Title: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Colchester Kev on February 05, 2008, 02:04:47 PM Anyone else been watching this ... Im hooked, but Jane thinks Kemp comes across as a bit patronising.
10/10 from me though. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: kinboshi on February 05, 2008, 02:06:02 PM Pah ... If it was a programme called "Ex Wife in Cold Mud" i would deffo tune in :)
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Dewi_cool on February 05, 2008, 02:06:36 PM I thought he was in Argentina, Phill said ;)
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: bolt pp on February 05, 2008, 02:10:07 PM it's crap, no suspense cos if he got killed you would have read about it in the paper before it aired and why else would you want to watch it if he doesnt die?
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: jizzemm on February 05, 2008, 02:41:15 PM I started watching it last week on sky two, and now have in on the + for future.. I saw episode 2 last night, i thought it was good as well, he is genuinly bricking it which I though was good as he can be a bit patronising, and act the hard man..
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Dingdell on February 05, 2008, 04:55:35 PM I'm loving it - change in that rookie soldier after 6 weeks over there - scary.
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 05, 2008, 06:13:45 PM Whilst it may make interesting TV for some, I never watch programmes like this.
The guy and his crew are a liability and an extra burden on what is already a difficult task for our troops. Agree that it's good for Joe public to see what our guys have to go through but could easily be done by trained military correspondents. Soldiers tend to have a tendency to get attached to these crews (we had a small crew with us in the 1st gulf war) and can be distracted from the task at hand. Still take my hat off to the guy for getting up ithere in the front line though. Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: bobby1 on February 05, 2008, 11:17:43 PM I hope he stays there...
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: action man on February 05, 2008, 11:28:01 PM British troops fighting in Afghanistan and Iraq is a complete joke. They get sent to war on a pack of lies and as soon as the neocons lose power in america this will change. George Bush has been the biggest threat to civilisation since fascism imo. The sooner we dispell our alligence towards america the safer we will be in the uk.
The next president will hopefuly strike a more balanced poilicy in the middle east, and it will make the world a safer place. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: duncthehat on February 05, 2008, 11:42:24 PM Considering the total lack of news coverage by terrestrial stations and sky news come to that in regard to both Afghanistan and Iraq. always just a quick 10 second "Another British soldier was killed today" I commend the programme.
If only to make Joe Public a little more aware of the sacrifices being made. Keep up the good work I say. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 06, 2008, 07:50:32 AM Considering the total lack of news coverage by terrestrial stations and sky news come to that in regard to both Afghanistan and Iraq. always just a quick 10 second "Another British soldier was killed today" I commend the programme. If only to make Joe Public a little more aware of the sacrifices being made. Keep up the good work I say. Whilst it may make interesting TV for some, I never watch programmes like this. The guy and his crew are a liability and an extra burden on what is already a difficult task for our troops. Agree that it's good for Joe public to see what our guys have to go through but could easily be done by trained military correspondents. Soldiers tend to have a tendency to get attached to these crews (we had a small crew with us in the 1st gulf war) and can be distracted from the task at hand. Still take my hat off to the guy for getting up ithere in the front line though. Geo Is there an echo in here?? Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Card_Shark on February 06, 2008, 12:38:25 PM It's one of the best shows on the telly at the moment, second only to shameless.
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Hairydude on February 06, 2008, 12:56:37 PM did any of you see how much that young guy was earning??? take home of a grand a month for dodging bullets aint my idea of a good time
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 06, 2008, 02:25:14 PM did any of you see how much that young guy was earning??? take home of a grand a month for dodging bullets aint my idea of a good time That is his take home pay less charges for Food and Accommodation (whether housed in Barracks or in Army quarters if married.) On Operations the single soldiers don't pay for their food or accommodation, however the married soldiers still pay for their Quarters. They do also receive increments to their pay when on operational duty. Overall the pay aint too bad, however with soldiers now spending more & more time on operational duty I agree that it still isn't enough. Interesting fact: During the 1st Gulf War the Kuwaiti government offered an additional payment to all foriegn troops taking part. Our government, taking the normal (we're British , it's just not cricket) stance. Declared that this was tantamount to our troops being mercenaries and refused. To counter this the Kuwaiti's paid us "water money" to subsidise us for the extra water we had to purchase due to the conditions.............and supplied this water free to us anyway. Geo. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Longy on February 06, 2008, 03:33:41 PM While i can see why the troops wouldn't want some c-list celeb following them round with a camera crew while they are risking their lives. Fair play to Ross Kemp for going out there as its not exactly easy street is it.
I caught the programme the other night and it serves a purpose in highlighting what some of our troops are going through. Getting paid below average wage to risk their lives, living in crap conditions. I must admit to watching it thinking "why the hell are they out there", what purpose does this serve. There is no way i would do what they are doing, you could pay me 10 times their wages and i would be like, nah i like my life, cheers. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: bolt pp on February 06, 2008, 03:50:08 PM I turned over to watch it and saw this young kid talking about how disturbing it was to see and what a tragic waste of life it was so i assumed kemp had been telling him about he's eastenders days.
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 06, 2008, 06:03:42 PM I turned over to watch it and saw this young kid talking about how disturbing it was to see and what a tragic waste of life it was so i assumed kemp had been telling him about he's eastenders days. I liked this Bolty........... rotflmfao While i can see why the troops wouldn't want some c-list celeb following them round with a camera crew while they are risking their lives. Fair play to Ross Kemp for going out there as its not exactly easy street is it. I caught the programme the other night and it serves a purpose in highlighting what some of our troops are going through. Getting paid below average wage to risk their lives, living in crap conditions. I must admit to watching it thinking "why the hell are they out there", what purpose does this serve. There is no way i would do what they are doing, you could pay me 10 times their wages and i would be like, nah i like my life, cheers. Very true M8, and a lot of the troops are asking the same thing. However, even more to their credit that for most of them they just get on with it. Obviously I am a huge supporter of our troops but firmly believe we were taken there this time around by a very deceitful government, who lets face it only agreed to our troops being there to court favour with our "Ally" America (The same country who have killed as many our troops in Iraq & Afghanistan as any other.) Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: The_nun on February 12, 2008, 09:59:03 PM Darren tends to watch this. I have a question, not too sure if it has been raised b4, but, how come he wears a Blue helmet and blue body shield, when the rest of the troupes are in desert wear? Surley his stands out.
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: cdw1111 on February 13, 2008, 12:09:29 AM Just watched the latest episode(4/5) which dealt with the death of three soldiers due to friendly fire,what seems to have happened is that an airstrike by american pilots landed short and was responsible for the deaths, and several other injuries.
What happened next quite surprised me as it showed the lads attitude towards the pilots which i presumed would be hostile,however whilst mourning there fallen comrades its was respect for the job of the usa airforce that was shown and understanding of what a difficult task they undertake everyday.A real appreciation was shown as the troops explained how many times they had been supported and helped by these pilots to get them out of life threatening situations during other missons.Then the troops went on to explain there disdain for the headline grabbing british press which use these incidents for one reason only,that being to sell papers(a real sense of disapointment and hatred of the way it was handled by the journalists). I have always had respect for our armed services and this series has only heightend my appreacition of what these sometimes riduclously young men go through. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 13, 2008, 10:26:19 AM Darren tends to watch this. I have a question, not too sure if it has been raised b4, but, how come he wears a Blue helmet and blue body shield, when the rest of the troupes are in desert wear? Surley his stands out. Hi Mo, All civilian media personnell wear these to identify themselves as non combatants, doesn't always protect them though. A bit like the medical services use the red cross. Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: boldie on February 13, 2008, 02:23:31 PM I assume it's still the case that the RAF pilots (similar to the Dutch ones) can only do so many hours during the day, whereas the Yanks will fly however much is required? (And I take it they still take their "stay awake meds" to erm..stay alert?)
Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Snatiramas on February 13, 2008, 03:08:02 PM My favourite Ross Kemp story
Allegedly some time ago at the height of the Phil and Grant episodes of Enders, Grant was sitting in a pub having a beer. Now our Grant is a bit of a rugby fan and whilst sitting there, into the pub walk various members of the England Rugby team including Dean Richards.......... So the rugby chaps settle down for a beer or two and Grant is sitting opened mouthed until they leave... As Deano leaves he grabs Grant by the face, a cheek in each giant paw and comes out with the classic line Not so tough without your brother are you Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: boldie on February 13, 2008, 04:18:01 PM I assume it's still the case that the RAF pilots (similar to the Dutch ones) can only do so many hours during the day, whereas the Yanks will fly however much is required? (And I take it they still take their "stay awake meds" to erm..stay alert?) too much cloud, not enough cloud, too windy, not windy enough, too much rain, too much sand, too sunny, not sunny enough, enemy have weapons, its dangerous, no hotels nearby... ah yes. At least the Americans understand that when shit needs bombed...shit needs bombed. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: The_nun on February 13, 2008, 04:40:12 PM Darren tends to watch this. I have a question, not too sure if it has been raised b4, but, how come he wears a Blue helmet and blue body shield, when the rest of the troupes are in desert wear? Surley his stands out. Yes I understand that, but what I meant is how much it stands out, I thought the idea of the different uniforms were so the troups could blend in to the surroundings easier , but this must only help the enemy locate them. Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 13, 2008, 05:16:23 PM I assume it's still the case that the RAF pilots (similar to the Dutch ones) can only do so many hours during the day, whereas the Yanks will fly however much is required? (And I take it they still take their "stay awake meds" to erm..stay alert?) too much cloud, not enough cloud, too windy, not windy enough, too much rain, too much sand, too sunny, not sunny enough, enemy have weapons, its dangerous, no hotels nearby... Lol.................So the railways must be run by ex-RAF officers. Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 13, 2008, 05:21:19 PM Darren tends to watch this. I have a question, not too sure if it has been raised b4, but, how come he wears a Blue helmet and blue body shield, when the rest of the troupes are in desert wear? Surley his stands out. Yes I understand that, but what I meant is how much it stands out, I thought the idea of the different uniforms were so the troups could blend in to the surroundings easier , but this must only help the enemy locate them. It's one of the reasons why my 1st post alluded to the increased dangers to our troops when these guys are attached to them. The gear stands out, as does a f%* off big Camera and microphone. It's shouting to the terrorists........."hey come and attack us and get lots of free press whilst you're at it" hate to think how many soldiers were injured or killed by a hasty attack on them created by the presence of TV cameras. Geo Title: Re: Ross Kemp in Afghanistan Post by: Colchester Kev on February 19, 2008, 04:49:12 PM Just watched the last episode of what was an absolutely superb series.. truly brought home the environment and circumstances that these guys have to endure whilst fighting for their country.
Moving, uplifting and powerful all at the same time... the gallows humour of servicemen was also evident, when one of the guys who was injured met up with his comrades on their return to the UK, he said "Im owed money, I couldnt die" then when asked what he remembered about being injured he said " I fell asleep in Afghanstan, and woke up in Birmingham... it took a while to notice any difference" LOL Clear the sideboard Mr Kemp, this series will win an absolute shit load of awards and plaudits... AND RIGHTLY SO !! |