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Full Tilt Poker Game #5318812675: Table Salem - $0.15/$0.30 - No Limit Hold'em - 14:01:19 ET - 2008/02/19
Seat 1: BlitzedKrieg ($37.15)
Seat 2: mauricio28 ($29.10)
Seat 3: Benney Wong ($35.70) - Button
Seat 4: mimikry ($45.20)
Seat 5: krookymunster ($63.05)
Seat 6: Roswitta_15 ($29.30) - UTG
Seat 7: peterpyun ($43.75)
Seat 8: pbpbpb ($25.25)
Seat 9: MMPotter ($31.90)
mimikry posts the small blind of $0.15
krookymunster posts the big blind of $0.30
The button is in seat #3
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Benney Wong [td 9s]
Roswitta_15 has 15 seconds left to act
Roswitta_15 raises to $0.90
peterpyun folds
pbpbpb folds
MMPotter folds
BlitzedKrieg folds
mauricio28 calls $0.90
Benney Wong calls $0.90
mimikry folds
krookymunster folds
*** FLOP *** [9h Kd Tc]
mimikry is sitting out
Roswitta_15 has 15 seconds left to act
Roswitta_15 bets $1.80
mimikry has returned
mauricio28 calls $1.80
Benney Wong raises to $7
Roswitta_15 has 15 seconds left to act
mimikry stands up
Roswitta_15 calls $5.20
mauricio28 folds
*** TURN *** [9h Kd Tc] [8d] POT = $18.05 WE HAVE $27.80

Roswitta_15 bets $7.20

Quite early at the table, perhaps only 10-15 hands played so no real read although I've noticed the player does not seem to be a maniac and I have played quite tight so far. The standard raise has been slightly more than 3x bb

Two Questions:

1) Call, push or fold
2) What do you think the turn bet meant (or usually means in this spot) - is it a weak bet to protect their hand (or see what I do) or a bet to reel more of my money into the pot?

Your opinions will be very welcome.

Unless villain is remarkably obtuse, it cant have escaped his notice that you have exhibited a lot of strength on a board that would indicate a made hand of some kind rather than a draw.  This doesn't appear to bother him, so I assume that you're in trouble, but I don't play at these levels maybe bottom 2 is the nuts.

ps dont call raises with t9o.

I think I push here.

There is a good enough chance you are ahead (AA, AK, KQ, QQ), to justify continuing.

It is unlikely he has 2 pr (considering UTG raise) on this board. Therefore you are only behind a set or a straight.
Straight is not highly likely (QJ UTG?)

His turn bet is less than half the pot.
Whilst this could be a monster, it could also be trying to control the pot size with a marginal hand.

I expect to see KK here sometimes, but you will see a fold, or a loose call, often enough IMO.

If you take the view that you are ahead of presumably ak or aa wouldn't it be better to call his turn bet?  You can fold if your 2pr is counterfieted on the river and v-bet or push a blank.  Allin might fold out the hands you beat.  If it doesnt, I think they will still call a push on most rivers.

Yes, you are right, but I just hate calling here.
There are a lot of cards on the end that will either scare me, or stop AA, AK etc... putting any more money in.

I think there are enough hands I beat that prob. call a turn shove.

dont cold call 910o. shove turn.

Thanks for the comments. I actually folded here. Due to him flat calling a decent raise after one caller in a 3-way pot and having no real read I went with my experience of what this bet usually means at this level in this scenario, which is a very strong hand, 99, 1010, QJ, KK.

But afterwards you always have that doubt in your mind that he could have AK or AdKd here and he's just put out a probe bet.

I think calling here would be the worst of the three. I have raised the flop and then only called the turn so it looks like a weak bet from me. If he pushes on the river I could still have him beat but I wouldn't be any wiser than I was after the turn.

But any reasonable turn raise from you puts him allin anyway.  Calling an allin on the river is much the same as raising the turn if he has you beaten.  In my mind, if you think you are probably ahead, the only debate is whether he will fold a hand you beat to a turn raise, but call a bet from you on the river when you show "weakness" on the turn.  There's probably not much in it, with a queen or jack being cards that probably kill your action if ahead and ace, king, eight that kill your hand.

Against an unknown early position raiser you have to assume his range to have hit this board better than you is fairly narrow. This is an easy shove on the turn IMO.

Easy fold...The flat call of your raise on the flop screams set of some sort. Probably 10s.

PS: 10-9os, even on the button, is a very easy fold IMO to an UTG raiser.