Title: Ouch Post by: SuffolkPunch on November 01, 2005, 08:20:23 AM Well Dublin EPT was going fine until I ran into a spot of bother. Had been keeping just about average chips for about five hours when the following happend:
Blinds up to 300 plus ante, three callers, I have Kc Qc in mid position and call too. Flop comes: Ks Qs 9h Goodie - top two pair. I raise to 2,000, everyone folds apart from the bloke on the button (sitting next to Mr Colclough). He eyes up my chips (about 7,500 left) and announces he will put me all in. A long hard think follows - does he have trips, is he on flush or straight draw? Is he just trying to bully me? But I call and he shows Ah Ad. So I'm ahead - and look set to double up to more than 20,000, which would have been a great position at that stage of the tournie. The turn comes and it's nothing - a 6d I seem to recall - and I'm now well ahead. Alas! The river comes a 9d and he draws second pair - and I'm out. Mr Colclough remarks he has seen me play a couple of times and I have been unlucky. My nemesis sheepishly shakes my hand while raking up the mountain of chips. The thing is, was I unlucky or did I play this incorrectly? Title: Re: Ouch Post by: Tractor on November 01, 2005, 08:51:03 AM Goodie - top two pair. I raise to 2,000, everyone folds apart from the bloke on the button (sitting next to Mr Colclough). He eyes up my chips (about 7,500 left) and announces he will put me all in. A long hard think follows - does he have trips, is he on flush or straight draw? Is he just trying to bully me? But I call and he shows Ah Ad. Not sure, personally I probably wouldnt have played your hand in that position BUT if there was no raise preflop i could put him 10 J, so he may already have the straight in which means you are drawing thin. I think it basically goes on your gut feeling at this point depending on how the player has been playing before this happened. Cant really add much more. Title: Re: Ouch Post by: TightEnd on November 01, 2005, 09:10:50 AM What exactly did you put him on when he set you all in? did he do it quickly? confidently? how had he played so far?
aside from that you are losing to J 10, KK, QQ, 99 or you are ahead of Ace spades and another spade or another draw. To be frank, I couldn't put him on Aces on the button if he's already got three limpers in front of him and he's only limped himself. The beauty of finding Aces there is he can raise and look as if he's trying to buy the pot off the limpers. Raise and he's got a disguised hand. He played it terribly in my opinion. Post flop he stuck you all in and you could be sitting on trips or J10!! Personally, I think I give it the full acting treatment and pass, extremely reluctantly Title: Re: Ouch Post by: M3boy on November 01, 2005, 09:21:18 AM Definately one that comes down to gut feeling.
I personally would of laid it down (probably) Title: Re: Ouch Post by: Ginger on November 01, 2005, 09:43:53 AM My opinion (for what it's worth)
Like Tighty said, it's hard to put him on aces with no raise, and I doubt he put you on 2 pair. He could of just as easily had K9 or Q9 from the way he played it, hitting 2 lower pair himself. I personally would of been more concerned that he possibly had JT. I think most people would of raised preflop if holding KK or QQ, so I wouldn't of been overly concerned about trips (with the exception being 99, not always going to raise) So that brings you back to gut feeling again, on first impression I read the hand and thought very unlucky (as it was, the board pairing) and I would of done the same call. But on thinking through the hand I like to think I would of folded, Gut feeling would have nagged at me (even though wrongly) telling me he had either JT or 99. Just my 2 pence worth, and that's what you get for cheap advise lol. Title: Re: Ouch Post by: Royal Flush on November 01, 2005, 01:59:13 PM 150-300, you have less than 10k, don't see how you can pass.
Unlcuky. Title: Re: Ouch Post by: Nem on November 01, 2005, 02:06:31 PM 150-300, you have less than 10k, don't see how you can pass. Unlcuky. I agree. Title: Re: Ouch Post by: The Camel on November 03, 2005, 01:07:19 AM My chips would have been in the middle so quickly to call there would have been scorch marks on the table.
In my mind there is no hand that could have been beating you which could play the pot the way he did. Having said that I would have fallen off my seat when he showed aces. Could he have possibly have played them any worse? Title: Re: Ouch Post by: M3boy on November 03, 2005, 02:33:14 AM Definately one that comes down to gut feeling. I personally would of laid it down (probably) I must learn to read the question properly, wasnt aware of how many chips there were. >:? Title: Re: Ouch Post by: doubleup on November 03, 2005, 06:25:39 AM What a looney your opponent was - not only did he play badly preflop - he also goes all-in on the flop with all those limpers still to act after him - hmmm how to play AA - I'll give everyone a cheap draw at me then I'll put all my chips up for grabs to anyone who's made a hand!!
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