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I feel sick at this one. 

The viallin in the hand was a bit of a station I though after the flop I have played this to perfection.  I got allhis money in when I had the nuts but how the feck does he make the call on the end?


Should I have flatted the turn and looked to get away from the danger on the river?  I don't think I want to see any more cards. 


Game #5258760423: Omaha PL ($1/$2) - 2008/02/02 - 18:15:11 (UK)
Table "Developed" Seat 5 is the button.
Seat 1: Beneboy24 ($117.75 in chips)
Seat 2: tigermis ($200 in chips)
Seat 3: Garyg1407 ($250.05 in chips)
Seat 4: Roizlcab ($413.54 in chips)
Seat 5: kortepe ($194 in chips)
Seat 6: GavinK ($312.55 in chips)
GavinK: posts small blind $1
Beneboy24: posts big blind $2
----- HOLE CARDS -----
dealt to Garyg1407 [Th Ad 7s 5d]
Garyg1407: raises to $6
Roizlcab: calls $6
kortepe: calls $6
GavinK: folds
Beneboy24: folds
----- FLOP ----- [Ks 9d 8h]
Garyg1407: checks
Roizlcab: checks
kortepe: bets $21
Garyg1407: calls $21
Roizlcab: calls $21
----- TURN ----- [Ks 9d 8h][6c]
Garyg1407: checks
Roizlcab: bets $84
kortepe: folds
Garyg1407: raises to $223.05 and is all-in
Roizlcab: calls $139.05
----- RIVER ----- [Ks 9d 8h 6c][Kh]
----- SHOW DOWN -----
Garyg1407: shows [Th Ad 7s 5d] (A Straight, Ten high)
Roizlcab: shows [Qc 6d 6h 7d] (A Full House, Sixes full of Kings)
Roizlcab collected $527.10 from Main pot
----- SUMMARY -----
Total pot $530.10 Main pot $527.10 Rake $3
Board [Ks 9d 8h 6c Kh]
Seat 1: Beneboy24 (big blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)
Seat 3: Garyg1407 showed [Th Ad 7s 5d] and lost with A Straight, Ten high
Seat 4: Roizlcab showed [Qc 6d 6h 7d] and won ($527.10) with A Full House, Sixes full of Kings
Seat 5: kortepe (button) folded on the Turn
Seat 6: GavinK (small blind) folded before Flop (didn't bet)

Upto the turn your play is awful here,

You raise pre-flop with rubbish from UTG.
Then you call a pot-sized bet when you are drawing to 4 outs AND even then you aren't drawing to the nuts.
What are you trying to do here?..Get lucky and then scare someone off on the turn? It's awful mate..it just isn't pretty.

I think difgufting is better written in the Elizabethan style.

lol

are you adequately rolled to be playing 1-2 PLO?

The dynamics of the table where that any raise no matter who made it was being called by every player and some nice pots where being built.  I appreciate that post flop the play is a little loose but this was the way the game was, I was trying to build a pot and hopefully hit a really nice flo and try and take down the pot on the flop.  I am open ended granted I am not drawing to the nuts if the J hits but sometimes these risks are worth taking $21 isn't a lot to loose in a speculative hand if I miss the turn its an easy fold. 

Unfortunately for me in a sense - hindsight is great - I hit the turn and I now have the nuts.  The villain in this hand I had earmarked as a calling station and I was happy to be involved in any pot with him, having watched him over a good hour i thought this was the perfect opportunity with a drawing hand.  with the check/call on the flop I am controlling the size of the pot.  Again when I turn the nuts I am happy to check because i think someone will lead here and I am only too happy to jam behind in case one of them are holding something like  T89J or a set I dont expect them to call off there stack with bottom set or indeed the bottom end of a straight draw. 

I think your analysis sometimes boldie is all too text book omaha isn't about playing AAKKds IMO and sometimes dipping your toes in the water with speculative hands is definitely profitable.

I can be ;)

Pre-flop you have a marginal hand out of position, this is not ideal to raise with when "every raise is bound to be called".
If you had a hand like 4567 1 or 2 suited you can raise. A hand like you had does not qualify for me.
For me this is the same as playing a HE cash game where everybody calls pre-flop and raising from UTG with KQ, it's a leak more than anything else in my book.