Title: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 12:47:18 PM The coverage has now reached the lowest level saturation point I can ever remember.
Todays headlines on TV sports channels, discussion topics and 'special' guest are that some Chelsea players were a bit mad that they didnt get picked on Sunday. So what, that happens at every club every week in every Country. There are 2 page spreads in some dailys under 'Chelsea in crisis' and 'Turmoil at Chelsea' because they lost the cup final. Football stories are now being created out of absolutely nothing and dragged on and on for days just to fill air time and print. Is the general man on the street falling for this rubbish all the time or has the time come to say enough is enough? Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: turny on February 26, 2008, 12:53:28 PM absolute bollocks as always, sensationalising by the press is at an alltime high and the standard of journalism in this country when it comes to football is laughable.
it is time for the man on the street to boycott the continual made up drival printed in numerous tabliods but i cant see it happening because fans love to read about problems for rival teams regardless of the substance of the claim because they want it to be true. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 12:55:10 PM The Premier League is dull as ditchwater, the players are spoilt arrogant wankers and the people who shell out £40 to watch this rubbish every week are idiots.
Sod football. Compare it to the absolutely fantastic day of Six Nations rugby on Saturday and football is just a shower of shit. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 12:58:15 PM I have gone from football odds compiler for years to hating the game, I barely watch a match these days and find the coverage on sports channels laughable. Grand Slam Sundays my arse and the way they just pretend that every match and every goal is the most important yet is driving me away from watching, I wondered if it was the same for others or just me.
Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: TightEnd on February 26, 2008, 12:58:22 PM Agreed. Complete dross most of it
In common with the unfounded speculation to be found in rags like the Sun every day and all the transfer rumours planted by agents in the Sunday papers..which at least now is rather limited by transfer windows It sells though, sells papers and ad space. I listen to 5 live a lot, and find you get far better coverage and some interesting pundit debates (not 6-0-6 which drives me bonkers). There was a very good one last friday night with Claridge and Collymore, both of whom have had serious addiction problems in the past, debunking a lot of the Gazza stuff. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 01:00:14 PM The Premier League is dull as ditchwater, the players are spoilt arrogant wankers and the people who shell out £40 to watch this rubbish every week are idiots. Sod football. Compare it to the absolutely fantastic day of Six Nations rugby on Saturday and football is just a shower of shit. The greatest sportsman of our time broke another long standing record over the weekend by hammering another golfer 8 and 7 in the match play final yet this barelty gets a mention in most sports media. Football football football seems to be the only thing they want to print and you are right, the standard of the game is at its lowest ebb too. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Tonji on February 26, 2008, 01:03:08 PM My interest in football has declined considerably in the past few years. Its become a monster business, feeding a media frenzy, that will eventually implode.
Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Horneris on February 26, 2008, 01:07:18 PM My interest in football as a whole has declined a bit. I dont even watch motd anymore and dont enjoy premiership games anymore.
Im only interested in games Leeds play, and the league Leeds are in. My love for Leeds is everlasting and i have my season ticket and love every game, but my interest in premiership football is dissapearing. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 01:08:35 PM I listen to 5 live a lot, and find you get far better coverage and some interesting pundit debates (not 6-0-6 which drives me bonkers). There was a very good one last friday night with Claridge and Collymore, both of whom have had serious addiction problems in the past, debunking a lot of the Gazza stuff. Claridge and Collymore are both very good actually. Claridge always does the Championship and lower league stuff and this is the true heart of football. The Premier League is away on a different planet, full of foreign mercenaries who is it difficult for fans to connect with. 606 was bad enough when arseholes like Alan Green did it, but Tim Lovejoy has managed to plumb new depths of banality. Actually, Tim Lovejoy is representative of the decline of football. Soccer AM was a golden jewel of sports broadcasting - born of a love for the game, yet treating it with the irreverence which something that is, at heart, only a game, should deserve. But then Lovejoy, like football, lost his way. Got too big for his boots and forgot where he came from. Now he's a idiot's sounding board, taking calls from retards. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 01:10:15 PM Most people I speak to say the same. Could the reason that the coverage is getting so bad be that the people that rely on football to be watched and read about are now scared that 'their' product is going to the wall and feel the need to push every little thing down our throats.
As for Lovejoy, you forgot cooking programmes on BBC on Sunday mornings Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 01:10:32 PM The Premier League is dull as ditchwater, the players are spoilt arrogant wankers and the people who shell out £40 to watch this rubbish every week are idiots. Sod football. Compare it to the absolutely fantastic day of Six Nations rugby on Saturday and football is just a shower of shit. The greatest sportsman of our time broke another long standing record over the weekend by hammering another golfer 8 and 7 in the match play final yet this barelty gets a mention in most sports media. Football football football seems to be the only thing they want to print and you are right, the standard of the game is at its lowest ebb too. Yeah, I read on the BBC site yesterday that Tiger was planning to go unbeaten throughout 2008, and I thought he was referring to just matchplay events. But no, Tiger has won six tournaments in a row and thinks he can win everything he enters for the rest of the year. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: TightEnd on February 26, 2008, 01:13:01 PM I enjoy Championship football..enjoy possibly the wrong word..and lower league football. Also heavily involved in a non-league club.
The premiership? simply not interested in the hype though back in the day when my club was involved the novelty was exciting Sky account for much of my malaise (its overdone, and over-analysed), as do the people that run the clubs themselves Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: TightEnd on February 26, 2008, 01:14:30 PM Most people I speak to say the same. Could the reason that the coverage is getting so bad be that the people that rely on football to be watched and read about are now scared that 'their' product is going to the wall and feel the need to push every little thing down our throats. As for Lovejoy, you forgot cooking programmes on BBC on Sunday mornings but Helen Chamberlain, who supports Torquay with a passion and makes great effort to get to games, I put in a different category Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 01:14:48 PM As for Lovejoy, you forgot cooking programmes on BBC on Sunday mornings The great thing about that cooking show is that you know Lovejoy spends every second yearning to be back on the sofa with Helen on a Saturday morning. He knows his career is going to shit. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: boldie on February 26, 2008, 01:15:50 PM The Premier League is dull as ditchwater, the players are spoilt arrogant wankers and the people who shell out £40 to watch this rubbish every week are idiots. Sod football. Compare it to the absolutely fantastic day of Six Nations rugby on Saturday and football is just a shower of shit. The greatest sportsman of our time broke another long standing record over the weekend by hammering another golfer 8 and 7 in the match play final yet this barelty gets a mention in most sports media. Football football football seems to be the only thing they want to print and you are right, the standard of the game is at its lowest ebb too. Yeah, I read on the BBC site yesterday that Tiger was planning to go unbeaten throughout 2008, and I thought he was referring to just matchplay events. But no, Tiger has won six tournaments in a row and thinks he can win everything he enters for the rest of the year. Tiger is truly asthonishing at the moment...it's unreal how good he runs. I quite like to watch Arsenal and ManU play when they are playing well (Spurs can be entertaining as well) all other premier league footie I do not watch..it's boring and over hyped. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 01:16:42 PM Tiger is truly asthonishing at the moment...it's unreal how good he runs. Tiger Woods = runhotgolftard. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: TightEnd on February 26, 2008, 01:22:29 PM also, and I speak as someone who's club has benefitted from them and then badly used them. Neverends.
I hate parachute payments from the Premier League c£30m over two seasons its a small step from there to cancelling relegation all together makes a mockery of relegation, and guarantees that most will be fighting to get back up eg Watford and WBA in the two seasons after Derby have already spent, in advance, their parachute payment on new players in the Jan transfer window Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Graham C on February 26, 2008, 01:35:38 PM I see Frank Lampard agrees that football is on the decline, can't even get a youth player to clean his boots these days and no one swoons when they walk past him in the corridors.
Man it must suck, just him, his £120k per week and a jar of dubbin There's far too much money in top flight football. Sky have created a monster. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 01:36:54 PM I'd been noticing that my heart wasn't really in football, but it all became clear to me watching the England v Croatia game a few months ago. As Croatia went into the lead, it suddenly struck me that I couldn't care less whether England qualified or not - I'd totally lost interest. It was the culmination of too many crap England performances, too many uber-boring Chelsea v Liverpool v Man Utd v Arsenal GrandSlamSundayRichardKeyssaysthisismoreimporantthanthemoonlanding shitfests and too many wanker players behaving like wankers.
Rugby and cricket are where it's at now for me - over the last few years the Six Nations has just become the best thing ever, and a day at a Test Match will always transcend mere sport for me. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Bongo on February 26, 2008, 01:41:11 PM Derby have already spent, in advance, their parachute payment on new players in the Jan transfer window And the manager wants to make wholesale changes in the off season because they are even worse than before rotflmfao Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: dan on February 26, 2008, 04:11:07 PM Premiership football can be overhyped but to say it is at it lowest ebb is just at the other end of the spectrum. AndrewT said that people who pay £40 per week to watch it are idiot, well I must be a complete tool to pay nearly £900 for my season ticket.
I love premiership football, I am rocking off it this season. Being top of the league 3 points clear with 11 games left after nobody gave us a chance at the start is great. I hate it if I have to miss games. We have got arguably the best league in the world with some of the best players why not enjoy it. I know there is probably not as much coverage as their should be of the lower leagues, or even other sports but that should not devalue the Premiership. Tiger Woods as somebody mentioned earlier is possibly the greatest sportsman ever, and is dominating the sport. If a football team dominated a league the way he dominates golf everybody would say its boring that only 1 team ever wins anything. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2008, 04:26:57 PM Tiger Woods as somebody mentioned earlier is possibly the greatest sportsman ever, and is dominating the sport. Mmmm, an interesting point. I think a separate thread is required. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: boldie on February 26, 2008, 04:31:32 PM Premiership football can be overhyped but to say it is at it lowest ebb is just at the other end of the spectrum. AndrewT said that people who pay £40 per week to watch it are idiot, well I must be a complete tool to pay nearly £900 for my season ticket. I love premiership football, I am rocking off it this season. Being top of the league 3 points clear with 11 games left after nobody gave us a chance at the start is great. I hate it if I have to miss games. We have got arguably the best league in the world with some of the best players why not enjoy it. I know there is probably not as much coverage as their should be of the lower leagues, or even other sports but that should not devalue the Premiership. Tiger Woods as somebody mentioned earlier is possibly the greatest sportsman ever, and is dominating the sport. If a football team dominated a league the way he dominates golf everybody would say its boring that only 1 team ever wins anything. Ah but you are a lucky sod because you support Arsenal. Arsenal and ManU are the only two teams consistently playing footie you wouldn't mind watching. they, when on form, are playing the beautiful game..most other teams don't...and that's why the Premiership sucks these days. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: steeveg on February 26, 2008, 04:41:05 PM i think the cost of buying all the football shirts started to make people think about how clubs try to get every penny they can from there supporters, yeah its a business, but i think its become a vicious circle for premier league clubs, you have to pay top wages to get the best players so you have to increase revenue, more revenue ,then the bigger clubs can afford to pay more for top players, so the transfer market prices go up, same thing happened in american football so they introduced the salary cap, it would be very hard to make it work in football as it is global, but its an idea which should be looked at, footballers today look at themselves as entertainers, sky has made them look like pop stars nowadays, no player is worth the money they earn but if the clubs dont pay it they dont get success, till they work out a way to stop the crazy wages and transfer market the prices will just go up and up till the bubble bursts,
Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: AndrewT on February 26, 2008, 04:45:36 PM Premiership football can be overhyped but to say it is at it lowest ebb is just at the other end of the spectrum. AndrewT said that people who pay £40 per week to watch it are idiot, well I must be a complete tool to pay nearly £900 for my season ticket. I love premiership football, I am rocking off it this season. Being top of the league 3 points clear with 11 games left after nobody gave us a chance at the start is great. I hate it if I have to miss games. We have got arguably the best league in the world with some of the best players why not enjoy it. Yeah but, as Boldie said, if you're supporting one of the big boys, you would say that. At the risk of playing a broken record, compare it to the Six Nations. I remember back in the Five Nations days when this was a snoozefest - whoever won the game between England and France would win the whole thing, and the other games were just fat men running into each other. Now, two thirds of the teams have a genuine chance of winning it at the start of every championship. There's no nastiness, the games are exciting, the players aren't all hateful twats and it's all free to view on the telly. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: boldie on February 26, 2008, 04:48:38 PM Premiership football can be overhyped but to say it is at it lowest ebb is just at the other end of the spectrum. AndrewT said that people who pay £40 per week to watch it are idiot, well I must be a complete tool to pay nearly £900 for my season ticket. I love premiership football, I am rocking off it this season. Being top of the league 3 points clear with 11 games left after nobody gave us a chance at the start is great. I hate it if I have to miss games. We have got arguably the best league in the world with some of the best players why not enjoy it. Yeah but, as Boldie said, if you're supporting one of the big boys, you would say that. At the risk of playing a broken record, compare it to the Six Nations. I remember back in the Five Nations days when this was a snoozefest - whoever won the game between England and France would win the whole thing, and the other games were just fat men running into each other. Now, two thirds of the teams have a genuine chance of winning it at the start of every championship. There's no nastiness, the games are exciting, the players aren't all hateful twats and it's all free to view on the telly. I remember some rugby player (Think it was Dalallio (sp?)) saying the rugby player refer to the Premierleague as the "Andrex Premier league"..when asked why he said it was cus "All the players are soft and over paid"..I reckon he's not far off. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2008, 04:52:21 PM Premiership football can be overhyped but to say it is at it lowest ebb is just at the other end of the spectrum. AndrewT said that people who pay £40 per week to watch it are idiot, well I must be a complete tool to pay nearly £900 for my season ticket. I love premiership football, I am rocking off it this season. Being top of the league 3 points clear with 11 games left after nobody gave us a chance at the start is great. I hate it if I have to miss games. We have got arguably the best league in the world with some of the best players why not enjoy it. Yeah but, as Boldie said, if you're supporting one of the big boys, you would say that. At the risk of playing a broken record, compare it to the Six Nations. I remember back in the Five Nations days when this was a snoozefest - whoever won the game between England and France would win the whole thing, and the other games were just fat men running into each other. Now, two thirds of the teams have a genuine chance of winning it at the start of every championship. There's no nastiness, the games are exciting, the players aren't all hateful twats and it's all free to view on the telly. I remember some rugby player (Think it was Dalallio (sp?)) saying the rugby player refer to the Premierleague as the "Andrex Premier league"..when asked why he said it was cus "All the players are soft and over paid"..I reckon he's not far off. 'Twas him. I heard him say it on Top Gear. He's a big girl anyway. I saw him crying when the national anthem was being played. I know it's a bad song, but come on man - pull yourself together! Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Jedwick on February 26, 2008, 05:43:57 PM I dont understand why people always think that Rugby is a gentlemans game, they kick, spit, punch, stamp, rake... but because they call the ref "sir" that makes them gentlemen! I play rugby for my local team and love playing the game but cant usually bring myself to watching it as its becoming a kick and run game.
I think i understand where some of the comments regarding premiership football is coming from, I used to be able to watch any team play any team but bar the top 7 or 8 the other teams are quite shocking, I have turned to supporting my local team and for the past few years have been to pretty much every game, home and away, Rugby Town are in the southern premier but i enjoy the games and know quite a lot of the first team aswel, I do my part and work the bar or food bar on match days and feel like im helping the club in every way. it used to be i would miss a game if their was a big match on tele but i wouldnt miss a game for anything now! Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: kinboshi on February 26, 2008, 05:45:48 PM I dont understand why people always think that Rugby is a gentlemans game, they kick, spit, punch, stamp, rake... but because they call the ref "sir" that makes them gentlemen! I play rugby for my local team and love playing the game but cant usually bring myself to watching it as its becoming a kick and run game. That's why I prefer rugby league as a spectator sport. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Pelham Boy on February 26, 2008, 06:57:29 PM Fantastic thread.
I've saying most of everyone comments for a number of years now,and things have got much worse.The premier league have got everything they deserve (a league of predictable,uncompetitive and largely boring crap football) where the majority are too scared to lose rather than trying to win.It's only a matter of time before a team gets promotion and doesn't win a single game. The championship is also suffering IMO,most teams have a number of sixth rate foreigners,but at least it's competitive,it's impossible to pick who will finish top 3 even now. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 08:04:02 PM Another reason for the decline is the constant bias towards the big clubs but it isn't just the media that are guilty of this. On Saturday a Liverpool player clipped a Boro player in the face, the Boro player clipped him back and got sent off, the Liverpool player got nothing.
The media barely mentioned this, if it had been Stevie G that had been sent off in those circumstance the ref would now be reffing the Scunthorpe game this weekend instead. So Boro have today appealed against the sending off and rightly pointed to the fact that the same incident 1 second earlier had gone unpunished, what did they get?? The player had his ban extended by another game as the appeal board called the appeal frivolous. The media and it seems football officials are scared stiff of upsetting the big teams, they need their co operation. Look how bare the BBC coverage is because managers Like Fergie refuse to give interviews after previous skirmishes. Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: Geo the Sarge on February 26, 2008, 08:27:23 PM I listen to 5 live a lot, and find you get far better coverage and some interesting pundit debates (not 6-0-6 which drives me bonkers). There was a very good one last friday night with Claridge and Collymore, both of whom have had serious addiction problems in the past, debunking a lot of the Gazza stuff. Claridge and Collymore are both very good actually. Claridge always does the Championship and lower league stuff and this is the true heart of football. The Premier League is away on a different planet, full of foreign mercenaries who is it difficult for fans to connect with. 606 was bad enough when arseholes like Alan Green did it, but Tim Lovejoy has managed to plumb new depths of banality. Actually, Tim Lovejoy is representative of the decline of football. Soccer AM was a golden jewel of sports broadcasting - born of a love for the game, yet treating it with the irreverence which something that is, at heart, only a game, should deserve. But then Lovejoy, like football, lost his way. Got too big for his boots and forgot where he came from. Now he's a idiot's sounding board, taking calls from retards. Sorry to keep quoting you Andrew however.................. :goodpost: Title: Re: Is football now treated as Opium for the masses? Post by: bobby1 on February 26, 2008, 09:29:13 PM Just in case anyone missed it when Tighty put it up, this is a great parody of Sky sports football reporting style.
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=MusyO7J2inM |