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A very nasty broken leg for Eduardo against Brum.  Taylor red-carded for the challenge in the 3rd minute.

Eduardo has been taken straight to hospital, and apparently it's a bad injury.  So bad, that Sky won't show a replay of the incident.

Get well soon fella.

Am watching online - Hleb's reaction said it all.

Gutted for the lad.

From the Guardian commentary.

Apologies for not watching the football for a couple of minutes - it's basically a training session anyway - but I've just seen a picture of Taylor's challenge, and it is completely and utterly disgraceful. Flying through the air studs up, he lunges in halfway up the shin of Eduardo's standing leg. The striker's leg clean snaps at a right angle; no wonder Fabregas was holding his head in his hands the minute he saw it. It's going to be an ethical dilemma for sports editors across the country, is this picture.

I had the game on but missed the challenge. I do want to see it again, I want to be able to make my own mind up if it was a bad challenge or just one of those things. the degree of the leg bend shouldn't come into it - Cisse & Dyer have both had wobbly leg breaks shown - I expect it being shown in future will depend on if it looks career threatening or not.

On a positive note good to see Walcott look like a footballer.

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oh dear. for those that saw it, was it clearly intentional?

Looks very close to the ankle, could make it a bit more complicated.

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YouTube: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KNiWMbH1A5k

Man I've just ate my dinner and its not stayin down too well after seeing that- it looks as if the fib and tib have completely detached from the foot- my thoughts are with him-just hope he can recover and play again cuz I'd imagine he'll be out for some time.

P.S I know it might seem sick but was anybody else annoyed that sky didn't show the pictures-we as viewers should be able to witness it and make our minds up on the tackle- its kinda like a car crash..you dont want to see it but when there is one you cant help but look at it.

http://www.ibrahimkoknar.com/search/?p=1571

Did anyone see this today.  Was pretty sick. 

http://www.ibrahimkoknar.com/search/?p=1571

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that is one of the most horrifc sporting images ever, surely

nasty nasty. Best wishes for Eduardo's recovery

taken the video off you tube as well .... LOL censorship.

Ps. even though the lad is a goon, its still stomach churning, and I hope he recovers.

Just put this up in the lounge, didnt realise it was in here.  Pretty sick!

I didnt think the challenge looked that bad, but to go through his bone like that it must have been a bit strong.

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LOL shocking

Sooner rather than later the football pitch will have to become ruled by our laws.  Such a challenge is deliberate and should be open to criminal prosecution.

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such challenges are?

players jailed for on field events in the last year (ABH I think Barrow vs Bristol Rovers) and other challenges have involved the police

this was a bad challenge but was it pre-meditated? dunno

I agree with Mr End. The challenge had unfortunate consequences for Eduardo (hope he recovers asap) but it is very unlikely that the defender would deliberately go out to try and injure Eduardo.

The premeditated issue is a good point and things move so fast in todays game it will be hard to prove.  However, I find it hard to believe that such a tackle would be made by any player who had any concern of the player he was about tackle.

The stills make it look a helluva lot worse than it actually is.  If you look at stills of most fouls they don't look good.  The tackle was mistimed and it was high but if Eduardo's foot isn't planted then he suffers no more than a sore shin.  There will have been worse tackles made this weekend that didn't result in serious injury to the opponent.  I don't think there was any malice in the tackle and I'm guessing Taylor feels as bad as anyone tonight (Eduardo aside).

I take it you've never played football marcro- I have made, and had challenges made on myself; tackles where I have missed the ball completely and stood on the opposition foot, ankle, lower leg by accident-due to the opposition being too fast for me- its a fast paced game and yes it was terribly wreckless, and like bazzaboy says it looks terrible slowed down but sometimes as a defender when you go for the ball you are late- its part and parcel of the game- I was watchin the game and I didnt think there was much in the challange- I honestly thought eduardo had just been too quick for him and nicked the ball before the challenge came- it was only after I seen fabregas reaction that I thought it must have been a bad one

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I did it a couple of years ago.  (hence the taking up of poker)  It was harsh on him to see that happen, but it does happen and often in the most strange of circumstances.  Look at Alan Smith, that wasnt a bad challenge either.  Didnt agree with Wengers comments, he said that Taylor should never play football again. Bit harsh i thought...  He was late granted, but thats all it was....  Pre medetated no.

I'm still in shock at the fact Arsene Wenger actually saw something on the field of play.

Arsene Wenger disgusts me.  I used to like the Arsenal manager but a few years back along with Tithead Henry I lost a lot of respect for them after the CL final with Barcelona - sour grapes.  He has had some out and out thugs in his Arsenal teams who haven't held back when putting in challenges.

Every week we watch that wreckless f**ker Eboue kick his way through games and dangerously catching opponents yet you never here Whinger say anything then.

Sure it was a bad tackle but I have seen far worse when I think it has perhaps been pre-mediated or at least a form of retaliation.

Arsene has withdrawn his comments according to SSN.

I agree with you on this ;)

Its a contact sport and sometimes tackles will be mistimed, high etc, but in the vast majority of cases there is no serious injury.  Its only in freak cases like today where the point of impact is when Eduardo has just planted his foot and thus his weight is on it studs catch in the turf and something has to give.  Same thing happened with McManus's tackle on Holden at Falkirk a few weeks back and he suffered a double leg break as well.  Both tackles high and late, one gets a red card and the other gets off scot free but thats another matter altogether :).

Oh and Wenger's comments were a disgrace

he was ordered to i should imagine, disgraceful comments imo

Good. how anyone could wish a loss of livelihood on anyone is beyond me

It's quite likely that Taylor has taken Eduardo's livelihood away.


It's very difficult to prove either way whether there was any malice involved here.  My feeling is these tackles are so prevalent now they're far too often dismissed as clumsy.  If you're a 14 stone footballer thundering into a player studs up midway up the players shin, what are you expecting to happen?  It's either malicious or you're not a good enough player to play at that level.

I think there's an element of xenophobia that influences the media's response to incidents that involve Arsenal..you might say that's unreasonable or paranoid as I'm an Arsenal fan, but it would be interesting to see how the media might have responded had this been Emmanuel Eboue breaking Wayne Rooney's leg or Micheal Owens leg.  Someone has already expressed their dislike of Eboue on this thread.   

I hope this acts as a wake up call to players.  Too many of these kinds of tackles have been flying about.  It's not unlucky if you play this way and actually do end someone's career, the truth is you're lucky if you don't.  Far too many players have been on the end of these kinds of tackles this season.  It's a senseless waste of talent.  Eduardo had the potential to be one of the greats, I'm gutted for him.

before anyone comments I must say I haven't yet seen the tackle, just the after effects.

I've played football for 18 years, and these kind of injuries can happen at any time. My best mate at college had a similar thing happen to him, with it being a fair tackle.

the one thing I would like to add is Michael Owen's tackle on Vidic today was just as likely to have a similar result, but as luck would have it, it didnt. I wonder what would be said if he had broken Vidics leg???

What Arsene Wenger said is also totally wrong, but he's just showing that he is human, and he obv cares a great deal about his players.

Thats nonsense.  Arsenal get praised in the media week after week for the free playing football, Whinger is rightly acclaimed as a top class manager who has a great eye for talent.  Arsenal get it in the neck in some cases because their manager never seems to see anything that involves one of his players, and because over the years they have had players who are thugs on the park.
 
It was me who earlier expressed my dislike of Eboue, and I would have the same ill feelings towards anybody who recklessly and dangerously put in sill challenges week after week, wether it be aiming high or going in with studs up. 

I appreciate football is a mans game and its a contact sport, infact I like to watch a game with passion and tackles flying in.  But when these tackles go in they have to be fair, the difference with Eboue is you can see the intent.  The guy is a thug pure and simple.

Having watched the challenge yesterday, I don't think there was any intent on Taylor's part.  He looked genuinley gutted at the time and you could see the dissapointment in his face at the red card.  Further Alex McLeish came out after the game and expressed his opinion that Taylor was in the dressing room distressed at the incident.

I think the tackle was not a good one but also I dont think it was done on purpose.

I'm dont think many if any players go into a tackle to break someones leg. I have caused 2 quite serious injurys whilst playing football and I was gutted both times. Neither time was a foul given against me they were just accidents.

I broke someones leg quite badly, in fact that badly the game was abandoned. The guy spent a few days in hospital. The other time I broke the guys collar bone after we collided and he fell awkwardly. Both times I felt so bad. So I can imagine how bad this guy feels after breaking Eduardo's leg.

What Wenger said I dont agree with but it was just after the game that we shoud have won, we made a mistake at the back then had a bad decision against us for the penalty. On top of that he had to deal with his captain acting like a petulant idiot. I'm sure the guy didnt go out with the intent to put one into Eduardo or anyone else for that matter but I think he did deserve the red card.

he was done by the pace and trickery of eduardo. yes it was a little reckless and maybe he wanted to go in "hard" early in the game let him no his there like plenty of players before him have done. but it wasnt malicious imo.

and to say if a player makes a challenge like that isnt good enough to play at that level is laughable. surely said by someone who has never played football at a decent level, the higher the level the quicker and more skillful the player so no how good a defender is he will still mistime tackles.

football is a  mans game and these tackles happen often unfortunatly for eduardo his foot was planted at the time of taylors impact a hundreth of a second either way at it might not have been so damaging.

it was a clumsy mistimed challenge that had bad consequences, punish all of those as severe as some would like and we wouldnt have many players  left in the league.

Looking at the video clips the tackle didn't look that bad TBH. I don't think it's premeditated in terms of ' I want to 'do' Eduardo here and injure him'. However it is a tackle that is common place in football i.e. 'I'm here putting my foot in and if you get close i'll have you'
As has already been mentioned, and shown in the still photo, is that Eduardo had his foot on the ground and weight bearing.
Classic Tib and Fib break. he will NEVER recover to the same physical condition, or even close.

I hadnt seen this til last night and have to agree it is a very sickening unfortunate injury but I don't think it was a determined attempt to hurt Eduardo. I was really shocked at Wengers interview calling for Taylor to 'never play the game again' and I'm glad he retracted it later, it was quite disturbing to see him stand up to interview when clearly suffering at the time too. He went up in my estimation by holding himself together and realising that he was a little out of order in the interview.

I'm squimish and cant look at page 1!  Bet he was on the morphine sat night, poor b*stard...

indeed...There would have been several managers who would have said a similar thing right after the game and enver rectracted their statements..Well done to him for that.

Players have been getting away with tackles like this for a fair while now and I'm sure that if Eduardo had not been injured this badly the ref would only have given a yellow card. Now we know why tackles like this should always be a straght red. Any studs first challenge should mean you're off the pitch.

I hope Eduardo recovers but it's a very nasty break and i think his career might be over.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/a/arsenal/7263029.stm

Interesting article, where Busst talks about his injury.  Again, not really for the squeamish.

Someone should be able to come up with a technical solution to the problem here.

If there's a magnitude of force that is likely to result in a high risk of a break, there should be a way to translate that into a lateral force across the sole of the boot that causes the sole to give way and therefore releases the leg. You might not be able to prevent pain but it might be possible to reduce the chances of the worst kind of injuries such as this one?

There you go, I've set the challenge. Design a boot that gives the players the grip they want but which has a safety-quick-release feature for the sole. Either the sole comes off or the studs/blades are designed to sheer off if required.

Whoever solves it can keep the profits. I just want to keep talented and entertaining players playing as long as possible. I watch a PeterTaylor managed side so I know there's precious little enough entertainment in the game - players like Eduardo need to be protected.

Guaranteed it'll be something nike and adidas will already be working on but it'll a hard technology to perfect- think how fast some players like aaron lennon and ronaldo turn- there must be so much force on their legs when they twist and turn so to get it not to release then but to release with a leg break would be very hard- but I think it will eventually be something we would see in a decade or 2

Modern medicine eh, Eduardo back on his feet in 6 months and playing again in 9!

good for him..I just hope his recovery goes well as sticking his leg in a cast is just the start of it and many things can go wrong. Good to hear though and I hope he does  a Larsson and comes back better than ever.

I think on his feet and playing should be used as very loose descriptions. Being able to 'run' is one thing. Being able to run pain free and with a necessary degree of movement in the joints is completely different.

If he can walk, he's fortunate. Obviously it would be a shame if he can't play again - for him, and for football in general.  He has the makings of being a top, top striker. 

But here's another thought.

How many Sunday-league players suffer a similar injury and don't receive the immediate expert medical treatment Eduardo did.

Eduardo is not going to go poor if he can't play.  A fella who works in a warehouse breaks his leg badly playing football might struggle to work, and he's not as financially secure as a Premiership player. 

It reminds me of Phil Clarke, who played for Wigan at rugby league.  He was injured in a tackle when playing in Sydney and broke his neck.  The doctors told him that one more impact on his neck, and he'd be paralysed or even worse.  After the injury people would say to him that he was so unlucky to receive the injury and be forced into retirement in his pomp.  He would turn round and say that he's the luckiest man on the planet - he's still able to walk around and enjoy the rest of his life.

It's all about perspective.

The care they get is amazing too.  My mate did his leg playing football in  the place as Shearer.  Big Al was up playing again in 9 months or whatever it was, my mate was told not to do anything like play football, go skiing etc ever again.  Not sure what the difference is though, repaired is repaired surely.

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Wouldn't wish NHS orthopaedic care on anyone.

boldy you try tackling someone straight on without your studs showing at some point whilst executing the challenge. the only way otherwise is to challenge like a ballet dancer!

They could do if they also had rather expensive multi-million pound health insurance policies too.  They're not relying on football to pay the bills.  It's not quite the same.

There is a difference between your studs showing at some point during a challenge and your studs showing continually and at the point of impact during a challenge.

It probably wouldn't have made any difference in this case, but why are footballer's shin pads so small?  They don't cover the whole of the shin, and more substantial shin pads would provide greater protection in general.

I guess it's the same as the reason the boots are so thin and light. 

Its an interesting thought, a little like the thinner,lighter more aerodynamic boots get the more metertasel injuries seem to appear.

the point of impact of the challenge is not easily decifered with the speed and skill of an opponent and the speed in which the 2 players are approaching each other.

the challenge in question was no more than a clumsy mistimed challenge at worse and was administered without malice or intent to injure in my opinion.

the outcome was horrible and ended with a very serious injury to eduardo but other than the 3 match ban he will have to serve for the red card i dont think there should be any other repercussions for taylor regards this incident.

Oh I completely agree. 3 match ban is enough for this one. Like you said, just a clumsy mistimed challenge. I never wanted this guy to stop playing forever. I do want every challenge like this to be punished with a red card though..and not just when someone breaks his legs.

i agree the punishment for this sort of tackle should be the same regardless of the resulting injury but it doesnt always happen.

its like the difference between murder and attempted murder imo both should carry the same sentence though they dont, why should you get off lighter because you were rubbish at trying to kill someone than if you actually killed them? the intent is still there.

Should even be higher for attempted I think...you can't even kill someone FFS..what use could the work possibly have for someone like that?

At Stevenage we had signed a forward from Gateshead called Paul Thompson, he looked outstanding in his first few pre-season games then broke his ankle in the next. Will never forget him sitting pointing at his foot which was turned at a horrible angle.

He came back, but never quite seemed the same again and ended up dropping back down the pyramid to play for Gateshead again. Of course he might not have made it without the injury, but he had shown enough in the games before the injury to appear to have a chance.

Apparently his ankle damage was very similar to Shearer's, so I guess there's an element of fortune in the extent to which your recovery enables you to come back. There may even be some psychological effect - if it's on your mind, or you aren't confident that it's right, then you aren't going to be able to commit 100% when you need to.

And of course the amount of personal care you can get with the physio will have a massive impact on how much strength and confidence you get back. The likes of Shearer and Eduardo had and will have a better chance of a full recovery than those playing at much lower levels.