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According to the general rules/etiquette in poker who would be expected to show their cards first ?

After the river card 2 players are left in.

A) Player A checks, Player B checks.

B) Player A goes all in, Player B calls.

C) Player A bets minimum bet, Player B raises all in, Player A calls.

Would the showdowns be exactly the same for both tournament play and cash games ?

does it really matter?

No not at all, my apologies for posting such an inane question.

A) Clockwise from button
B) Player A
C) Player B

It is from the last aggressive action or if you believe you have the winning hand, table it.

Thank You

Agree with Dik

UNLESS either player A or Player B has the nuts (not very likely in case a) - considered slowroll if you get the other person to show first, THEN show the nuts.

Actually yes it does.....all information is information. If I have the right to see a players hand during a comp I always without exception ask to see it. You have already been given the answer

I'm not really a live player but that's horrible etiquette isn't it?

Perhaps you should read "Elements of Poker"


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Probably right mate but there you go......if it is their turn to show then I want to see

Afraid I'm asking to see a lot of the time too.  Especially if my opponent is an aggressive player.  In my limited experience, I've found that it slows them down a bit in future hands if they're made to show.

down my local they ask after every showdown as routine, people not in the hand ask as well. The funny thing is that i don't think they have any idea what to do with the info anyway, morons.

 rotflmfao rotflmfao

I only ask if it is a hand that I am involved in and it is their turn to show......

A, A, B, Yes.

It really irritates me that some players, well known players too insist on showing last whatever.

Karabiner is spot-on there, & that's why Taximan's question is a good one. It's become quite common of late for players who have won a hand, to wait, at Showdown, until they have seen the other hand(s). This is wrong, & improper. Strictly speaking, the A, A, B sequence is correct. Waiting for oppo to turn over, irrespective, is wrong.

The other variation which amuses me greatly is at Showdown, after a big Pot, both players are reluctant to show first, & the convo goes thus.....

"You got the flush then?"

"No - you got trips"

"No, I got two pair"

"Me too - how big?"

And the rest of the table are sat there, thinking, "FFS JUST TURN YOUR CARDS OVER!"

At the £750 event in Luton a couple of weeks ago I saw a free flop in the big blind with 84. The flop brought two eights, and the river brought the case eight. I bet and the other guy called. I immediately said 'there's the other eight' and turned it over. My opponent had a pained expression on his face and mucked. I started raking in my chips.

'What's your other card?' says one of the other players.

I said 'A four, I think', and turn it over. 'Now you know I don't raise limpers out of the big blind with 84 and I'll probably value bet quads on the river'.

:D

nice

is it bad etiquette, on the river, to call a bet, and sit and do nothing, and say nothing,  until the bettor has revealed his hand? (unless he has shipped it all in and u have called with the nuts)

Absolutely NOT. The bettor should reveal - imnmediately, without the need for all the play-acting. And the caller then turns his hand over.

shoulda said it was an 8 just for "hilarity"

and ty tikay

There is nothing wrong with that - you have to show both cards to take the pot at showdown.

technically right but completely pointless in this instance.

Technically yes, but that is the dealer's job to enforce. I had been pushed the chips - the pot had been awarded. And that wasn't the reason the player was asking.

Or not, one other thing on top of what Tikay said is  annoying earlier, is when people do this. You KNOW the rules, so why are you so afraid to show your other card when you know you will have to anyway. As Andrew said this card makes no difference, but these are the rules to take a pot that this must be shown, so why try and hide it if it makes absolutely no difference?

Pretty good thread.........see the inane rarely is Taximan.......and on the subject of poker etiquette unfortunately I really believe that the game has little or none left, players asking for counts when they know they are going to call or pass before the count has even taken place, the dwell up fold all the time.....I have never slow rolled.......or delayed in showing my hand......if it is their turn to show I expect them to show not ask me a dumbass question.......I call their bet they show.....they call mine I show.........if they do not want to show they must be a Billy methinks

We saw it fairly often yesterday and especially in DC you see it a lot..It's rude. If called I immediatly turn my hand over If I call a bet I expect you to show immediatly. It's rude not to.

likewise boldie, at my local if i'm called on the river i immediately turn my cards, coz i'm f***ing sick of hearing " call.....................and raise you blah blah"  Try explaining string-betting to muppets

Yes, I don't really get this nonsense at showdown...but I think it's got something to do with the struggle for power....like when one player mucks his hand on the flop and the other looks at his cards once more before mucking as well??

Whenever I reach showdown I just, well, showdown. I do this without a moment's thought about my oppo or his "showdown tactics"....and I know instantly whether I win or loose from his reaction.

Lol, when I'm called on the river I either turn my hand over straight away or muck it haha- the second part is done through frustrated BECAUSE YOU ARE A CALLING STATION.

Can I ask - Andrew flips over his 8 and the other guy mucks - does he now have to show the other card?

Some ridic rulings down my local casino - if I call a bet on river and guy insta-mucks do I still need to flip?

The rule is Universal - you MUST show your hand to claim the Pot. All of it. In Omaha, not just the two that count, but all of them.

Of course, there are common-sense rules too, & like the string-betting rule, sometimes common-sense gets a slap in the chops, & someone makes a daft request.

Thanks, as I thought.  Guy tried to muck his hand after the other player had mucked the other day at the Gala and there was a mini-uproar!

not pointless as his other card may be another 8 or another card matching the board making it a foul deck.  Obv never going to happen but i think tht is the point of showing both cards.

Obviously never going to happen? Id be a little more careful!

I once played in a regional final of a large comp and got busted. As i stood at the bar i saw this hand at the table closest.

Board of  Js Jc Tc Ahrt 3d

Player one shows his trips he has  Jd

Player two says hang on a minute and shows his  Jd

A quick flick through the deck reveals the  Jh is there two.

Its a shame someone didnt have pocket jacks and the other 3 hit the board. Could you imagine trying to keep a straight face so you could declare you had the stone cold nut quinteplet jacks!