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Title: New players dividend?
Post by: doubleup on February 23, 2008, 11:13:41 PM

Villain in this hand was raising frequently, so I thought he was likely a bit weak.  I had datamined a few hands on him before I came to the table and he has never played me before as I've just opened my account on fulltilt.  Do I have any fold equity?

Seat 1: Villain 1 ($113.70 in chips) 
Seat 2: Villain 2 ($843.55 in chips)  Sitting Out 
Seat 3: Villain 3 ($203 in chips) -   
Seat 4: Hero ($198 in chips) -   
Seat 5: Villain 4 ($119.45 in chips) -   
Seat 6: Villain 5 ($0 in chips)  Sitting Out 
 
 
PRE-FLOP: 
Hero posts small blind $1
Villain 4 posts big blind $2
Dealt To: Hero  Jh Th
 
FOLD Villain 1
RAISE Villain 3 ($7)
RAISE Hero ($23)
FOLD Villain 4
CALL Villain 3 ($16)
 
 
FLOP:   8s  9h  Kc
Pot: $48 
     
BET Hero ($30)
RAISE Villain 3 ($88)
RAISE Hero ($175) - All in


Title: Re: New players dividend?
Post by: Longy on February 23, 2008, 11:18:46 PM
I doubt you have much but the question is with the overlay in the pot you don't need much, also if he is getting funky with a hand like a9 or even the dream of all dream 67s. Our hand is increased equity.

I would imagine this play is pretty close to neutral equity and is a case of how much you like varience.


Title: Re: New players dividend?
Post by: AlexMartin on February 23, 2008, 11:58:14 PM

Villain in this hand was raising frequently, so I thought he was likely a bit weak.  I had datamined a few hands on him before I came to the table and he has never played me before as I've just opened my account on fulltilt.  Do I have any fold equity?

Seat 1: Villain 1 ($113.70 in chips) 
Seat 2: Villain 2 ($843.55 in chips)  Sitting Out 
Seat 3: Villain 3 ($203 in chips) -   
Seat 4: Hero ($198 in chips) -   
Seat 5: Villain 4 ($119.45 in chips) -   
Seat 6: Villain 5 ($0 in chips)  Sitting Out 
 
 
PRE-FLOP: 
Hero posts small blind $1
Villain 4 posts big blind $2
Dealt To: Hero  Jh Th
 
FOLD Villain 1
RAISE Villain 3 ($7)
RAISE Hero ($23)
FOLD Villain 4
CALL Villain 3 ($16)
 
 
FLOP:   8s  9h  Kc
Pot: $48 
     
BET Hero ($30)
RAISE Villain 3 ($88)
RAISE Hero ($175) - All in


dont think so.


Title: Re: New players dividend?
Post by: doubleup on February 24, 2008, 01:16:12 AM
I suppose he had complete air as he did fold.


Title: Re: New players dividend?
Post by: doubleup on February 24, 2008, 11:27:06 AM
Although with more thought I might have got rid of an AQ worried that he could be just about dead .  The reason for the title of the post is that I've had a couple of folds where I've clearly got more respect than I usually do with the new account.  I think that this might be that a lot of players are defaulting to folding rather than calling when their opponent doesn't have any hud numbers surrounding their avatar.   


Title: Re: New players dividend?
Post by: Longy on February 24, 2008, 12:28:52 PM
Although with more thought I might have got rid of an AQ worried that he could be just about dead .  The reason for the title of the post is that I've had a couple of folds where I've clearly got more respect than I usually do with the new account.  I think that this might be that a lot of players are defaulting to folding rather than calling when their opponent doesn't have any hud numbers surrounding their avatar.   

Yeah unknowns definitely get more respect,its just a default strat when you don't know a player. Interested to see how you go on full tilt, as the games are meant to be tough over there.