which is easy after the event)?

Your thoughts please folks.

To clarify, if I had waited the full 15 seconds, I would have almost certainly called anyway. Just want to know if anyone could fold in this situation?

no my chips are in the middle here.

I need a super massive read that villain is a complete total super nit in a 6 max game to pass kk for 100bb's. This doesn't appear to be the case, so i get it in very quickly and then curse as he flips over aa.

Pretty sure I won't fold KK preflop for 100 Cash BBs in my entire life, least of all in a 6 handed 50/1 game where I already made a 20 BB raise. Insta-calling is the only option, don't let results affect your thinking.


Even if you knew his range was exactly QQ-AA this is still a +EV call because of the money already in the pot.

I'm sure some of the fullring players would snapfold here as a default.

Instacall. You've disguised your hand, he can put on you on a variety of hands. If he's got it, he's got it, but he normally won't.

how many BB have you got. That is the key to this Q. Its ok to fold KK to uber nits sometimes.

I've called in the past with KK against AA all in preflop and I'm sure I'll do it again.

I may have to start playing on Absolute......

Thanks guys for your comments.

In response to Alex's question, I had around 80 big blinds.

easiest call in the world for 80 BB's..unless you've sat at his table all day and have watched him fold every hand uptill now.