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Has anyone ever heard of Kleeneze or ever tried being a distributor? I saw one of those cards with "WANT TO EARN MORE CASH NOW!" stapled to a Bus Stop time table. I usually just rip them off and shove them in the bin but that day I was in a curious mood. So I phoned up and someone offered to come round my house for an interview. I felt a little strange they were asking to come round my house to interview me, but what the hell I accepted.

The following friday a middle aged couple came round and showed me a DVD about Kleeneze and sold the idea to me really well. It all sounded like easy money, apart from the walking around delivering catalogues bit. Then came the bombshell it is a £170 startup fee and for that you get 200 Catalogues and all then other stuff like order forms, notepads, books, and everything else. I didnt want to say no so I just said I needed some time to think about it and get together the 'initial investment' as they called it.

Has anyone one ever tried it, they have thousands upon thousands of distributors in the UK apparently so the odds of someone who has tried/heard of/or done it must be in my favour. I mean it sounded too good to be true, so knowing my luck it probably is! I just dont want to look like an idiot walking around with a load of magazines earning 1.50 an hour!

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For more info see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyramid_selling also research MLM (mulit level marketing).

As far as I know it isn't a pyramid scheme it's just a straightforward sales job.

But you have to sell enough to cover your costs, and then make a profit.

Have you properly looked at the catalogue and worked out how much of how many different products you'd have to sell to make any money Renegade?

Would you buy them? From a catalogue through your door?

its teh same as avon but for cleaning products rather than cosmetics

its a hard job unless you have lots of friends doing lots of reordering

We have had distributors round our way but have never bought from them. Don't think there is anything wrong with them, but would imagine it can be hard work. Also not sure how you are allocated a patch to sell to or you could end up with a Kleeneze war.  :D

To be honest from growing up ive never seen anyone buy from a catalogue, well my parents anyway. So that had a big effect on the way I look at them, which is rubbish to scribble notes on for your mum to record something on TV before you go out for the evening.

Its not a pyramid scheme they have been going for 82 yrs, so they are by far the biggest and most popular out of them all in the business.

But theres a difference between hard work and smart work right?

Delivering catalogues that cost ~85p to people who may not be at all interested in the products you are trying to flog seems like the exact opposite of smart work to me.

But then I make websites, so I would say that!

another problem nowadays is that so many areas (espically where i live) are putting up no cold calling signs so if you do go door to door you get some heavies chasing you down the street

you do?

My understanding is that Kleeneze have got a pretty decent reputation, and that the products they sell are ok.

However, is it not likely that selling in this way is becoming more difficult (and therefore less profitable) as people buy more stuff off the net?

FORGET IT.. unless you have a vast amount of friends who will buy from you as a favour... then give it up after a couple of months.

Been there and done it..Its VERY time consuming with very little reward but if you are at rock bottom skint then yes you can make a couple of quid.

 

Yeah, I think the internet and the TV home shopping channels are killing off this form of direct selling.

OK thanks for the feedback, at the moment it stands with the only people with anything good to say about Kleeneze are the people trying to recruit me! Now my choices are to put them on the spot when they come and pick up the stuff they left with me to look and ask them 100 questions there. Or just send them an e-mail saying shove it and i'll leave the stuff on the doorstep like they said :D

Save yourself the hassle and send the e-mail.  They're trained to combat any criticism you throw at them with 'false positives'.

OK good point! Will do:)

Ah Kleeneze...... I remember the wife dragging me off to some sort of conference for potential Kleeneze wannabe agents about ten years ago when she wanted to earn some extra cash.

There is definitely a pyramid element to Kleeneze but it's not one of those dodgy schemes where the people at the bottom give all their cash to those at the top.  What happens is you can, once established, recruit new agents of your own and then you earn a cut from all their subsequent sales. Plus if your new agents then recruit their own new agents you'll even get a cut of those sales too!.

So in theory if you establish enough of a chain then you could eventually just stop your own selling and just enjoy your cut of the sales of those below you in the pyramid you've built up.

That's the theory anyway and this conference was for members of one huge pyramid that had built up. It really reminded me of one of those american evangelist gatherings as various members went up on stage to relate their success stories accompanied by whoops and hoolahs from the audience!

Afterwards they came round to recruit newbies and seemed highly disappointed that my wife, who was still interested, only wanted to have a little round of her own without recruiting all her friends and family to become disciples agents of the Kleeneze cause.   ;tightend;

Despite re-itering several times that she'd like to start with a small round, they still kept going on about recruiting others so eventually we just left without joining in any form!   

Had loads of phone calls after that, about one every couple of days or so for a month, asking if we wanted to join up.  The calls only stopped when I got quite stroppy one night and backed it up by saying my wife had converted to the Avon-ite religion and now only prayed at the altar of shower gel and bubble bath !   ;)

They seemed to take it all very seriously but that could just have been this one particular over zealous pyramid I suppose.

Despite this I'd say there's definitely nothing wrong with Kleeneze both as a company and range of products, as they've been around a good while now.

In reality with all these doorstep catalogues such as Kleeneze, Betterware and Avon your success obviously depends primarily on having a decent round of potential customers.  IMHO this is still possible as these companies are still successful, but as others have intimated, it's something that must be becoming a harder sell in the internet age.

It also would definitely help if you, for example, work in a large office where there's many potential customers without any legwork which you can use to back up your residential callbase.

Or, as my wife used to do, get your husband to take an Avon catalogue in for the office girls when he's visiting! Very successful but a touch embarrassing!  ;ashamed;      ;D

Although its not a pyramid scheme it is a bit of a con, you will normaly end up with a garage full of junk that you can't sell and take a financial hit yourself. My sister has tried a few of these make extra money schemes and none of them are ever worth anything like the amount of effort it takes. One job she got paid about 3 pence for every envelope she filled and addressed, only when you send them back any that don't meet their really strict quality control you don't get paid for, so you end up getting very little at all and it takes a lot longer than you think.

What if I used the Internet to my advantage and just sold whats in the magazine on Ebay or something? Thats what they expect you to do at the door right. Maybe I could just give it ago and see if it works. If it doesn't then after ive made my money back I can just pack it in.